"Surely how I feel is not nothing?" by Morrissey - statement at true-to-you.net

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16 April 2013

Surely how I feel is not nothing?

by Morrissey, 15 april 2013

I have listened and I have seen a lack of truth that we had dared not believe existed in modern Britain.

Margaret Thatcher has left the order of the world, and she is not to blame for the reports of her own death - reports so dangerously biased and full of intolerant menace that we now wonder how we can possibly believe anything that has ever been recorded in British history books. The coverage by the British media of Thatcher's death has been exclusively absorbed in Thatcher's canonization to such a censorial degree that we suddenly see the modern British establishment as an uncivilized entity of delusion, giving the cold shoulder to truth, and offering indescribable disgust to anyone unimpressed by Thatcher. Even to contest Thatcher's worth is termed "anarchist", and this source of insanity - intolerant of debate, is spearheaded by the BBC reporting not on how things actually are on British streets, but on how they would prefer things to be.

For those of us who survived despite Thatcherism, and who recall Thatcher as a living hell, The Daily Mail and The Guardian have a steadfast message for us: You are nothing. Our thoughts are further burdened by the taunting extravagance of Thatcher's funeral; the ceremonial lavish, the military salute, stripping Thatcher's victims of everything, and rubbing salt in wounds with teasing relish. It is all happening against us.

In thought, we have killed Thatcher off a million times, but now that we have the reality of her death, the Metropolitan Police have set up new laws against us, and within paragraphs of law, we are not allowed to register our feelings so that anyone might overhear them. Echoes of Libya? Echoes of any Middle Eastern patch whose troubles are thought too uncivilized for a democratic England where chivalrous respect is afforded to "freedom", and where we are all servile to "democracy."

It is, of course, The Big Lie. The fact that there will be such an enormous police presence at Thatcher's funeral is evidence that her name is synonymous with trouble - a trouble she brought on herself. No one wished for it, or brought it to her, yet she created her subtle form of anarchy nonetheless. BBC News will scantily report on anti-Thatcher demonstrations as if those taking part aren't real people. Lordly scorn is shown towards North Korea and Syria, and any distant country ruled by tyrannical means, yet the British government employs similar dictatorship tactics in order to protect their own arrogant interests.

There will be no search for true wisdom this week, as the BBC gleefully report how Ding Dong the witch is dead "failed to reach number 1", and they repeat the word "failed" four times within the brief report, and a shivering sovereign darkness clouds England - such identifications known only in China. There will be no report as to how "the British people have succeeded in downloading Ding dong the witch is dead to number 2", and we are engulfed in Third Reich maneuvers as BBC Radio assume the role of sensible adult, finger-wagging at that naughty public who must not be allowed to hear the song that they have elected to number 2. By banning Ding dong the witch is dead (and only allowing four seconds of a song is, in fact, a ban) the BBC are effectively admitting that the witch in question can only possibly be Margaret Thatcher (and not Margaret Hamilton), even though Thatcher isn't mentioned in the song, which is in fact a harmless, children's song written over 70 years ago. Whilst the BBC tut-tut-tutted a polite disapproval at the Russian government for sending a "feminist punk" band to prison for recording an anti-government song, they engage in identical intolerance against Ding dong the witch is dead without a second's hesitation.

Thatcher's funeral will be paid for by the public - who have not been asked if they object to paying, yet the public will be barred from attending. In their place, the cast are symbols of withering - as old as their prejudices, adroit at hiding Thatcher's disasters. Ancestry and posterity, trimmed with pageantry, will block out anyone with a gripe.

David Cameron will cling to Thatcher as she clung to the Malvinas, each in their last-ditch efforts to survive obscurity. Cameron achieves his own conclusions without any regard for the appalling social record of The Thatcher Destroyer - the protestors outside are simply not being British, or, even worse, are probably from Liverpool. When Cameron talks he is simply speaking his part, but he is adamant that the scorn Thatcher poured onto others should not be returned to her. Her mourning family must have considerations that were never shown to the families of the Hillsborough victims, and although Thatcher willingly played her part in the Hillsborough cover-up, let's not go into all that now.

