James Maker Statement: Is Morrissey a racist?


Statement:

Is Morrissey a racist?

The answer is an emphatic 'no'. In the forty years that I have known Morrissey, I have never once heard a racist epithet pass his lips. The terms 'racist', 'fascist', and 'Islamophobe' are so freely used nowadays against those whose opinions and worldview differs from our own, that they have lost their power and meaning.
Also, there is a worrying trend on the Left that, ironically, echoes fascism in its intolerance of reasoned debate. One is not only 'wrong' in expressing a different opinion, but one is also now 'evil'. I believe that calling Morrissey a racist is unjustifiable and wrong.
However, if you want to run out of the house wearing a garment ill-suited to the elements in order to throw Viva Hate into the Manchester Ship Canal, then that is, of course, your right.

In supporting Brexit, this does not make Morrissey an immigrant-hating 'Little Englander' who lives only to reverse the metric system and bring back steam trains. The truth is, there are myriad reasons why people voted to leave the EU. One of them is a mistrust of Brussels technocracy where unelected representatives make decisions that are arguably a matter for sovereignty.
Patriotism and Nationalism are very distinct: the former is characterised by an affection for one's country; the second is a more extreme and unforgiving form of allegiance to one's homeland. Morrissey might be guilty of patriotism, but not of nationalism.

Opposing Sharia Law in the UK, or FGM, or institutionalised misogyny—which is (trigger warning) widespread in the developing world—is an appropriate Western response borne of democracy and the development of civil liberties. It is neither racist nor Islamophobic.
After all, if I were to move to the United Arab Emirates in search of a better life, I wouldn't reasonably expect to be able to build a hot dog stand empire, serving pork products whilst dressed in a gender-neutral miniskirt.

To oppose halal slaughter is to oppose slaughter with additional cruelty. The zakat tax payable for Halal certification is used by Islamic organisations to fund mosques and religious schools. Such is the many-tentacled nature of zakat, it is difficult to determine whether it is also being used to crowdfund Islamist extremism. There is a growing concern in some quarters that it might be.

Hitler was indeed 'Left-wing' in the sense of incorporating the word 'socialist' into the party's name to cynically draw voters away from communism and towards populist nationalism dressed as socialism. Hence, 'Hitler was Left-wing.' Morrissey was not suggesting that Hitler and Yvette Cooper (for example) share the same political ideals. The fact is, Left-wing totalitarianism looks little different to Right-wing authoritarianism — if you're being oppressed, it's the same experience.

Again, is Morrissey a racist?
My answer is an emphatic 'no'.

James Maker.
26.04.18

Regards,
FWD.
 
but in general we don't kill each other by video taping their beheading and sending it to their family.
That's OK then.

Of course, the big point you're missing is how disappointed Muslim children all over the world are going to be if their birthday parties suddenly have to comply with some new anti-beheading/anti-videoing regulation. Bloody health and safety.
 
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Of course he's right, just as Morrissey was right in everything he said. As a former liberal like Morrissey, I have abandoned the left and their pearl-clutching, fake outrage, free speech-hating, virtue-signaling, Sharia-promoting lunacy. This movement deserves to be taken out back and beaten senselessly, as their non-existent parents should have done long ago.

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I don't take issue with anything she says here.

Derek, did you support the BNP? What about the National Front? What about Pegida? And Tommy Robinson? I assume, from your extensive research, you are familiar with them and their links to Anne Marie Waters?
 
The answer is no, he's in fact an arsonist. He set fire to all our hearts for decades.
 
Derek, did you support the BNP? What about the National Front? What about Pegida? And Tommy Robinson? I assume, from your extensive research, you are familiar with them and their links to Anne Marie Waters?

No.
No.
No (unaware).
Tommy Robinson is OK as far as I know.
No: as mentioned above, I have not done extensive research in to AMW or her party.
 
You know what the most pathetic aspect is out of all of this?

That, if Morrissey had come up with a statement in favor of vegan Jeremy Corbyn (did you know he's a vegan, by the way), or the Green Party, or something more traditionally "on the left", the waves of demented Morrissey obsessives would 100% agree with him!

The same weasels without a personality or an identity whose brain is so weak that they have to agree with whatever their favourite singer with Aspergers says. Those who are now bending over backwards to argue that For Britain is not far right while, at the same time, sticking up for the most far right and Islamophobic pap spouted out by their idol.

Guaranteed.

Bungalow
 
Isn't it touching to see the demented Morrisseylettes protest that For Britain or Anne Marie Waters never said that they are "far right" or "fascist" or, even worse, "racist"?

