James Maker Statement: Is Morrissey a racist?

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By Famous when dead on Apr 26, 2018 at 4:15 PM
  1. Famous when dead

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    Statement:

    Is Morrissey a racist?

    The answer is an emphatic 'no'. In the forty years that I have known Morrissey, I have never once heard a racist epithet pass his lips. The terms 'racist', 'fascist', and 'Islamophobe' are so freely used nowadays against those whose opinions and worldview differs from our own, that they have lost their power and meaning.
    Also, there is a worrying trend on the Left that, ironically, echoes fascism in its intolerance of reasoned debate. One is not only 'wrong' in expressing a different opinion, but one is also now 'evil'. I believe that calling Morrissey a racist is unjustifiable and wrong.
    However, if you want to run out of the house wearing a garment ill-suited to the elements in order to throw Viva Hate into the Manchester Ship Canal, then that is, of course, your right.

    In supporting Brexit, this does not make Morrissey an immigrant-hating 'Little Englander' who lives only to reverse the metric system and bring back steam trains. The truth is, there are myriad reasons why people voted to leave the EU. One of them is a mistrust of Brussels technocracy where unelected representatives make decisions that are arguably a matter for sovereignty.
    Patriotism and Nationalism are very distinct: the former is characterised by an affection for one's country; the second is a more extreme and unforgiving form of allegiance to one's homeland. Morrissey might be guilty of patriotism, but not of nationalism.

    Opposing Sharia Law in the UK, or FGM, or institutionalised misogyny—which is (trigger warning) widespread in the developing world—is an appropriate Western response borne of democracy and the development of civil liberties. It is neither racist nor Islamophobic.
    After all, if I were to move to the United Arab Emirates in search of a better life, I wouldn't reasonably expect to be able to build a hot dog stand empire, serving pork products whilst dressed in a gender-neutral miniskirt.

    To oppose halal slaughter is to oppose slaughter with additional cruelty. The zakat tax payable for Halal certification is used by Islamic organisations to fund mosques and religious schools. Such is the many-tentacled nature of zakat, it is difficult to determine whether it is also being used to crowdfund Islamist extremism. There is a growing concern in some quarters that it might be.

    Hitler was indeed 'Left-wing' in the sense of incorporating the word 'socialist' into the party's name to cynically draw voters away from communism and towards populist nationalism dressed as socialism. Hence, 'Hitler was Left-wing.' Morrissey was not suggesting that Hitler and Yvette Cooper (for example) share the same political ideals. The fact is, Left-wing totalitarianism looks little different to Right-wing authoritarianism — if you're being oppressed, it's the same experience.

    Again, is Morrissey a racist?
    My answer is an emphatic 'no'.

    James Maker.
    26.04.18

    Regards,
    FWD.
     
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    1. javert
      javert
      Beat me once more, you literally are on fire aha.
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    2. Charlie Cheswick
      Charlie Cheswick
      Oh do fuck off with this shite Morrissey, sorry 'James Maker'.

      Well done for posting an identical article though James just with paragraphs.

      Fucking nutjobs.
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    3. pandaproducts
      pandaproducts
      Yes, he is.
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    4. Amy
      Amy
      This no-mark again, using Morrissey to get a bit of attention. Moz' career hit the skids but this bloke never got started!
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    5. Uncleskinny
      Uncleskinny
      We've seen this before - Moz gets his mates to ride in and attempt to change the narrative 180 degrees to what is actually happening. Saying he supports For Britain for their stance on Halal is supremely diversionary. With his history of comments, we all know why he supports For Britain. And it ain't their stance on Halal.

      And yet again, this fucking bollocks about Hitler being Left Wing - DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH.

      https://www.indy100.com/article/naz...macists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history...socialist-even-if-he-did-stash-champagne.html

      Why is it that racists never, ever have the balls to admit that they are? It's always something else, isn't it? There's always another reason.

      This statement reeks of "James, will you put your name to this?" - he's done it before.