Instead we're asked to show respect for a Prime Minister whose own Cabinet were her rivals. Thatcher's death gives added height to David Cameron (a Prime Minister who wasn't actually voted in by the British people, yet there he is – reminding us all of our manners), and he does not understand how the best reason for doing something is because there's nothing in it for you. The words of Cameron are assumed to have weight, yet his personal gain is the only reason why he speaks those words. Cameron tells us that the British people loved Thatcher, but we are all aware that Sunningdale and Chelsea are his Britain; he does not mean the people of Salford or Stockton-on-Tees, who are, in any case, somewhere north of Lord's Cricket Ground.

Can the BBC possibly interview someone with no careerist gain attached to their dribble? No. On the day that nine British citizens are arrested in Trafalgar Square for voicing their objections to the Baroness, the BBC News instead offer their opening platform to Carol Thatcher, a dumped non-star of I'm a celebrity get me out of here, and to Sir Mark Thatcher (Sir!), unseen since the disgrace of his involvement in selling arms to countries at odds with Britain (magically, he avoided a 15-year prison term and was financially bailed out by his mother - her moral conscience nowhere in sight as Sir Mark patriotically took his 64 million and fled to Gibraltar having been refused entry to Switzerland and Monaco. What kind of mother raised such a son?) Both Mark and Carol get the BBC spotlight because they mourn their mother's death, whilst those honest civilians who mourn Thatcher's life are shunted out of view. This is how we see Syrian TV operate, and this is most certainly NOT a week when David Cameron will advise: "hug a hoodie." Whilst the quite astonishing social phenomenon of Ding Dong the witch is dead is ignored by the television news, instead we are shown an eight-minute clip of Psy, a funny little South Korean singer who is making all British newsreaders laugh with his funny little new video.

Today, news items from South Korea, Belgium and China get precedence over homeland news of anti-Thatcher protests in Trafalgar Square, and the meaningless banality of Modern Media Britain casts a shameful shadow. Repeated and repeated, words strengthen. The truth sleeps as the heartlessness of Thatcher is re-written as a strength, for it was not exclusively because Thatcher destroyed the miners or murdered the boys of The Belgrano that we feel rage, but it was the lip-smacking relish with which she did both, and with which she sent armies of police to batter anyone who opposed her view. Gaddafi did the same thing in the same way.

Thatcher could never show sympathy, or empathy, or understanding to those from whom David Cameron is now demanding a show of civil respect for a woman who, like Myra Hindley, proved to all of us that the female could be just as cruel as the male. By 1990 Thatcher was the gift that not even her own Cabinet wanted, and she was tufted out of office.

How could such a catastrophic end warrant a statue in Trafalgar Square? Revenge was the vital juice of every move made by Thatcher, and her results produced the most dis-United Kingdom ever seen in history. Although Thatcher was never flesh, her demeanor took on an incurably demented sadness, and her broadcasting tones registered madness … as Britain burned.

From all of this we see, in this April week of 2013, that modern media reporting in Britain is a disturbing fog of taboos and prejudices, reviving the divisions that Thatcher hatched, whilst hiding her horrors. Even in death, Thatcher remains 'the enemy within.'

And the truth sleeps.


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And so let the media bashing begin. It's so very easy when things are not reported the way we would like to say "it were the media that done did it". As one side complains of bias, simultaneously the other side will glaring point the finger with the same accusation. It's easily to be blind to the times when our views are broadcast, preferring to only recognise that which we disagree. Only last night did the BBC news feature politicians calling such a lavish funeral ludicrous and undeserved. It's easy to ignore that and continue to yell "BIAS!" because it supports theories held dear.

Again, the media is lumped in together. I hate to break it to you kids but there isn't a matrix that we plug into at the end of the night. Special cookies laced with barbiturates aren't passed around at nightly underground meetings to make us more susceptible to the Leader's message. The 'Media' is compromised of many people just like you. We are not robots. Articles, news pieces, programmes are all a result of experiences borne by the individual. Unfortunately a valid criticism that is often mounted is that the media tends to be comprised of white, middle class males. It's true. If anything this is the great failing of the mainstream media. And so what is reflected is the world seen through those eyes.