That's literally Year 2 Politics. Peppa Pig does more sophisticated analyses.

I have news for you, Morrisseylettes: about 0,0001% of racists of fascists would openly say that they're racist or fascist. And that puny percentage shrinks even more considerably if in front of a camera, the media, or online.

The BNP and its leaders NEVER said all of the above. Like, not once.

And yet, a quick glance at a handful of For Britain candidates (that is, their social network activity) for the forthcoming elections is a stomach churning collection of nasty, violent, racist, anti semitic shit.

Now, back to jumping in the muddy puddles.

Bungalow
 
Tommy Robinson is OK as far as I know.

The multi convicted thug? The one with the criminal record the lenght of the Bible (or shall I say the Q'ran?).
The leader maximo of the EDL thugs, pictured on dozens of occasions doing nazi salutes during their vioent gatherings up and down English towns?

You've got to raise your standards a bit, mate.
 
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If the left wants to get serious about "racism," whatever that entails now, they need to operationally define it and come up with a specific plan to counteract it, ideally one that will appeal to the majority of people. Right now, all this "boy who cried wolf" rhetoric is totally useless.

Surely a person can not be "left" and still find groupuscules like For Britain, EDL or the BNP revolting?
I am aware that the little Peppa Pig world of Morrissey is all black and white and simplified to shit, but luckily the overwhelming majority of this country can spot a far right thug and its manipulative leaders from a million miles. And that doesn't mean that they're "loony lefties", "virtue signallers", "snowflakes", "corbynites" or any of those deep deep deep meaningful cliches.

Bungalow
 
In London most acid attacks are by Bangladeshis or blacks. No ifs, no buts. Highest proportion happens in Tower Hamlets/Newham area in the East End. Fact. Outside of London, it might be another story. But I'm talking about London - and so was Morrissey. If you cannot accept this fact then perhaps it is because of ideological reasons. Perhaps you see Asians and blacks as your little pets. Innocent little victim children you can save perhaps. Come to London. The reality here will be very blunt for you. The kind of people you would like to save would show you a few violent surprises and your patronising middle-class ideology would be dripping from your head into the drain.

No, it's not a fact.
I know it's convenient for your warped view of the world, but it isn't true.
People have posted and reposted the figures.
And what if I told you that "all acid attacks in Liverpool are white"? (Liverpool is my city, btw).
So what? What are we talking about? Why? What good does it do?

As for bangladeshis or "blacks", who are the "blacks"? People born and bread in the UK? Somali immigrants? Third generation Jamaicans? Migrants from Nigeria? African Americans?
"The blacks"???
No wonder you repost tweets from forgotten deputy BNP leaders?
But, no, you're not a racist.

PS Sweet that a supposed Londoner calls a Scouse "patronising middle class". Result. I'll cherish that.

Bungalow
 
Good. These groups are defined as moderate Muslims. Unfortunately they're in very small supply. Agenda? What would that be? The preservation of western culture? Oh No, that's racist right? Any other culture can lawfully celebrate their way of life. You seriously think Islam can coexist with the west? You're either wilfully ignorant or you're just indifferent. Turning a blind eye to child marragies, sexism and homophobia cause those people are ethnic. You're not right in the head.

Touching to see the same weasels wailing that the "Left is intolerant" and the "Left is totalitarian" seconds later calling those who disagree with them "LOONIE" and, in this case, "not right in the head".

You couldn't make it up.

Bungalow
 
Try reading the article before you post it. You say there is an "increasing number of acid attacks on Asian people being carried out by the far right", but the article says differently.

Here's what the article says:

"At this stage, however, the only acid attack being officially treated as a hate crime by police is the one on Ms Khan and Mr Muhktar.

Many of the other incidents seem to bear the hallmarks of particularly vicious robberies, rather than hate crimes."


One. One acid attack is being treated as a hate crime. One is an 'increasing number' is it? That's as "thick" as anything Morrissey said (who, I stated previously, should have said "the majority of" rather than "all" and then he would have been correct). Meanwhile, and not to change the subject, but 1,400 white English girls were groomed and raped by Pakistani gangs in Rotherham (along with more in other towns and cities across Britain), which certainly count as hate crimes, and are far more appalling than Morrissey being a bit off the mark with his acid attack statistics.

And you choose to focus on the one documented white-on-Asian acid attack hate crime out of the hundreds of attacks that are now occurring yearly in London, which is more than slightly odd. It seems for whatever reason you care about some of the attacks more than others.