      And it also reeks of "Please BMG, don't cancel my contract"

      Finally - the history of Morrissey's comments do not tally with what is being suggested above. At the end of the day, as always, it's all about the money. It always was, and it still is now. When venues start to refuse to put him on, when his punters leave in their droves, when record shops can't shift his goods, when record companies think more than twice about making a commitment - it's all about the money, and this whole saga is beginning to hit Morrissey where it hurts - his bank balance. And getting your mates to say 'No, he's not a racist' - too late, mate, too late.
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    6. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Genuine question

      Why are you on this site still? Moz isn't gonna change and neither are the psycho fans who back him like Rifke who literally said she was glad kids died in the Manchester bombing
    7. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Interesting to read some comments posted underneath this statement by significant ex's:

      Kristeen Young: "Yes, it’s round (like the earth, controversially). The extreme left meets the extreme right and then they have a fascism party. It’s starts late at night and then goes all day every day."

      Peter Hogg: "All I can say in response is a supportive NO in total agreement with you JM"
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    8. Ugly Devil
      Ugly Devil
      Sorry skins, you're wrong. Morrissey has brown people playing and composing music in his band. With the exception of intercourse, there's nothing more intimate than writing music with someone. Try a different angle matey. Your record is crooked.
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    9. Uncleskinny
      Uncleskinny
      One more thing - if it was so self-evident that Morrissey is not racist, why even bother with this statement? You wouldn't need to do it. It's all about the money, as always.
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    10. pandaproducts
      pandaproducts
      Ah yes, the classic 'I have black friends tho'.

      Having band mates of the ethnicity you hate doesn't mean you don't harbor ill-will towards the ethnicity. A racist can simply rationalize it by saying that he's one of the good ones.
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    11. Charlie Cheswick
      Charlie Cheswick
      Hands up who on here gets called racist?

      It never happens to me personally.

      I reckon if getting called a racist happens a lot to you you should probably try to stop being such a cunt.
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    12. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Yet another person who knows him who says he isn’t racist. If people didn’t believe Joyce though who surely isn’t his friend now then I dont think they want to or ever will believe. Also for all that people say fans are stretching logic haters are also going to extremes to justify there own beliefs. Joyce wants his old band to keep selling or wants to make amends in hopes of a reunion and James just signs his name. The Hispanic people in his band or the brown people as some here call them don’t wanna bite the hand that feeds
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    13. Bluebirds
      Bluebirds
      No mention of the free For Britain political party broadcast I note.

      Feck off.

      For your info Moz records have popped up on my playlists since the Fuhrer (sic) erupted and the latest controversy has not actually prevented me enjoying the songs.

      So I'll carry on listening to them. Doubt I'll buy any again though. But I never buy records anymore anyway.
      Cheers anyway James
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    14. Ugly Devil
      Ugly Devil
      Well, simply because irrational idiots like you are like an echo chamber regurgitating the same nonsense over and over again. At some point some one is gonna have to shut you down. James sounds like a very articulate and intelligent man. Where's you and your cronies sound like raving maniacs foaming at the jowls.
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    15. Charlie Cheswick
      Charlie Cheswick
      One other thing, people who say Hitler was left wing are fucking idiots.

      I imagine the same person who started saying that started saying the Earth is flat and only did it to find out how many stupid people there are in the world.
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    16. Anonymous
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      sorry but as a certified tolerater/ally of BROWN people, I declare that the mexicans no longer count as BROWN people. now do run along you racist shite as it's obvious what you really think of the BROWNS.
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    17. reelfountain
      reelfountain
      James Maker sounds like a very clever and reasonable person. Completely unbrainwashed by modern social media hysteria. The problem on this site is that so many people want Morrissey to be a racist. To make themselves feel better for being secret bigots, misogynists, racists themselves perhaps? I don't know. Perhaps it's because they once passionately loved Morrissey, but somewhere along the line, what with life's personal misfortunes, that love turned to hate. It's quite sad.
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    18. Anonymous
      Anonymous
      What a fantastic piece by James, sums up many realistic people's thoughts exactly I bet.

      Is morrissey racist, no
      Is Uncle Skinny a plonker, yes
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    19. 001
      001
      Because some fuckheads, also known as journashits, journacunts and journalists are saying that he is. Which he isn't.

      Anyway, back to the music! This is epic!!!




      @ All you journacunts



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