Statement by Morrissey in Hot Press on Queen's visit to Ireland

Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2011 (read-only)' started by punky, May 16, 2011.

By punky on May 16, 2011 at 3:05 PM
  1. punky

    punky New Member

    Dec 10, 2006
    In A Seaside Town They Forgot To Close Down...
    The Very Existence of the Queen Is Against Any Notion of Democracy - Hot Press

    16 May 2011

    This is just one of a number of compelling charges set down by Morrissey in an article written for Hot Press, to coincide with the Queen's visit to Ireland

    The Queen's visit to Ireland is part of a new Palace PR campaign to re-invent the Windsors. The message from the Queen will be the same as ever: who we are born to is more important than what we achieve in life.

    It should be remembered by the Irish people that as recently as the turn of the 1980s the Queen supported Margaret Thatcher by not dismissing Thatcher as she allowed hunger strikers to die at the Maze Prison, most famously Bobby Sands, who was 27 years old. As Sands starved to death in protest at being tagged a 'criminal' and not a 'political prisoner' by the Thatcher government, the Queen sat in her Palace and said nothing. If the Queen had any human feelings for the Sands family or other hunger strikers then she did not express them.

    The full meaning of the Monarchy is, like the Queen herself, a complete mystery to most people. It is protected from any investigations by ridiculous stories of trivia and wedding dresses and on-again-off-again soap-drama romances. The most revealing statement came from Commander Christine Jones of the Metropolitan Police last month, when she warned that any British people carrying anti-royal placards who are "seen in the vicinity of the royal wedding would be removed under the Public Order Act." This means that any political dissent in England is silenced in order to protect the royals, which in itself goes against every principle of democracy.

    The very existence of the Queen and her now enormous family – all supported by the British taxpayer whether the British taxpayer likes it or not – is entirely against any notion of democracy, and is against freedom of speech. For a broad historical view of what the Queen is and how she "rules", examine Gaddafi or Mubarak, and see if you can spot any difference.

    You won't be able to.

    The Queen also has the power to give back the six counties to the Irish people, allowing Ireland to be a nation once again. The fact that she has not done so is Fascism in full flow. What else could it be? Name one other European country that is controlled by its neighbour?


    May 2011

    Uncleskinny also sends the link:

    Morrissey says the Queen should give six counties back to Ireland - Hot Press


    With the visit of Queen Elizabeth to Ireland due to begin tomorrow, Tuesday May 17, the Lancashire born singer, songwriter and performer Steven Patrick Morrissey has written an article for Hot Press, which challenges in trenchant terms the appropriateness of welcoming the British monarch to Ireland.

    ...The full article appears in the issue of Hot Press which hits the streets this Thursday, May 19.

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Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2011 (read-only)' started by punky, May 16, 2011.

    1. Anonymous
      Does he actually think that the Queen has any real political power which would put her in a position to "give back the six counties". She is simply an outdated and redundant figurehead, not a tyrant. Statements like this just look embarrassing and ignorant.
    2. Anonymous
      Clue: royal prerogatives

      I am not British and it is a horror to read how little Brits know their constitution. Did you know that your prime minster has the power to go to war without having to consult parliament first? Or who the judges are that rule in the Supreme Court that was established in 2009?
    3. goinghome
      He's just never going to forgive her, is he, for that time all those years ago when she told him that he couldn't sing?!:p
    4. Anonymous
      She has ultimate political authority but chooses not to exercise it. When Queenie's being given millions of pounds by her government, then why rock the boat.
    5. Anonymous
      you do realise the person was talking about the queen, not the PM what you said nothing to do with the power the queen has herself.
    6. celibate
      me thinks Morrissey is pointing towards Nortern Island

      dunno much about ' that' English history that on UK soil , ever were parts of Ireland

      again, he's better shut his mouth, and should talk about animals

      the Grey Wolf is not longer protected in the USA, decades they've tried
      to get more, and know they come nearer the Rockies 2nd houses of the citiy richest, they
      are on the kill list

      sorry Karl, again 2 different stories, and even not aware what Morrissey
      means with his 6 Irish parts