Also, the article only states that the attack is 'alleged' to be a hate crime, based on some of the old Facebook posts of the perpetrator. Other than that, the journalist's sources are random Twitter users.

Also from the article:

"In March, a Freedom of Information request to the Metropolitan Police suggested Newham was the London borough with the most recorded acid attacks, with 398 incidents between 2011 and 2016.

Tower Hamlets had the third highest number of acid attacks, with 84 incidents recorded between 2011 and 2016."


I wonder why that would be? I'm sure the fact that Newham is 16% white British and Tower Hamlets is 31% white British is purely coincidental to the fact that there are acid attacks on a regular basis, and there's no correlation between these attacks and the high levels of racial diversity there.
I'm positive 95% white Kent and 95%+ white Cumbria are experiencing an unexplained exponential surge in acid attacks too, right? Oh wait, they aren't, and there probably is some correlation in what I just wrote as to why. Logic dictates as much.

As for your comment about the whiteness of the BBC rapists and molesters, I wouldn't have an issue with that being brought up, because it's factual - Savile, Glitter, Stuart Hall, Rolf, et al. Just like I wouldn't have a problem with it being brought up that approximately 65%-70% of the Hollywood sexual deviants whose behaviour sparked the #MeToo movement, are Jewish.

The BBC was 95% white during the 1970s, as was Britain, so it's unsurprising that the majority of the abusers, and their victims, were white. Unchecked power, a culture of unchallenged misogyny, the ushering in of 60s 'sexual liberation' and hedonism which quickly began crossing all kinds of boundaries (the 'groupie' phenomenon for example, which in some cases gave abusers easy access to underage girls to prey upon), are a few of the more relevant factors, however.

When Savile was at large, I don't think "racial hate crime" was one of his primary motivations for doing what he did, he was simply f***ed up in all different kinds of ways, and he was shielded by the establishment who allowed him to get away with it all for so long.

Hardly a white thing, see Harvey Weinstein (Jewish), Bill Cosby (black), etc for people who because of their fame and power were shielded from public exposure and arrest for decades. The only constant theme is not the race of the perpetrators, but the race of the victims: white women and girls are (in the west) overwhelmingly, disproportionately, the ones who suffer the most from these sorts of crimes.

Correct me if I'm wrong (without bringing up historical periods when the opposite was true), but I don't believe white men are raping brown and black female immigrants anywhere near to the same extent that brown and black male immigrants are raping and abusing white women. Probably a hard fact for you to stomach, but it's relevant (and more widespread than the one hate crime attack you linked to), and you can make of it what you will. But if that one documented hate crime acid attack makes you feel outraged then surely this will too.

Have you taken speed or something?
Literally spraying drivel like a possessed hosepipe.
You're seriously saying that "brown and black immigrants are raping white women", just like that?
Seriously? Ignoring the thosands of sexual assaults perpetrated by white men every year?
People like you are dangerous.

What are you trying to achieve by racially profiling crimes? What's this obsession with colour that you seem to have?

To what purpose?

What would you say to the assertion that a mental proportion of white US citizens have had the tendency, in reent years, of slaughtering scores of fellow Americans? Would you also conclude that white US citizens have a tendency to murderous crime?

It would obviously be a nonsensical statement, wouldn't it?

Or that "white people" in my city, Liverpool, make the overwhelming majority of perpetrators of knife crime?
What's the point in making a big deal out of the ethnicity of it?

I'm not saying it should be swept under the carpet, but for that to become the be all and end all of every single Morrissey interview (and the weasel who parrot his statements) smells toxic to say the least.

Bungalow
 
Yet another person who knows him who says he isn’t racist. If people didn’t believe Joyce though who surely isn’t his friend now then I dont think they want to or ever will believe. Also for all that people say fans are stretching logic haters are also going to extremes to justify there own beliefs. Joyce wants his old band to keep selling or wants to make amends in hopes of a reunion and James just signs his name. The Hispanic people in his band or the brown people as some here call them don’t wanna bite the hand that feeds


Racist White people will hire Mexicans to mow they’re lawn and to trim their hedges but they’ll still show up and go to anti-immigration rallies and show support and spout they’re racist views. In a racists point of view it’s ok if minorities do these menial jobs because no one else wants to do them, to them it’s substandard job for substandard people. So Morrissey has Tobias in his band and he’s Hispanic , well guess what he’s still the hired help. Just like white people in the past who had mammys in they’re homes watching they’re children and cleaning their homes but they still didn’t like blacks and, they tolerated it because it was hired help.
 
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