Tirade against the NME on Morrissey Official FB by Peter Katsis

Appears to come from Peter Katsis. Appallingly written mess of a statement.

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Text here:

"The N.M.E. used to represent the underground.

Now they are becoming known as The Guardian of rock music.

They had to stop printing copies.

Not because no one buys magazines.

Print publications like Q Magazine and Kerrang! still exist, because they remember who they are.

But not N.M.E.

They forgot who they were.

And because they just aren’t cool anymore.

N.M.E. are also just full of shit.

And can’t even afford good writers to work for them.

They like to remind readers of all the past allegations of the year, despite their lack of any basis in fact, despite that they are just re-hashing stories over and over, old news, fake news, etc.

But they leave out their own old issues, of lawsuits lost, and legal battles that forced them to apologize to M in the past.

And they lie more than Donald Trump.

-N.M.E. asked no one from M’s camp for comment to their recent story.

-Haslam was never a Moz fan. He was a publicity hound who had a new book coming that no one cared about.

-We didn’t cancel our summer shows because of Haslam’s weak event, the protest that drew no people.

-Moz in not a racist.

None of M’s latino fans care about UK politics, but hell…..why not call them up and try and find a story where one doesn’t exist?

Not like they have anything real to write about……like music.

Because they don’t even know what music is anymore.

Basically all this points to the fact that writer(?) Bob Chiarito and his editors at N.M.E. have been relegated to meaninglessness.

Not really even worth writing about for this Facebook post.

We stand up for ourselves here, not because we give a shit anymore what these folks say…..

…..but to point out to the fans and music industry of the UK that they’ve changed their title.

Now N.M.E. stands for …….Now Mostly Excrement.

No longer of any value to the music community…. they have decided to be the TMZ of music news.

Good riddance. - PK"

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[reelfountain]

In all honesty, I didn't know she was on the spectrum. Her mentioning that totally passed me by.

It seemed like a perfectly normal question to ask of a person who thinks that the Nazis were left-wing and had a history of stalking Andy Rourke for 5+ years.

What a strange teacher you must be (if you're telling the truth, which you aren't).

 

[Eldritch]

Surface that was YOU, a pro MOZ RIGHT WING TROLL only to SWITCH TO LEFT WING MUSLIM TROLL when your Master puppeteer SKINNY turned on MOZ!! YOU USED TO ON RIGHT WING BLOGS!!
STALKING REALITY BITES and BRUMMIE BOY!! You are a CREEPY STALKING TROLL.
Now you spend your life not only stalking me, but stalking anyone you suspect of 'posting to me'. LOL
thats like 100 percent on the CREEPY SCALE.

You, sir, are a vile c***.

 

[StalinsPipe]

I do think its quite a common aspect of autism to become very preoccupied with interests to an unhealthy level so stalking would be quite possible but completely unhealthy.

I think you're being unfair on autistic people, to be fair. Yes, many people with autism get obsessed with things, but this isn't, in my experience, unhealthy. If anything, it gives people with autism a great deal of pleasure and enjoyment.

I think Andrea's stalking has little to do with her Asperger's, and to suggest it does is to either insult other people on the spectrum or allow her to get away with it. Many people I know with autism and Asperger's know and understand right from wrong, and they wouldn't dream of doing anything like what Andrea did.

 

[StalinsPipe]

What a strange teacher you must be (if you're telling the truth, which you aren't).

Reel, I actually have a great deal of respect for you and you often make very fine arguments, and you aren't just a common troll like vegan, who gets a kick out of insults and emoji. But what is it with you not believing people if you haven't experienced it yourself, personally? Case in point, above you totally dismissed the person who said they work in housing. Why? What makes his perspective and experience any less valid than yours? Yes, you both have different opinions on the matter, but from your respective points of view you are both right, so perhaps the truth of the matter was somewhere in the middle. I happen to believe that from your point of view you are both right, in that you have experienced different things and different sides of the same thing. Rather than dismissing him as some lefty or giving an official line, why not have a dialogue with him, and perhaps see it from his perspective, and ask him to do the same for you?

Then, you have dismissed the fact that I qualified as a teacher and was a teacher. I could probably send you pictures of my university graduation certificates, my QTS certificate and my school ID badges, but you'd still find some way to insist that I'm lying or whatever. It's completely baffling behaviour, and I think you need to start taking in different perspectives, rather than just dismissing people because you haven't experienced it first hand.

 

[E Scott]

I think you're being unfair on autistic people, to be fair. Yes, many people with autism get obsessed with things, but this isn't, in my experience, unhealthy. If anything, it gives people with autism a great deal of pleasure and enjoyment.

I think Andrew's stalking has little to do with her Asperger's, and to suggest it does is to either insult other people on the spectrum or allow her to get away with it. Many people I know with autism and Asperger's know and understand right from wrong, and they wouldn't dream of doing anything like what Andrea did.

