bold words coming from the guy with a sun dial for an avatar.
That isn't a sun dial. That is a face within the sun that is featured as the album cover of a compilation album entitled 'John Barleycorn Reborn'. Even if it
was a sundial, though, I don't see how that would reflect either way on the validity of his statement.
Oh, okay. So now I'm a "blind loyalist"? And why is that? Because I kicked horseshit in the eyes of your original statement where you proceeded to try and speak for us all about gripes we've heard a thousand times better from others who pass through these forums? Fairly obvious you're the one who has the chip on his shoulder in this argument. It's not like anyone has come out of the woodwork to support your house of cards theory
I support the majority of his initial statement with the exception of I honestly believe Morrissey isn't faking his favoritism for his last 3 albums. I
know he believes it. He's certainly said it enough times, made enough lists about it, thrown enough fits when he hasn't had a #1 (going as far as to describe 'The Youngest Was The Most Loved' as a sure-fire #1 and a "gift to any label" in a tirade), and fills 1/3 of his setlist with songs from them.
Find me a band or musician -- outside of R.E.M. -- who didn't/doesn't
Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Elvis Costello, Bruce Springsteen, Kate Bush, The Cure, Lou Reed, Björk, Neko Case, Bryan Ferry, Nick Cave, Tom Waits, Aimee Mann, Pearl Jam, Peter Gabriel, Neil Young...all well-known, generally respected artists who are secure enough with their talents, who make the music they want without worrying about their chart positions or if people welcome their work with open arms. Even if I don't like some of their music, I have endless respect for them as being
true artists. These are people who create for the sake of creation whether it nets them a profit or not. As much as Morrissey likes to claim he's an artist, I just don't buy it. An artist would/should care more about their art than the recognition and praise you could get from it.
Morrissey's sole reasoning for NOT having a record contract is, and he's said this himself, he wants to be promoted in the competitive market for optimum success. Really? So his fanbase means so little to him and his "art" means so little to him he'd rather NOT record than become a mature artist not trying to compete in the Pop game with the likes of Jedward, Justin Bieber and Kanye West? If anything, it makes him look even more pathetic by being continually ousted from his precious #1 spot by even worse music.
I liken Morrissey to a misguided high school student who joins the chess team in hope of getting laid.
It won't work for him...when? AFTER his successful 25 year solo career, you mean?
Obviously, he hasn't been surrounded by YES men his entire career...but he's spent most of it kicking people to the curb that were actually beneficial to his sound and success in favor of people who dress how he wants them to dress, eat how he wants them to eat, take the pay he gives them and keep their mouth shut.
Need you look any further than at the oustings of Stephen Street, Alain Whyte, Gary Day, Spencer Cobrin, Mikey Farrell, and Jo Slee?
Nobody said it did. But if you take a look at he attendance of his recent solo shows, I'd say more than a few people are still interested in what he's doing
People are always going to be interested in seeing him live...that has very little, if anything, to do with his newest material or his unreleased material and you know that.
Any yet I'm pretty sure I could find a significant army of people who would be happy to tell you that the stuff you post is rife with bullshit
Present them.
Blah blah blah. The Olympics are over. Move along
What does that have to do with his point of Ray Davies being overshadowed by The Kinks? It directly relates to Morrissey.
Actually, the magnificence of what he did before his solo career is exactly what's enabled him to have a solo career for a quarter century now.
So you're admitting that without being able to continually coast on the reputation of the Smiths he wouldn't have a solo career?
If anyone seems out of touch, it's you...unable to let go of something that happened 25 years ago and missing out on a lot of brilliance that followed, proving Morrissey was no "one-trick pony"
Time and The Smiths have very little to do with it. Quality has everything to do with it...this wasn't a ridiculously prevalent issue until 2006.
but feel free to tell Morrissey the next time you see him that you don't think he has a right to a solo career just because you don't like his solo stuff as opposed to his Smiths stuff. Take a camera with you so you can youtube that exchange for us
That's not what he said. And really, what the f*** would Morrissey do? He wouldn't do shit. He would walk on by and have his hairdresser assure him that 'Art-hounds' is superior to it's Smiths equivalent 'Cemetry Gates' as he massages hot oil up the back of his thighs and buttocks.
Boy, I must have been the only one who read that comment in the Hatful thread and chuckled at what I supposed was complete and utter sarcasm
I agree. He completely missed the point of that post.
His hit rate according to you. He has a hit -- or several hits -- every time he releases an album. Again, you're basing his entire solo career on the last five years or so, which have still seen more than its fair share of successes. Successes even you can't put up an argument against. So stick it
To be fair, you're not looking at it in context.
Quarry - #2 UK Charts. 400,000 copies sold. 'IB,EH' (Whyte) - #3, 'FOTGTD' (Whyte) - #6, 'LMKY' (Whyte) - #8, 'IHFJ' (Whyte) - #10
Ringleader - #1 UK Charts. 250,000 copies sold. 'YHKM' (Tobias) - #3, 'TYWTML' (Tobias) - #14, 'ITFWAW' (Tobias) - #17, 'IJWTSTBH' (Tobias) - #16
Refusal - #3 UK Charts. 88,000 copies sold. 'ITMAAP' (Boorer) - #21, 'SISMS' (Whyte) - #46
Then you have the flop of the 'Greatest Hits' record, the flop of 'Swords', the flop of 'The Very Best Of Morrissey', the flop re-releases of 'Bona Drag', 'Viva Hate', "Everyday Is Like Sunday", "Glamorous Glue", and that awful remix of "Suedehead".
Until recently, Morrissey had not faced Chart failure since 1997. The last 6 records/singles released with his name attached and with his participation have at best made it as high as #42.
So, while he may have experienced what was a career high for him in the last decade, he's also reached a career low...one statistically worse than the one he was in when 'Maladjusted' drove him away for 7 years.
Sooo...I like to lick his arse so much I don't have the balls to say so. Gotcha. Let me try to get my head around that one, Capernicus
That isn't how you spell Copernicus. Not to mention, you'd be better off referencing a philosopher than an astronomer. Just sayin'.
Blah blah blah blah blah, we're done here. Nothing original being said
Did you close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears as you said that?
...yelled Barleycorn as they dragged him kicking and screaming back to his "angry at Morrissey" bubble. Thanks for stopping by
I don't think so.