Statement by Morrissey in Hot Press on Queen's visit to Ireland

The Very Existence of the Queen Is Against Any Notion of Democracy - Hot Press

16 May 2011

This is just one of a number of compelling charges set down by Morrissey in an article written for Hot Press, to coincide with the Queen's visit to Ireland

The Queen's visit to Ireland is part of a new Palace PR campaign to re-invent the Windsors. The message from the Queen will be the same as ever: who we are born to is more important than what we achieve in life.

It should be remembered by the Irish people that as recently as the turn of the 1980s the Queen supported Margaret Thatcher by not dismissing Thatcher as she allowed hunger strikers to die at the Maze Prison, most famously Bobby Sands, who was 27 years old. As Sands starved to death in protest at being tagged a 'criminal' and not a 'political prisoner' by the Thatcher government, the Queen sat in her Palace and said nothing. If the Queen had any human feelings for the Sands family or other hunger strikers then she did not express them.

The full meaning of the Monarchy is, like the Queen herself, a complete mystery to most people. It is protected from any investigations by ridiculous stories of trivia and wedding dresses and on-again-off-again soap-drama romances. The most revealing statement came from Commander Christine Jones of the Metropolitan Police last month, when she warned that any British people carrying anti-royal placards who are "seen in the vicinity of the royal wedding would be removed under the Public Order Act." This means that any political dissent in England is silenced in order to protect the royals, which in itself goes against every principle of democracy.

The very existence of the Queen and her now enormous family – all supported by the British taxpayer whether the British taxpayer likes it or not – is entirely against any notion of democracy, and is against freedom of speech. For a broad historical view of what the Queen is and how she "rules", examine Gaddafi or Mubarak, and see if you can spot any difference.

You won't be able to.

The Queen also has the power to give back the six counties to the Irish people, allowing Ireland to be a nation once again. The fact that she has not done so is Fascism in full flow. What else could it be? Name one other European country that is controlled by its neighbour?

MORRISSEY

May 2011

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Uncleskinny also sends the link:

Morrissey says the Queen should give six counties back to Ireland - Hot Press

Excerpt:

With the visit of Queen Elizabeth to Ireland due to begin tomorrow, Tuesday May 17, the Lancashire born singer, songwriter and performer Steven Patrick Morrissey has written an article for Hot Press, which challenges in trenchant terms the appropriateness of welcoming the British monarch to Ireland.

...The full article appears in the issue of Hot Press which hits the streets this Thursday, May 19.

 

[Anonymous]

I think you will find that people of today still mourn the death of Hitler when we see what Europe is like now. No denying that Hitler was right but maybe you enjoy life in your paki-hell that is the UK?

Where are the moderators?

Rancid, brutally moronic, vicious nonsense like this should be taken down immediately.

One is used to obnoxiousness and malice on these boards, but the above is rank racism of the most deplorable, base order and needs to be removed.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Please, people, take a moment to remember that this is just a forum, and it's just the Internet, and they're just words. If you can't listen to other people's opinions without going apeshit and launching into contradictory tirades then don't get involved in debates. Empty vessels make the most noise, as they say.

Let's all take a group chill pill, washed down with a glass of CalmThef***Down.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm a lawyer (evil legal eagle...) and the "stupid Brit" and the other guy are right. The Queen has entirely theoretical political power and nothing more. If she ever tried to wield it over Parliament there would be uproar.

Just to clarify, you are wrong, and obnoxious to boot.

If you are a British Lawer you will know full well that Magistrates swear their oath to the Queen. Now, you may well say this is 'symbolic' and the Queen has no actual power etc etc...you'd be wrong...this is sad basis of British Law.

 

[Anonymous]

The so-called 'Queen' is the richest person in the world.

If she has 'no real power' as some of you say then why is she still here, is that not power? The majority in Britain care little or nothing for her or her family and only a constant tide of propaganda stops people actually seeing this for what it really is and evicting this leach.

Britain is not a democracy is it? We have no written constitution but are subjects to royal prerogatives and parliamentary conventions.

 

[Bluebirds]

What do you call a man with a hotel on his head?

Norman Tebbit

 

[goinghome]

The last official Royal visit to Ireland was by Queen Victoria who rowed over in her canoe in 1900. It was her fourth time. She pressed less well-endowed flesh than her own just after the famine in 1849, and came back in 1853 only to conclude that most of us were "wretcthed-looking people all in rags". She traipsed to the Curragh (the Royals have horses all over the place) and Killarney in 1891, fancying the latter so much that, like Morrissey, she had to include a return trip there on her tour of the country in 1900 when England's concerted policy was to try to "kill home rule with kindness".

Gerry Adams, TD/(MP) and president of Sinn Fein, the party who're considered these days to be the civilised version of the IRA prepared to work democratically and non-violently for a autonomous republic, is reported to be feeling offended to have to live in a partitioned country partly ruled by the Queen, while understanding the Unionist's affiliation and wish to see her, and even envisioning that the visit might possibly bring forward a healthier and more equal relationship between the two countries.