      [maybe 6 Pubs in Manchester owned by an irishman and now taken over by Guiness*]

      * sorry Karl just impulsive thought

      I saw the great Houdini , who did 2 years or so, the song poll with Johan
      on Dutch National News [NOS] about the soccer game, if wasn't him
      he must have a someone who looks like him, he was looking great,
      Hi G. if yer reading , sorry about writing this, and Twente would've
      deserved it, anyway it was great to see how Twente team got
      cheered in Enschede, the big winner was Grolsch

      all the best to you, next year better:thumb:
    7. Anonymous
      Just shut up and educate yourself first, you stupid Brit. I am sick and tired of the idiocy that is coming from her Majesties subjects who do not even get the basics together. A democracy means that you at least have a very basic knowledge about politics and the system, which is completly lacked by most fools who visit this website or go to Morrissey concerts.
    8. celibate
      controlled by his neighbour

      is Morrissey aware when the Russiun federation collapsed and split inti lot of countries
      Past years there's constantly iriataion between the Ukraine and Rusland, not to mention those
      southern countries at the south around the' black sea' and more

      the Russians still want control on all the states, and the hot item is religion which was
      forbidden in the communist years, there are at least the 4 big religions now in those
      countries, and civil was between the religious

      Does Morrissey ever hears about Israel

      I could go on, but me thinks Morrissey must cincentrating on his upcominmg gigs,
      in his songs we know what he thinks about the Royals and the Irish situation

      sorry Karl
    9. Anonymous
      I'm a lawyer (evil legal eagle...) and the "stupid Brit" and the other guy are right. The Queen has entirely theoretical political power and nothing more. If she ever tried to wield it over Parliament there would be uproar.

      Just to clarify, you are wrong, and obnoxious to boot.
    10. Anonymous
      LOL pissed you off did i!
      who says im a brit?
    11. Anonymous
      Oh Mozzer. You know as well as I do that the UK would love nothing more than to close the Ireland chapter in its history.

      Why are the British still in Northern Ireland? The Northern Ireland you sang about in the underrated "This Is Not Your Country"? Because a very large section if that population FEEL and WANT to remain BRITISH.

      You can't just abandon people like that. The results would be catastrophic.

      On a day when the metropolitan police in London are running around looking for explosive devices left by Irish republicans because someone has sent a coded warning, it would be folly to pretend it could be all over if Britain was to leave Northern Ireland and say "there you go!" to Dublin.

      A little secret, Dublin politicians don't want the north. They couldn't cope with the aftermath.

      The Queen may not be your cup of tea, Morrissey. Nor is she mine for I share your numerous reasons against her "reign" (Bearskin hats, anyone?) but her trip to Ireland is a step towards better understanding between the UK and Ireland. She's to lay a wreath in memory of Ireland's war dead. Commendable, isn't it?

      But anyhow, let's just gloss over all that and compare the Queen to Gaddafi and Mubarak, eh?
    12. Anonymous
      Troll Post

      Shut your ridiculous piehole you Dutch cunt.

      The day we ever listen to what you have to say about anything is the day gladioli sprout from your arse and strangle you to death. We'll listen to you then. To your dying whimpers.

      Now go shut up like a good little boy you complete and utter plonk.
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    13. Arse of the world
      Arse of the world
      Be careful Morrissey this is a sensitive issue and you go clodding into it again with your leather shoes on.

      Stirring up the memory of hunger strikers and comparing the queen to Gaddafi is a bit clumsy to say the least. I just wish that sometimes you would express your views without the need to resort to these over emotional hyperboles. Surely you must read some of this shit back and think ooohhh I was a bit harsh or out of order there.

      Things aint always so black and white and oppression often exists on a continuum. You need to mellow out and temper your words with some caution.

      Antagonising is not really very constructive, you are like a petulent teen at times... I mean how old are you?