I do understand your point of view and of course anyone can be a stalker and it's not an excuse. Many folk are able to live healthy lives with Autism and have minimal issues with personal interactions with others and with help can learn to assess situations and respond appropriately.

 

[StalinsPipe]

I do understand your point of view and of course anyone can be a stalker and it's not an excuse. Many folk are able to live healthy lives with Autism and have minimal issues with personal interactions with others and with help can learn to assess situations and respond appropriately.

I'm sorry if it came across as dismissive, and I'm sure you were speaking from personal experience. Autism is such a massive spectrum, and every autistic person is different to the next, just like non-autistic people. In my experience, I probably only met 1 autistic student out of dozens and dozens who had an unhealthy obsession, so I just wanted to give my point of view that this isn't necessarily the norm and shouldn't be used to give Andrea an excuse for her frankly dangerous behaviour.

 

[countthree]

The Nazi Party was officially known as the "National Socialist German Workers' Party". I believe that Morrissey was right when he said that Adolf Hitler was left-wing. People associate 'socialism' with being left-wing. Also the fact that it was called a 'workers' party I'm guessing that they were trying to appeal to the working-class.

I take your point that people immediately associate Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler with the far-right but that is because they maybe haven't thought deeply about it the way that Morrissey has. That isn't reason though to call people names or to swear. I don't like swearing/profanity.

I would say that Joseph Stalin was every bit as bad as Adolf Hitler was. They were both tyrannical dictators and they both caused so much death and misery in this world.

You are right in the sense that it doesn't matter the useless dicotomy between left and right. I think the most important value for human beings is freedom. If a system of government can assure people they will enjoy freedom, taking care that the freedom of a person or a group of persons doesn't affect the freedom of others, that's all what people need from a government.
From my own experience, the best governments are the ones you don't notice they are there unless you need them to protect your safety and freedom. That's why omnipresent states, flashy and egocentric rulers and a lot of state employees are a curse and a burden to common people.
You don't want to pay taxes to employ people for whom must be created functions that complicate your daily life with stupid regulations and formalities. You don't want to be reminded all the time that a group of people are living luxurious lives financed by the fruit of your work or by privileges you don't have. You don't want to depend on the whims of someone else to enjoy the basic human rights that a free person must have just for being a human.
It's not about left or right, it's about freedom or dictatorship. It always was that way during all historical times. The true struggle of humankind was always a struggle for freedom from slavery imposed by other men, no matter the shape of the chains.

"La libertad, Sancho, es uno de los más preciosos dones que a los hombres dieron los cielos; con ella no pueden igualarse los tesoros que encierran la tierra y el mar: por la libertad, así como por la honra, se puede y debe aventurar la vida. " Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra

 

[vegan.cro spirit# 112]

You, sir, are a vile c***.

LOL the guy is a fing CREEPY MFR, since hes Skinny boyfriend he thinks he owns here.
Every time I post the Creep has to stalk me, I think only fair for me to remind peeps hes been outed
as Skinnys lover. I think I will do that regularly Goose and gander LOL

PS Skinny would give peeps info to him back in the day. Not that he doesnt now.

 

[vegan.cro spirit #345]

Yes, I must be really intolerant because I gave my personal perspective of autistic people from my personal experiences working in education. Andrea should be correctly judged for being a stalker, but she shouldn't be judged for having autism.

Dude, you are STALINSpipe. Thatst S T A L I N. STALIN who shot doctors who thought he needed rest.

Shes not the only stalker here that FOR SURE> I got one of my own, and nobody seems to mind so why the sudden BIG ADO?

 

[reelfountain]

Reel, I actually have a great deal of respect for you and you often make very fine arguments, and you aren't just a common troll like vegan, who gets a kick out of insults and emoji. But what is it with you not believing people if you haven't experienced it yourself, personally? Case in point, above you totally dismissed the person who said they work in housing. Why? What makes his perspective and experience any less valid than yours? Yes, you both have different opinions on the matter, but from your respective points of view you are both right, so perhaps the truth of the matter was somewhere in the middle. I happen to believe that from your point of view you are both right, in that you have experienced different things and different sides of the same thing. Rather than dismissing him as some lefty or giving an official line, why not have a dialogue with him, and perhaps see it from his perspective, and ask him to do the same for you?

Then, you have dismissed the fact that I qualified as a teacher and was a teacher. I could probably send you pictures of my university graduation certificates, my QTS certificate and my school ID badges, but you'd still find some way to insist that I'm lying or whatever. It's completely baffling behaviour, and I think you need to start taking in different perspectives, rather than just dismissing people because you haven't experienced it first hand.

Stalin, you misunderstood me. I wasn't denying you were a teacher, I meant you were lying about 'writing like a child' not being facetious!

Maybe I wasn't clear about that, but I assure you that's what I meant. Go back and look at the context again if you like. And the whole thing seems silly now as I was half-winding you up from the beginning of that thread anyway.