The press statement by Joe Higgins, respected Socialist Party TD/(MP) acknowledged to be a man of integrity, erudition and compassion, closely parralels Morrissey's position:

"Although the British monarchy is an anachronistic relic of a feudal era. where kings and queens ruthlessly exacted tribute from the 'common people", the British establishment maintains it for its purposes. Royal goings on feature daily in the media which goes inot palpitating overdrive at events such as a royal wedding. The establishment hopes this will distract the masses from its failings. The queen is head of the armed forces and has powers to dismiss a prime mininster and appoint another, as her governor general did in Australia in 1975, firing Labour PM Gough Whitlam. There is no polace ina deomcratic society for an unelected institution with inherited powers."

The big problem with Morrissey's Hot Press bulletin though is the omission of some critical detail. How else, but with Royal frippery, does he expect us to amuse ourselves if the 18th pale descendent himself gives no indication that his tour will include one or several stops in the old country of his Irish blood?!

 

[Johnny Barleycorn]

The so-called 'Queen' is the richest person in the world.

If she has 'no real power' as some of you say then why is she still here, is that not power? The majority in Britain care little or nothing for her or her family and only a constant tide of propaganda stops people actually seeing this for what it really is and evicting this leach.

Britain is not a democracy is it? We have no written constitution but are subjects to royal prerogatives and parliamentary conventions.

Just because people do not agree with you in sufficient numbers for you to get your way does not mean the country is not a democracy. It just means you do not have the intellectual vigour to comprehend the meaning of the word.

This "the people are not as clever as I am" sort of argument as shown above is typical of the left. They seem to believe they have an intelligence the poor proletariat are incapable of understanding.

The majority of Britons are in favour of the monarchy, with somewhere in the region of 20% describing themselves as being in favour of a republic. The British public are also in favour of the first past the post voting system, which recently defeated a proposed alternative voting system by just over 2 to 1.

To get over these inconvenient truths the cry of fix is heard from the usual suspects. When the people give their opinion the left only hear when it suits them.

By the way, the Queen has yet to prevent me from doing anything whatsoever. Nor do I expect her to involve herself in my day to day existence anytime soon, anymore than President Obama might wander down main street and tell someone to pick up their litter.

I think perhaps there are reasons to think we can get a meeting of minds on this topic though. After all, both sides of the argument are both heartily sick of hearing from an increasingly ludicrous, anachronistic, faintly embarrassing, out of touch, past their sell by date, piss-stained old Queen.

 

[Johnny Barleycorn]

The last official Royal visit to Ireland was by Queen Victoria who rowed over in her canoe in 1900. It was her fourth time. She pressed less well-endowed flesh than her own just after the famine in 1849, and came back in 1853 only to conclude that most of us were "wretcthed-looking people all in rags". She traipsed to the Curragh (the Royals have horses all over the place) and Killarney in 1891, fancying the latter so much that, like Morrissey, she had to include a return trip there on her tour of the country in 1900 when England's concerted policy was to try to "kill home rule with kindness".

Gerry Adams, TD/(MP) and president of Sinn Fein, the party who're considered these days to be the civilised version of the IRA prepared to work democratically and non-violently for a autonomous republic, is reported to be feeling offended to have to live in a partitioned country partly ruled by the Queen, while understanding the Unionist's affiliation and wish to see her, and even envisioning that the visit might possibly bring forward a healthier and more equal relationship between the two countries.

The press statement by Joe Higgins, respected Socialist Party TD/(MP) acknowledged to be a man of integrity, erudition and compassion, closely parralels Morrissey's position:



The big problem with Morrissey's Hot Press bulletin though is the omission of some critical detail. How else, but with Royal frippery, does he expect us to amuse ourselves if the 18th pale descendent himself gives no indication that his tour will include one or several stops in the old country of his Irish blood?!

Perhaps the Queen should turn up with one of those enormous charity cheques with "Seven billion quid" written on it.

 

[Bluebirds]

Johnny

You're obviously not a resident of Windsor then. My girlfriend is not allowed to put plastic drinks cartons in her recycling because of her. One is also not allowed to smoke outside the train station even though the concourse is uncovered. Honestly she is such a fascist. Don't know where she gets it from

I think the Irish dates will be announced on Friday, along with a special picture disc version of his latest Greatest Hits effort. It will probably feature him dressed as a leprechaun

 

[ravenslament]

morrissey knows how to get his fans riled .... or should that be morrissey fans get each other riled .

ps there is always one who has to be a racist numbskull .... do your self a favour mate get a f'in life and embrace anothers culture and religion then humanity might get along instead of blowing each other to kingdom come . we are only a small part of the earth story and it will carry on when we are all dust . i agree with karl above its a forum , on the internet using words to arouse emotions . lets all simmer down

 

[Anonymous]

The so-called 'Queen' is the richest person in the world.

she's not even close to being the richest person in the world. jk rowling has a bigger personal fortune than the queen.

