what's wrong with 'black'?

Discussion in 'General Discussion archive 2000 (read-only)' started by puzzled, Jul 12, 2000.

  1. puzzled

    puzzled Guest

    What's wrong with calling black people black? or white people white? That's what black people and white people call themselves. Morrissey, who now prefers 'African American' (which sounds like recent Tanzanian immigrants to me), has often called black people black.
     
  2. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    I've always wondered...

    > What's wrong with calling black people black? or white people
    > white? That's what black people and white people call
    > themselves. Morrissey, who now prefers 'African American' (which
    > sounds like recent Tanzanian immigrants to me), has often called
    > black people black.

    What can you call them if they are of British nationality?
     
  3. Today's Lesson

    > What can you call them if they are of British nationality?

    Think about it for a minute....if someone is British, they are British. Therefore, you would call them British. I know, it's so difficult intellectually.
     
  4. somnium

    somnium Guest

    > What's wrong with calling black people black? or white people
    > white? That's what black people and white people call
    > themselves. Morrissey, who now prefers 'African American' (which
    > sounds like recent Tanzanian immigrants to me), has often called
    > black people black.

    WELL, I AGREE AND I DO NOT SEE THE TROUBLE ON CALLING BLACK PEOPLE BLACK. WHAT'S THE MATTER??? MAYBE MORRISSEY CAN TELL US, DON'T YOU THINK ???? BEST REGARDS...
     
  5. suzanne

    suzanne Guest

    And here's yours....

    > Think about it for a minute....if someone is British, they are
    > British. Therefore, you would call them British. I know, it's so
    > difficult intellectually.

    "The cops went down in British Harlem and knocked around a few Brits who were minding their own business."

    "He wasn't hired for the job because he was British."

    "John Singleton made another film exploring the problems of being British in modern society."

    BET: British Entertainment Network

    Instead of the "Def-Comedy Jam", it's now called the "Eh, Wot? Comedy Hour."
     
  6. somnium

    somnium Guest

    Re: I've always wondered...

    > What can you call them if they are of British nationality?

    GREAT, SUZANNE !!! GOOD QUESTION. CAN ANYBODY ENLIGHTEN US ??????
     
  7. somnium

    somnium Guest

    Re: Today's Lesson

    > Think about it for a minute....if someone is British, they are
    > British. Therefore, you would call them British. I know, it's so
    > difficult intellectually.

    DIFFICULT INTELLECTUALLY ??? OH PLEASE, YOU MUST BE JOEKING !!!
     
  8. Re: Who Cares?????????

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  9. somnium

    somnium Guest

    Re: Who Cares?????????

    > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzZZZZzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz......

    I NEED TO SAY THAT YOU MUST BE AN UNFEELING PERSON. WHO CARES ???? WELL, ...NOT YOU, OF COURSE.
     
  10. Re: Who Cares?????????

    > I NEED TO SAY THAT YOU MUST BE AN UNFEELING PERSON. WHO CARES
    > ???? WELL, ...NOT YOU, OF COURSE.
    I need to say that you are a tiresome bore. Let me get out my violin. Who really gives a s*hit about the difference between "Black" or "African American?" I am half Mex/White, but I could care less if you call me Hispanic, Caucasian, Mutt, Dickhead, whatever. Don't you know that this whole race issue with Morrissey is SUCH OLD AND BORING news??????
     
  11. somnium

    somnium Guest

    Re: Who Cares?????????

    > I need to say that you are a tiresome bore. Let me get out my
    > violin. Who really gives a s*hit about the difference between
    > "Black" or "African American?" I am half
    > Mex/White, but I could care less if you call me Hispanic,
    > Caucasian, Mutt, Dickhead, whatever. Don't you know that this
    > whole race issue with Morrissey is SUCH OLD AND BORING
    > news??????

    DEAR SHARRON... AND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL VIOLIN, HMMM??? I'M GREEN EYES, BROWN HAIR, AND I REALLY DON'T MIND IF THEY CALL ME WHITE, LATIN OR WHATEVER. I JUST BELIEVE THAT RACISM IS OFTEN IMPORTANT TO BE REJECTED, AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MORRISSEY, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF HE IS OR NOT. WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT, DON'T YOU THINK ???? I'D LOVE TO BE YOUR FRIEND !!!! BEST REGARDS... SOMNIUM
     
  12. Pope Of Mope

    Pope Of Mope Guest

    Re: And here's yours....

    > "John Singleton made another film exploring the problems of
    > being British in modern society."

    Strange thing about that is unless there is more than one John Singleton he's not English.
     
  13. mozpistol

    mozpistol Guest

    Re: I've always wondered...the answer within

    > GREAT, SUZANNE !!! GOOD QUESTION. CAN ANYBODY ENLIGHTEN US
    > ??????
    yes "a pommy bastard"
     
  14. somnium

    somnium Guest

    Re: I've always wondered...the answer within

    > yes "a pommy bastard"

    Wow !!!... This is a Moz Moz world (LOL). Dearest Mozpistol (silly, isn't it?) ... You should save your energies to do something more constructive, and you should know that a sentence is just a sentence, nothing but a sentence. If you want to say something, just be polite and beware with this vulgar language. ... BANG BANG.
     
  15. Cinderelli

    Cinderelli Guest

    Re: what's right with 'white'?

    > What's wrong with calling black people black? or white people
    > white? That's what black people and white people call
    > themselves. Morrissey, who now prefers 'African American' (which
    > sounds like recent Tanzanian immigrants to me), has often called
    > black people black.

    What's wrong with calling everyone either Duncan, Clifford, Bob and/or Mary.

    But on a more serious note, I don't think the problem lies within the actual words themselves it is the why and how they become defining characteristics and the context and instances in which they become predomimantly used.

    For instance White is very often in many situations taken as being the norm, it is rare for a white person to state they are so, where as black is used more frequently, and I feel in many cases making the distinction that someone is black or asian or whatever is actually a euphemism for "not white" or other, not the norm etc...

    So as I have said it's not that using the terms black and white are offensive it is how and why they are, sadly, frequently used.
     
  16. Dirk McNasty

    Dirk McNasty Guest

    Re: what's right with 'white'?
     
  17. Ralph McTell

    Ralph McTell Guest

    Red and Yellow and...

    I'm more of a pink, myself...
     
  18. vivid_blue

    vivid_blue Guest

    I'm a blue in need of a pink! Let's get together!
     
  19. Re: I've always wondered...

    > What can you call them if they are of British nationality?

    You'd probably call them white.

    Unless, of course, they're not.
     
  20. As an aside...

    I think the Bonzo Dog Band summed it up perfectly with their song "Can Blue Men Sing the Whites?".
     
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