Thanks for your first sentence in your message. It's exactly how I feel about your posts and arguments too. I do believe different viewpoints make the world more interesting (even if I might sound dismissive). I often dig out books and articles etc. specifically for contrary opinions, experiences etc. For example I read Norman Tebbit's autobiography recently (quite a yawn in some places) and might even read Tony Blair's one day (though maybe not, ha ha.)

 

[vegan.cro spirit #123]

Reel, I actually have a great deal of respect for you and you often make very fine arguments, and you aren't just a common troll like vegan, who gets a kick out of insults and emoji. But what is it with you not believing people if you haven't experienced it yourself, personally? Case in point, above you totally dismissed the person who said they work in housing. Why? What makes his perspective and experience any less valid than yours? Yes, you both have different opinions on the matter, but from your respective points of view you are both right, so perhaps the truth of the matter was somewhere in the middle. I happen to believe that from your point of view you are both right, in that you have experienced different things and different sides of the same thing. Rather than dismissing him as some lefty or giving an official line, why not have a dialogue with him, and perhaps see it from his perspective, and ask him to do the same for you?

Then, you have dismissed the fact that I qualified as a teacher and was a teacher. I could probably send you pictures of my university graduation certificates, my QTS certificate and my school ID badges, but you'd still find some way to insist that I'm lying or whatever. It's completely baffling behaviour, and I think you need to start taking in different perspectives, rather than just dismissing people because you haven't experienced it first hand.

WTF? "COMMON"!!!!???? who are you the ninth Duke of the Council Estate?
Someone with half a dozen tattoos and the name STALIN calling peeps "COMMON", will
the insanity ever stop among the Moz haters

 

[g23]

Why do you write like a child?

I really enjoy reading nearly all of your input on the site, but attacking the non-neurotypical isn't a good look. In this case, I would recommend disengaging or at the least, stop with the attacks. If Andy Rourke can forgive her, then surely you can be as kind as him, they guy who was directly affected.

 

[StalinsPipe]

Stalin, you misunderstood me. I wasn't denying you were a teacher, I meant you were lying about 'writing like a child' not being facetious!

Maybe I wasn't clear about that, but I assure you that's what I meant. Go back and look at the context again if you like. And the whole thing seems silly now as I was half-winding you up from the beginning of that thread anyway.

Thanks for your first sentence in your message. It's exactly how I feel about your posts and arguments too. I do believe different viewpoints make the world more interesting (even if I might sound dismissive). I often dig out books and articles etc. specifically for contrary opinions, experiences etc. For example I read Norman Tebbit's autobiography recently (quite a yawn in some places) and might even read Tony Blair's one day (though maybe not, ha ha.)

Apologies for that then. I probably wouldn't bother reading Tony Blair's book, although it is no doubt interesting to get a look at his psyche.

 

[StalinsPipe]

I really enjoy reading nearly all of your input on the site, but attacking the non-neurotypical isn't a good look. In this case, I would recommend disengaging or at the least, stop with the attacks. If Andy Rourke can forgive her, then surely you can be as kind as him, they guy who was directly affected.

Hey, listen, I apologise for any offense caused RE the Asperger's - I didn't realise she was on the spectrum.

 

[Anonymous]

How about the dude from the Blue Rose? He posted plenty on him.
what did he do with the info he obtained? Perchance passing it on to his
creepy cronies?

Hes been checking on me too, my secret Literature blogs LOL
Its secret for reason for it being super secret.

When you think of 'normalcy' Skinny is the first dude that comes to mind

Who is the guy from the Blue Rose blog? Why did Skinny post on him? I have not heard about this before.

 

[reelfountain]

Apologies for that then. I probably wouldn't bother reading Tony Blair's book, although it is no doubt interesting to get a look at his psyche.

I suppose Blair's book should be in the serial killer section!

 

[vegan.cro spirit #236]

I dont know but peeps who post other peeps personal info like first and last names shouldnt be calling anyone stalkers LOL
I mean WTF?
Except if they are.........RACISTS lol.......OR NAZIS lol lol....OR LIKE MOZ at the MOZ FORUM....then I suppose its OK.
(the subject Moz includes the predicates RACIST and NAZIS so if someone likes Moz its a given and you dont really have to worry about any actual facts)

Funnier is when peeps claim that someone is a troll because they used to be negative towards Moz but are now positive towards him. Specially when said by peeps who were former Moz TV geniuses or/and have half a dozen Moz tattoos.

 

[StalinsPipe]

I suppose Blair's book should be in the serial killer section!

I just don't find him that interesting. I lived that history, so I don't feel like I need to read about it just yet.

 

[reelfountain]

I just don't find him that interesting. I lived that history, so I don't feel like I need to read about it just yet.

I've never really believed he's his own man anyway. He's so false and shallow. His mannerisms have always reminded me of a puppet on a string. Alistair Campbell was behind him doing all the work.

 

[reelfountain]

Poster boy for New Labour. Back in the day this bloke loved Blair.