      I love you... see you at Plymouth and Glastonbury xxx
    14. Johnny Barleycorn
      Johnny Barleycorn
      You don't know what you are talking about, little man. A bit like Morrissey himself, who should also STFU. He's looking rather desperate now. What next? An X-Factor guest appearance?
    15. Anonymous
      Yes, right, I so much do not know what I am talking about that your prime minister David Cameron himself decided to fix one of the issues. It is amazing how many discussions go on in this forum in which Brits discuss constitutional changes going on in the UK. But you are too busy with Manchester United, how to lick the latest penis and some dull band, aren't you?
    16. devout
      "So safely with your software, miles from the front line"

      He wants to take some of his own advice.

      Coded bomb warning in London today, thanks for your input Moz eh.
    17. ravenslament
      last time i heard we had a constitutional monarch which was set forth in the bill of rights 1689 and the act of settlement 1701 which limited the power of the monarchy , even though limited power of the monarchy had stemmed back to the days of the magna carta . todays monarchy is politically neutral and is mainly used for ceremonial reasons - pomp and circumstance in my opinion , but , no bill of parliament can be passed without lizzies say so , governments cannot be dissolved without her being consulted and all members of parliament have to swear an oath to the abomination of her name . so morrissey in effect is right that the queen could help make ireland a united country but only if parliament put a bill for its unification forward first and they are not going to do that because ireland , the province of northern ireland that is , holds the first port of call from the north atlantic and is a source of income for the british government . most of britains unwritten constitution is out dated and heralds back to a time long forgotten , when imperialism was the british way of life and the prejudice against other non protestant religions was the norm . basically ireland is an extension of british imperialism that is basically based on racism and prejudice .

      the royal family are just like parasitic leeches who basically thrive on the media attention that follows their every move . who cares if there is a wedding that took place , looking at recent history - all but one of her madges childrens wedding have ended in divorce . this happens everyday mr and mrs w. eddingplaner are married and mr and mrs e. pissdmeoff are divorced but do they reach worldwide media attention ... me thinks not . in a world where the mass populus are force fed everything by 24/7-365(6) by the world media what do we expect from these meglomaniacs.
    18. Johnny Barleycorn
      Johnny Barleycorn
      Cameron was against the yes to AV, you mooncalf. I assume that is what you are rattling on about, but perhaps not. I'm genuinely embarassed for you, son. I'm thinking of keeping your posts on this subject for the winter. If we get cold we can read them out as a family and save a fortune on our fuel bills. A pound to a pinch of shit you don't even have a passport, so why you consider yourself an expert I'm not sure, but you come across as an imbecile.

      You know nothing apart from what you glean from kneeling at the altar of a sadly fading pop star who recently seems to sense his time in the limelight is fading, hence his "statements" (oh, the bluster, oh, the rampaging ego!) to an increasingly disinterested nation.

      What is interesting - I use the term loosely - about your posts is that it is clear the old adage about a little knowledge being a dangerous thing is true. Any Brit with a modicum of knowledge about their country knows you are winging it, and that you know very little about the subject upon which you have chosen to pontificate. It would be a little like me telling you how excited I am to watch the World Series of Ice Hockey and hope the Packers will beat the Lakers. That's how stupid you sound. That's the depth of your utter, embarrassing, cretinous pig ignorance.

      I support Southampton Football Club, by the way, which as you probably know (from your trailer park in Buttfuck, Arkansas) is at least three miles from Ol' Trafford, perhaps a little more, in the county of Hampsetshire, England, which is in Wales, Scotchland.

      In future I suggest you stick to things you have a cursory knowledge of, such as onanism, or eating whole packs of Twinkies in a single sitting, and leave the talking to the grown-ups.
    19. Johnny Barleycorn
      Johnny Barleycorn
      Is that the same Ireland which gave succour to Hitler during the war? Is it that one? Eire? The only nation ON THE PLANET to send condolences to the German people after the death of the Fuhrer? Is it that one? Is it those cheeky little fascist enabling leprechauns? Bless 'em.

      Eamon de Valera is Hitler's footstool in a previously unseen circle of Hell, and before you get too defensive, Oliver Cromwell is serving the drinks.

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