It is opinion, and that is fine, but where are the actual facts?Yeah I'm with you on this. It is a bit rambly and could do with some paragraphs and a bit of structure but hard to fault it on content (unless ofcourse you disagree with the core concept that Thatch was a monster).
Government is always out of touch. It's the nature of the beast.I'm no expert on leftist thinking but I would imagine that the left is opposed to extravagance of this nature. I think there's an element of the economic right's Queen dying and those in power giving her a Royal send off.
For me it's just another example of an out of touch Government looking after their own at the expence of the rest of us.
Whilst Morrissey was scribing this, my hometown was being bombed by extremist lunatic(s). That puts things in perspective for me. Thatcher's funeral wasn't even a blip on anyone's radar around here yesterday, including all local media. I'd rather a TTY post re: the situation here in Boston, which is much more relevant and more appreciated.How many of you whining fuck ups have felt so moved as to post your insightful opinion on the BBC or any other news sites?
your happyand eager to poke a stick at Moz for daring to voice a real opinion on a real issue but the best you can do is hide in your room whinging about paragraphs and desperatley trying to pick holes in an argument you barely comprehend.
if youre a genuine thatcherite lets hear your counter argument, ......................no thought not.
Government is always out of touch. It's the nature of the beast.
Watching the procession this morning there were boos and some people turned their backs, as is their right, but as we speak there have been no reports of any arrests. Hardly a police state. Now that might well change later because these things are often hijacked by anarchist groups.
Of course, if the Westboro Baptist Church carries out their threat to picket the funerals of the victims of the Boston bombings there might rightly be disgust amongst decent people. I look forward to Morrissey's statement on that. He seems to have plenty of time on his hands now he is no longer a songwriter.
Not really. It depends on whether you think a funeral is a funeral is a funeral, or not.In fairness this is the sort of innopropriate comparison that Morrissey would come out with
All that's missing is some mention of animal suffering.
Either way, his point isn't really about Thatcher, more about the press' and media coverage and despite him over egging it as usual I can't really fault what he's saying, we do have a media which airbrushes out any form of controversy, I don't think we've come that far since the 50's after all.
Not really. It depends on whether you think a funeral is a funeral is a funeral, or not.
Morrissey mentions both the Mail and the Guardian in his statement. If you look at the comments section of both papers you see the venom against her in both. Moreso in the Guardian, naturally, and it is bile of the most revolting type.
The BBC have been covering the protesters, including interviews with those opposing her and the cost of the funeral. BBC Radio Five Live, the only national news outlet had covered all opinion ad nauseum since her death. Again, Morrissey is factually, provably wrong to say dissent is being curtailed. What he means is he doesn't think there is enough in his opinion. He could have gone himself, of course, but apparently would prefer others to do it for him then moan about it afterwards.
Do some research yourself,rather than just relying on the main stream media. Oaklahoma City was an inside job.Thanks to whomever fixed this post for me.
The sad thing about despising and hating someone for so long is that when they die, you don't feel relief or closure. It's almost worse because you wanted them to suffer and to be on their deathbed confessing every offense and begging for forgiveness. I remember when they put Tim McVeigh (Oklahoma City Bomber) to death and the families of those who died were left feeling empty and gypped. He never said he was sorry or showed remorse of any kind and he never named his accomplices.
Hey Rowntree, if you think this is bad, you wait till the queen pops her clogs, there will be nothing, but nothing except royal coverage all over the shop. The BBC are particulary obsequious when it comes to the royals. When the time comes there will be no radio or telly in my house till the fawning passes.I seem to be on here a bit much today, anything to avoid printing endless shit off for the taxman!
I watched BBC News for a bit yesterday and it was pretty much all pro Thatch stuff with the occasional soundbite about her being divisive. My problem with their coverage is it wasn't really news at all, just a big Maggie love in. I'm getting a bit pissed with the Beeb in general at the minute, they keep cutting things, their news is becoming almost akin to that on ITV and my bill will still be the same or higher afterwards. That's my bit of ranting for the day.
I don't have a problem with any independent news organisation producing whatever slant they like on things, I don't have to buy their news but I have no option with the BBC and no matter how much they protest they're always slightly biased towards the government, whichever party is in power, much of a muchness I know.
ANYONE else that dies gets a clip on the news, has a couple of documentaries about their life and then gets a clip on the news again about their funeral - including prime ministers. We've been subjected to wall to wall coverage and a multi million pound funeral televised live and paid for by us. Personally, I think it takes the utter piss, if you're a fan then I'm sure you'll disagree, I'm just hoping that other monster Blair isn't afforded the same propaganda when he goes.
Yes Peter, I remember it well from Diana. My mother in law actually recorded her funeral, it's one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen anyone do. Three VHS tapes of funeral.Hey Rowntree, if you think this is bad, you wait till the queen pops her clogs, there will be nothing, but nothing except royal coverage all over the shop. The BBC are particulary obsequious when it comes to the royals. When the time comes there will be no radio or telly in my house till the fawning passes.
Not saying I'm going to go out and start a Psy website, but I would suggest something like Psy coming out of nowhere to become the top viewed YouTube video of all-time ("Gangnam Style" currently #1 with 1.5 billion views, a distant #2 is Justin Bieber at 849 million) and his new video getting over 100 million views in a few days is more of an 'astonishing social phenomenon' than "Ding Dong the witch is dead".Whilst the quite astonishing social phenomenon of Ding Dong the witch is dead is ignored by the television news, instead we are shown an eight-minute clip of Psy, a funny little South Korean singer who is making all British newsreaders laugh with his funny little new video. Today, news items from South Korea, Belgium and China get precedence over homeland news of anti-Thatcher protests in Trafalgar Square, and the meaningless banality of Modern Media Britain casts a shameful shadow.
One of the spactacles that sickened me during the Diana mourning period (and one which no doubt will reoccur) was that of people sobbing for her. Maybe I'm being unfair, but do we not have enough tragedy and hardship in our own lives without openly weeping over dead rich people who we have never even met? I for one will save my grief for those close by.Yes Peter, I remember it well from Diana. My mother in law actually recorded her funeral, it's one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen anyone do. Three VHS tapes of funeral.
As an American, I understand your anguish and frustration today; however, one of the biggest complaints about Americans is that we tend to presume that our news, our tragedies are the most important events in the world. In addition to the Boston bombings and Thatcher's funeral, there was a massive earthquake on the Pakistan/Iran border, but that received little attention because it happened to "those people" (not my personal sentiment, just an observation of accepted public perception) I am not in any way being insulting, I am just trying to show that it is human nature to respond to the events that affect you most directly, and that is what Morrissey did.Whilst Morrissey was scribing this, my hometown was being bombed by extremist lunatic(s). That puts things in perspective for me. Thatcher's funeral wasn't even a blip on anyone's radar around here yesterday, including all local media. I'd rather a TTY post re: the situation here in Boston, which is much more relevant and more appreciated.
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