A great conspiracy is baseless. To report that the 'Ding Dong' failed to reach number one is the correct way to state that fact. After all, wasn't that the aim? Shouldn't it be reported in that context? To report that the song succeeded in reaching number two would mean editorialising the news which of course would only lead to more grumbling - this time of a left wing bias.

Admittedly, my own personal feelings is that the BBC treated the whole debacle badly. In trying to please everyone, they pleased no one. But that is the great failing of the BBC. It is there to speak for everyone. Its remit is not to be controversial or to provoke. That was the breach that Channel 4 once tried to embrace. The BBC's role is not to be anti-establishment. It is there to provide information impartially. You will find very few polemics there. It is to inform, educate and entertain. On the whole it takes the view that it is there to reflect the voice of the majority. That's where the problem lies. Unfortunately Morrissey fans, the majority of this country is not anti-establishment. Thatcher was genuinely loved by many. She was voted in three times by the electorate. Her popularity amongst Middle England should not come as a surprise. Additionally, time has also dulled the memories of a great many leaving them a fondness for the UK's first female PM.

You may not agree with them but they are there. The situation we are left to deal with is a mix of social conventions which dictate it is tasteless to speak ill of the dead, twenty plus years to let bygones be bygones and a broadcasting corporation who always, always, always errs on the side of the inoffensive.

With all that said, this will fall on deaf ears and people will continue as on the path they feel most comfortable. Don't let the truth get in the way.
 
Re: Surely how I feel is not nothing? MORRISSEY 16 APR 2013

Incredible insight! the mans a genius! :)

It is easy to appear to be a genius to a fool. My cat thinks I'm amazing, but he has no thumbs. Perspective is all.

As for this TTY statement, this rambling, incoherent drivel, this unpunctuated screed, I have only one thing to say. Write some songs, you embarrassing old fool.
 
Re: Surely how I feel is not nothing? MORRISSEY 16 APR 2013

It is easy to appear to be a genius to a fool. My cat thinks I'm amazing, but he has no thumbs. Perspective is all.

As for this TTY statement, this rambling, incoherent drivel, this unpunctuated screed, I have only one thing to say. Write some songs, you embarrassing old fool.


Says JB, the universal arbiter of all things tasteful and important. I'd rather read Morrissey on Thatcher's funeral than JB's tired and predictable sneering and name-calling any day of the week.

Where is that twat who, in a different thread, told someone who insulted the likes of JB that "insults impress no-one"...?
 
well well said moz,every word the truth,yes the tax payer pays for a funeral we all dont want,£10 million,this makes me sick to the stomach,yet our soldiers who have died in battle get a little flag draped over their coffins and led away quitly into the soil and forgotton,while thatch will live on in the momorys of the corrupt mps who have lied all these years,and cameron kisses butt,is this camerons last call?? i hope so,a revolution will happen if this goverment and its laws continue.
hope you rot in hell mags,and hope cameron joins u soon .
 
Re: Surely how I feel is not nothing? MORRISSEY 16 APR 2013

You can ramble and be correct, of course. I'm not sure why Morrissey issuing anti-Thatcher sentiments is any kind of a surprise to anyone. I'm glad he's voiced his ire. There is a dangerous revisionism in the air surrounding the epically loathsome Mrs T - and it is being wholly encouraged by Cameron and his cronies. I blame Meryl Streep.
 
Re: Surely how I feel is not nothing? MORRISSEY 16 APR 2013

It is easy to appear to be a genius to a fool. My cat thinks I'm amazing, but he has no thumbs. Perspective is all.

As for this TTY statement, this rambling, incoherent drivel, this unpunctuated screed, I have only one thing to say. Write some songs, you embarrassing old fool.

but youre here? and you read it? and felt moved to offer your insignificant unsolicited opinion? as you do every day all day. your cats even dumber than you.
 
