Dave said:
yer dum
I don't "support" any "murder" in anything I stated. Of course you won't see this or respond to it because you're done with this thread, or at least you were about 6 paragraphs ago.
Let me explain it to you very simply. Your tactics, putting words in other people's mouths and purposely misinterpreting what they say, it works in the sorts of arguments that I would imagine that you typically engage in with your friends but it doesn't work when the things you are stating are written down. You can twist what I wrote until you have wrung any meaning from it but you can't make me appear to say I said something I didn't.
Earlier in the thread you said you had just read the Galloway's latest sicko statements and I certainly did not see you condemn them. Instead you tried to nit-pick someone's statement as if you're oblivious to the context it was meant, and then danced your way into praising Galloway for supposedly being against violence when he said British troops should refuse to fight. Except he's not against violence.
As just one example, here's something he said while touring the Middle East:
"These poor Iraqis - ragged people, with their sandals, with their Kalashnikovs, with the lightest and most basic of weapons - are writing the names of their cities and towns in the stars, with 145 military operations every day....."
Writing names in the stars with their suicide bombing operations! So he doesn't just want British troops to stop fighting. He admires the insurgency and their 145 daily suicide bombings. Those are the people who, for example, strapped explosives to a retarded kid on an Iraqi election day and sent him to blow up voters at polling stations. Pure evil and you don't even see it. I guess it's becoming easier for me to understand how Nazi Germany rose to the point that it took a World War to stop them.
True or false. This country (I'm talking US, but it applies everywhere) would not exist if it were not for "violence".
My problem with the statement that violence solves nothing is that, in this context, it is total hypocrisy. When a member of the government tells you violence is bad, they mean that violence against them is bad. They are all for violence against their enemies, real or imagined.
Here's what was said in the article by Campbell:
Menzies Campbell, the leader of Britain's third-largest political party, the opposition Liberal Democrats, said Galloway's comments risked "providing encouragement" to a would-be assassin.
"No politician, ever, by act, word, or deed, either expressly or by implication, should give any support to the notion that violence might be justified," Campbell said in a statement.
You're attempting to turn this into some general statement about violence never being justified, and you're doing that in order to serve your propaganda. You have the need to try and transform the decent people in Britain into something "worse" than Galloway because they're "hypocrites" and Galloway perhaps excites you? But what Campbell said is that no politician should send signals to potential assasins that murdering Tony Blair would be morally justified. I found that post of yours weird and I was trying to get out of this thread.
I found it odd because you just couldn't bring yourself to say Galloway was twisted for making that statement as an MP. You clearly think he is not twisted. And you play games with Campbell's sensible and sound statement in order to say, "Who are these people to condemn him!" Then you go and create a new thread where you ask if Morrissey is right to want Bush and Blair to be murdered and you have an "open mind" on it.
Was Campbell even for the Iraq war? Probably not. If my memory's correct, that party opposed British involvement in Iraq. But Campbell isn't as "cool" as Gorgeous Galloway, I guess. Campbell's not "hard core" enough. We need a true traitor to Britain, the country we're so ashamed of! You notice I called Campbell a decent person even though I'm assuming Campbell opposed invading Iraq. Galloway's pro-war and on the side of the enemy, and it's curious why so much of the Left finds that endearing. I think I know why but I won't get into it here. Keep flirting with MPs who'd like nothing more than seeing the free world as you know it go down the tubes. You people have never fooled me in your claims of being for peace and love. The "anti-war" Left is committed to one thing and one thing only: Praying each and every day for the worst possible outcome in Iraq.
