yes, i was at that show, and the girl who was trying to get on stage had her skirt almost completely ripped off. people in the audience standing around her were hitting the idiot bouncer trying to get him to let her go. she's a very small girl, and he, of course, was a brute. but she did get onstage, and he got her letter. (yay lulu!!) security had been really rough all night, and arturro and a few other of moz's security staff came over and talked to a few of the bouncers, obviously telling them to cool it, and not be so violent. but i have to say, after going to both of those shows, i think that the whole staff of RCMH were corrupt. i didn't encounter one nice person working there.