 

[Bluebirds]

By the way the Swedish IRA supporter (Urban) who don't you go to Omagh and tell them your views? I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms. I don't think Morrissey actually indicates his position on dissident Republicanism in his statement, do you?

Always preferred hte Baader-Meinhof myself. Far sexier

 

[Johnson]

disgusting statement from Morrissey

Disgusting. Disgusted.

 

[Bluebirds]

Name one other European country that is controlled by its neighbour?

For someone who professes to be such a fan of Eurovision Morrissey is sometimes a bit of a thicko isn't he? I hope he makes a statement about that tactical voting Ruddy fix I tell you. It was like that 1982 World Cup game between Austria and West Germany.

Moldova should have won it. And as for Ireland not voting Blue in top place I suppose that was a backlash against the Queen's visit too?


Maybe Spain and the Basques? Or Spain and the Catalans? Or the French and the Corsicans? Or maybe the English and the Scots? Or English and the Welsh? What about Alsace-Lorraine? And Cyprus what's all that about then?

And don't even get started on the country formerly known as Yugoslavia

 

[Arthurand allhiswomen]

Deary me. He asks us to spot the difference between Gadaffi and the Queen? Well, the Queen doesn't control an army, isn't a dictator, and nor does she have any meaningful political or economic say in how the country is run, that's a pretty big difference right there.

"Name one other European country that is controlled by its neighbour?"

Wales and Scotland. That's two.

Seriously, an absolutely wonderful lyricist, great performer, but also liable to statements of cringe-worthy ignorance.

This post hits the nail on the head and should go down in history at this point in Morrisseys career as true. Ignorant. Stupid. Childish.Disgraceful. The world doesn't need Morrisseys revolting thoughts. Ignoramous of this age. Steven Patrick Morrissey.Your mother must be very proud of you right now. Ignorant, stupid, horrible man. Personally, I think he has been mediocre for all those years of refusal You are out Steven.You have been for years. I wash my hands on you.

 

[Anonymous]

The Troubles in Northern Ireland aren't fully over as there are still dissident republicans but Northern Ireland is alot more quieter than it was at the height of the troubles and most people in Northern Ireland want to move in to a more peaceful way of life but unfortunately there's still dissident pricks out there who are trying to drag it in to the dark ages again.

The DUP and Sinn Fein are trying to compromise and build better relationships between the two communities and the vast majority of people in Northern Ireland want that. The visit by the Queen is a step forward and it's a step at building better ultimately more normal relationships between the Republic and the UK.

Morrissey's statement is like something the Real IRA would say. Totally extremist and offensive.

 

[Denny]

Is that the same Ireland which gave succour to Hitler during the war? Is it that one? Eire? The only nation ON THE PLANET to send condolences to the German people after the death of the Fuhrer? Is it that one? Is it those cheeky little fascist enabling leprechauns? Bless 'em.

Eamon de Valera is Hitler's footstool in a previously unseen circle of Hell, and before you get too defensive, Oliver Cromwell is serving the drinks.

moronic post.

 

[goinghome]

The last official Royal visit to Ireland was by Queen Victoria :

Actually that was the last visit by a queen, in 1900. Much later, politicians of the time disclosed that the welcome was forced on many local councillors. Protest meetings were commonplace and British decorations were vandalised, though of course plenty revelled in the celebrity element too. Also while she was here, a failed attempt was made by a young anarchist at a Brussels railway station to assassinate her son, the Prince of Wales, who became Edward VII in 1901. He then popped in on the neighbouring Emereld Isle, quite regularly for a while, in 1903, 1904 and 1907, while his son King George V dropped over in 1911. That was it till now.

Does anyone else think that the Ted and Ralph characters from The Fast Show suggest something about how the English and Irish related to each other in the past, sometimes? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DukZxJ4wS4A&feature=related

"The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting.” Milan Kundera quotes (Czech Novelist, Playwright and Poet, b.1929)

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

The challenge is to keep in mind the no nay never again's of the past while not letting it cloud judgement of real improvement and genuine goodwill between former foes as time goes by, as much for individuals as for nations.

"A map of the world that does not include Utopia is not worth even glancing at, for it leaves out the one country at which Humanity is always landing." - H'oscah!

 

[Johnson]

This post hits the nail on the head and should go down in history at this point in Morrisseys career as true. Ignorant. Stupid. Childish.Disgraceful. The world doesn't need Morrisseys revolting thoughts. Ignoramous of this age. Steven Patrick Morrissey.Your mother must be very proud of you right now. Ignorant, stupid, horrible man. Personally, I think he has been mediocre for all those years of refusal You are out Steven.You have been for years. I wash my hands on you.

Morrissey loves two things: himself and fame and he stalks both relentlessly.Stop now you idiot of a man! You ignorant bastard!

 

[Anonymous]

Shame about poor Shergar eh Moz? Amazing that, as a potential victim, Morrissey could identify with the innocent victims of the Moors murderers yet conversely seems to have been in some way impervious to the mainland bombing campaigns of Bobby Sands's murderous mates in the PIRA.