annabel lee
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the only reaason i think of it as sexual is because of the mention of caligula
yeah that makes sense, i just assumed morrissey was referencing caligula's notoriously violent rather than sexual tendencies ::shrug::
the only reaason i think of it as sexual is because of the mention of caligula
the song is totally sexual
and is the only reason why i watched the dumb porno that penthouse made
with malcom mcDowell, Helen Mirren and Peter oToole in it
Thanks Robby.
You could've said US version of Rocco S.
i was playing this song in the car once and when that came on, my mom said, "MORRISSEY MUST HAVE A PRETTY KINKY GIRLFRIEND!!" i then told her he was celibate, and she decided he was a huge freak. i'm not allowed to play any moz or smiths around my mom anymore.
frankly i think Rocco is awesomeRocco is in a completely different category.
Not that I know anything about this stuff
frankly i think Rocco is awesome
Hahahahahaahahhahaaha.... I think Rocco must hurt terribly... I once saw... nevermind... Hahhahahaahahahaha...
I always that line a bit weird because of the Caligula reference. ' "You've been in the house too long" she said, and I naturally fled" makes me think that 'she' (mother? sister? girlfriend? wife? remember, the song doesn't have to be completely autobiographical, it's a situation many people must have found themselves in!) told him he was useless because he doesn't work and spends all his time in the house, and that he has to find a job (so he found one)...yeah that makes sense, i just assumed morrissey was referencing caligula's notoriously violent rather than sexual tendencies ::shrug::
& his sister was hot
later she became a chief of dectectives...
Has anyone thought that perhaps you analyse these songs a bit too much?
Perhaps Morrissey just chucked a few funny lines together to make a song? Perhaps he was just trying to make you laugh. Perhaps he was just thinking purely in terms of writing a silly pop song. If you think about how quickly the Smiths wrote in those days I don't think every song had some deep meaning. I think quite often Morrissey was just trying to write lyrics that caught people's attention. That didn't mean that all the words had to make narrative sense.
I wasn't addressing it to anyone in particular. I just think there is sometimes a tendency to think everything Morrissey wrote is deep and meaningful whereas to me quite often, especially in The Smiths early days his writing comes across as quite glib and playful and I don't think he ever meant it to be examined for meanings quite so closely. I think quite often he just chucked a few references from his favourite films in and made a few jokes.
No, I don't think that he just chucked a few funny lines together to grab people's attention. No doubt, there are people who do that, but it makes for nonsensical lyrics, and (unless you are purposefully aiming for surrealism) it sounds like a recipe for writing rubbish songs. I don't think we would be fans if The Smiths' lyrics were just some silly puns put together and Morrissey certainly wouldn't be considered a great lyricist. Unless you want to write surrealist lyrics - which Morrissey never did - a song has to have some meaning, or meanings. Not necessarily deep or hidden meanings, just a meaning. People might be sometimes looking for 'deeper' or 'hidden' meanings behind the obvious in Morrissey's lyrics, but that's not what is happening on this thread. As far as I can see, we're just speculating on any possible meaning. If there's an obvious one, I'll be satisfied with it. But saying that he just put some words together that made no sense is really lame. If you did that every time you encountered something you couldn't immediately understand, you'd stop yourself from thinking or analyzing anything. And the rest of the song makes perfect sense, why would that verse be an exception?Has anyone thought that perhaps you analyse these songs a bit too much?
Perhaps Morrissey just chucked a few funny lines together to make a song? Perhaps he was just trying to make you laugh. Perhaps he was just thinking purely in terms of writing a silly pop song. If you think about how quickly the Smiths wrote in those days I don't think every song had some deep meaning. I think quite often Morrissey was just trying to write lyrics that caught people's attention. That didn't mean that all the words had to make narrative sense.
No, I don't think that he just chucked a few funny lines together to grab people's attention. No doubt, there are people who do that, but it makes for nonsensical lyrics, and (unless you are purposefully aiming for surrealism) it sounds like a recipe for writing rubbish songs. I don't think we would be fans if The Smiths' lyrics were just some silly puns put together and Morrissey certainly wouldn't be considered a great lyricist. Unless you want to write surrealist lyrics - which Morrissey never did - a song has to have some meaning, or meanings. Not necessarily deep or hidden meanings, just a meaning. People might be sometimes looking for 'deeper' or 'hidden' meanings behind the obvious in Morrissey's lyrics, but that's not what is happening on this thread. As far as I can see, we're just speculating on any possible meaning. If there's an obvious one, I'll be satisfied with it. But saying that he just put some words together that made no sense is really lame. If you did that every time you encountered something you couldn't immediately understand, you'd stop yourself from thinking or analyzing anything. And the rest of the song makes perfect sense, why would that verse be an exception?
Which Smiths song do you find nonsensical?Well I disagree. I do think he chucked things together sometimes. Consequently some of the early Smiths songs are nonsensical. That doesn't make him a bad lyricist at all, it just makes him a different lyricist to the kind you appreciate. There's nothing "lame" about it.
But then I wondered at the line 'what she asked of me at the end of the day, Caligula would have blushed'? What did she ask of him that he would need to compare it to Caligula? If it's something sexual she wanted - why would she say he spent too much time in the house? Wouldn't she want him to be in the house more if that's what she was after?
"You've been in the house too long," means the girl was telling him that he is sheltered and naive, i.e. he needs to get out more if he was shocked at what she was suggesting.