What you said stacks up as far as Democrats and the EU goes but you seem oblivious that their opponents are EXACTLY the same.
You talk about buying democracy but didn't seem to notice how a multi-Billionaire swept into the White House or how a concerted media campaign over many years bought about Brexit. As much as right wingers like to romanticize about how sheer public disquiet bought about both events the fact is that it was a tonne of cash and just as much bullshit.
I'm not putting a case for the other side now, just that this notion of a groundswell of the working classes having enough is utter horse shit unless the point that you're making is that propaganda is a superb tool to use on them. The working classes have been both convinced to think a certain way and been made to believe their time has come for doing so. It's genius really.
The working classes may have had enough but let's be honest, most haven't got the first f***ing clue what the causes are or how to address them, they know their lot is shitty but don't understand why because it's complex. That's why you get so much propaganda about scroungers and immigrants and saying Mexicans are rapists because people who don't think things through have got a mythical beast to focus on instead of having their eyes on the prize.
It's like don't vote for the Democrats they're evil, look raping Mexicans, vote for us, we've got a multi billionaire non-politician heading up our multi billion dollar power haven which will f*** you just the same.
No, Charlie, I’m saying many of the politicians of those old legacy parties are now essentially the same. You couldn’t put a cigarette paper between Nicky Morgan and Yvette Cooper on a range of issues, for example, despite them sitting almost exactly opposite each other in the Chamber. Parliament now, I think more than at any time I can remember, has a surfeit of those who didn’t seek political power to effect change, but to wield political power. The job was the prize, not what could be done with the powers that came with that job.
Now clearly Corbyn has thrown a spanner in the works to a degree, but he is surely the greatest example of tortoise on a fence post syndrome many of us will ever see. He is there because Ed Miliband is an imbecile. Corbyn still isn’t backed by the PLP. They loathe him almost to a man. He and McDonnell and Abbott and Milne have captured the castle, but the pitchforks are still being waved about outside.
If you look at what Cameron did to reposition the Tories between 2005 and 2010, he moved them to the New Labour centre, where they remain. He even called himself the heir to Blair. His error was to grant the Brexit referendum, but he didn’t do that to destroy UKIP or cement Britain’s membership once and for all. He did it because he thought he’d win.
As for Trump, on February 1st, 2017 the Washington Post reported Clinton had raised $1.4 billion dollars over the election cycle to Trump’s $957.6 million.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ampaign-finance/??noredirect=on&noredirect=on
I’m still mystified by the idea that for some reason it isn’t in Trump’s job description to look after the interests of the American people. You can argue whether he does or doesn’t, and first in November and then 2020 the people will deliver their verdict, but the simple fact it is an intrinsic part of the position he holds is surely not up for debate.
Putin, for all his faults, gets it...
As for the people being too stupid to understand, well, that’s half a century of comprehensive schooling for you. Bring back the Grammars, I say.
Finally, being a Morrissey site it would be rude not mention him, I suppose. I posted this the other day, and have been listening to it repeatedly this week.
He told us, didn’t he? We were just too daft to grasp it, or perhaps the time was wrong. Either way fourteen years ago he made his position clear, and we thought it was just a great single from a great album. Listening now it might just be one of the simplest, but most important things, he’s ever written. It’s a call to arms. A “Dancing In The Streets” for the 21st Century.
Anyway, I’ve finished my coffee and my morning mooch, and I shall see you later. Have fun. I enjoy our chats, Charlie. We disagree on pretty much everything, but maintain a mutual respect.
You’re a star. You’re wrong, but you’re a star... ;-)