How many of you whining f*** ups have felt so moved as to post your insightful opinion on the BBC or any other news sites?
your happyand eager to poke a stick at Moz for daring to voice a real opinion on a real issue but the best you can do is hide in your room whinging about paragraphs and desperatley trying to pick holes in an argument you barely comprehend.
if youre a genuine thatcherite lets hear your counter argument, ......................no thought not.
 
Re: Surely how I feel is not nothing? MORRISSEY 16 APR 2013

You can ramble and be correct, of course. I'm not sure why Morrissey issuing anti-Thatcher sentiments is any kind of a surprise to anyone. I'm glad he's voiced his ire. There is a dangerous revisionism in the air surrounding the epically loathsome Mrs T - and it is being wholly encouraged by Cameron and his cronies. I blame Meryl Streep.

This.
 
well well said moz,every word the truth,yes the tax payer pays for a funeral we all dont want,£10 million,.

Don't Socialists believe in the State paying for every little thing? I would have thought they would have been delighted to shell out, particularly for this.
 
Don't Socialists believe in the State paying for every little thing? I would have thought they would have been delighted to shell out, particularly for this.

Just because somebody doesn't care for Thatch or they don't believe our press is free doesn't make them a socialist. For certain Morrissey isn't a socialist.

The rumoured ten million pounds is nothing short of scandalous in these days of cutbacks. I can't see how anyone can condone spending millions of pounds of public money on a funeral, it's insane.
 
Re: Surely how I feel is not nothing? MORRISSEY 16 APR 2013

but youre here? and you read it? and felt moved to offer your insignificant unsolicited opinion? as you do every day all day. your cats even dumber than you.

You should learn to write correctly. English is a beautiful language and well worth the effort. Try it. You might like it. Innit?

Once more you you prove a point I have been making here for some time. You no longer need to have a functioning brain to follow Davyhulme's answer to Baby Jane. You just need to be a belieber, sorry, believer.

By the way, all contributions here are unsolicited.
 
Laurie Penny has an interesting and reasoned take.

"Nine days ago, Margaret Thatcher died in a suite at the Ritz and the country lost its wits. Her political legacy lives on and it's that legacy that is really being debated in the escalating frenzy around who gets control of the funeral narrative. This isn't about Thatcher. It never really was: not the parties, not the screeching pundits, not the ludicrous battle to get the song 'Ding Dong, The Witch is Dead. Actually, it's about us. It's about Britain and about the battle for control of the national narrative. Thatcher's death has become the occasion for a grand psychodrama of a vicious and divided nation."

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/04/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-margaret-thatcher
 
Just because somebody doesn't care for Thatch or they don't believe our press is free doesn't make them a socialist. For certain Morrissey isn't a socialist.

The rumoured ten million pounds is nothing short of scandalous in these days of cutbacks. I can't see how anyone can condone spending millions of pounds of public money on a funeral, it's insane.

I happen to agree with you, but for the left to cry "Privatise it!" is entirely at odds with one of their core beliefs.
 
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I totally agree with Moz on this one.

Yeah I'm with you on this. It is a bit rambly and could do with some paragraphs and a bit of structure but hard to fault it on content (unless ofcourse you disagree with the core concept that Thatch was a monster).
 
Good grief, what terrible writing. Imagine having to edit 600 pages of this! No wonder his autobiography has yet to surface!
 
Ok Morrissey, you hated Thatcher - we get it.

Now stop posting drivel on a sycophantic fan site and spend more of your efforts trying to get a record deal.

You're becoming increasingly boring and irrelevant the longer you go without one.
 
I happen to agree with you, but for the left to cry "Privatise it!" is entirely at odds with one their core beliefs

I'm no expert on leftist thinking but I would imagine that the left is opposed to extravagance of this nature. I think there's an element of the economic right's Queen dying and those in power giving her a Royal send off.

For me it's just another example of an out of touch Government looking after their own at the expence of the rest of us.
 

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