> How the f*** does a question about the CD packaging turn into an argument
> about communism.
Ah, just ignore those messages, they were posted by the mental patient.
But I did notice the subject "LoafingOaf is a Fascist," and while that particular message was posted by the mental patient, I must say I have long felt there's a lot of ultra-left-wing McCarthyism, and calling sweet and tender Oafie a nazi is certainly an example of it. = ) Which I only mention because McCarthyism was brought up in another thread......
>Now let's get a few things straight, the packaging is
> more important than whether the title has quotation marks as those
> cardboard gatefold sleeves are shite and in 10 years time when your
> cardboard packaging is f***ed you'll wish your CD came in a proper plastic
> case whereas you probably wont be saying "why no quotation
> marks."
Well, the non-DVD edition will probably be in a jewel case.
Some of those digipak cardboard cases can be pretty cool and some are made out of more durable materials than others. To an artist they offer the chance to do something more creative with the design, and I think it's just a further example that Morrissey is going all-out with this album. But yeah, I have some CDs in such packages that are looking kind of worn and torn. In fact, I accidentally put a little tear on the spine of my T Rex "Electric Warrior" recently. = (
>As for communism, well it doesn't work, has been the cause of
> lots of genocide around the world and the people who have to put up with
> communism seem to have dreadful lives. It always amazes me that people who
> live in the west and enjoy all the benefits of western civilisation will
> talk about how great communism is. Well if you think it's that great f***
> off to North Korea and see how you like having zero civil rights, fools.
> And before you f***ing middle class mummy's boys tell me I'm a facist,
> f*** off and understand that you can be somewhere inbetween. I'm no facist
> but commies are c***s!
For a pretty good book by a left winger attacking the way left-wing intellectuals were soft on communism the the murder of millions of people, see Martin Amis' Koba the Dread: Laughter and the Twenty Million.
To me, anti-communism is the same as anti-fascism, and I think some people have trouble with that because they don't wanna be on the same side as the worst and most excssive of the anti-communists on the right (such as Nixon and Joseph McCarthy). But there's simply no excuse for denying or playing down the evils of Stalin and Mao and Castro. You know what's scary? Just THIS YEAR I read an essay in The Nation by playwright Arthur Miller on his meeting with Castro, and the f***er's biggest concern was that he was being kept up past his bedtime by this unelected commie, but of course he had to stay up late chit-chatting away because Miller thinks that "Castro was mythic by this time, and the prospect of an hour or two with him was something to look forward to."
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040112&c=1&s=miller
Oh, Lord...people like that make me feel so TIRED inside. When will they die?
I'll never understand why so many young people in the West don't similarly feel exhausted by these dinosaurs who can't stop longing for a world in which someone like Castro might have succeeded.
I, on the other hand, rejected the outdated, ultra-left-wing rubbish being pushed on me at college and instead found and embraced my own, new, young, and exciting intellectual heroes. For example, Swedish libertarian Johan Norberg is someone who excites ME. I sure as hell would rather live in the world he would like to see rather than some dreary socialist's hellish utopia. Norberg's even a fan of the Cure and the Sisters of Mercy! Yes, young people of the world, be bold enough to reject what people over 40 have told you. The world is OURS now.
http://www.johannorberg.net/