itll be a lost classic
Does anyone else have trouble keeping track of these anonymous posters? I never know which one I'm arguing with.
Does anyone else have trouble keeping track of these anonymous posters? I never know which one I'm arguing with.
Are there any significant differences? Aren't they all riff-raff, rabble, vermin?
I get what you are saying. I like the album, I do, but he's completely lost touch.
While the songs are good, he has zero inspiration left. Why? Because he has his every whim catered to; he jets to any country he feels like, doesn't leave the house except to go out to dinner with his entourage, and knows nothing about reality. He hasn't for some time and it shows.
But this is what happens to great songwriters. Once they've had money for a few years and no longer have to interact with people on a daily basis, their songs turn to shit.
His new songs are good, but lack the soul his older work did. I got the feeling he just watched the news and then wrote songs because his own life lacks any inspiration. Living in a chalet in Switzerland sipping Veuve by the pool in a $400 shirt is sure nice, but it won't result in any important, touching songs.
ROTT
most who don't like kill uncle haven't seen him on first solo tour with this album , it was still till today,... with just 3 rock-a-billy players pulled out the pub,
his hugest succes, Morrissey Shot is a pic book, but there's at the end some writing. Read!
Therefore I shall always treasure Kill Uncle, and it's not a bad album, I had difficulties with Southpaw, cost me years to like it, after playing it a long time not anymore.
Year of Refusal is a solid album, like Your Arsenal.
Worldpeace I rank under Vauxhall and at the same level as Quarry
'and they say he's mentall'....but I respect your opinion, every human is unique, it would be boring with people with the same opinios and likes...
David Tsjeng is some one I have huge respect for, all the crap he had to take from Morrissey and posters here, he still continues
going on with his site, be thankfull for that, I am..
I get what you are saying. I like the album, I do, but he's completely lost touch.
While the songs are good, he has zero inspiration left. Why? Because he has his every whim catered to; he jets to any country he feels like, doesn't leave the house except to go out to dinner with his entourage, and knows nothing about reality. He hasn't for some time and it shows.
But this is what happens to great songwriters. Once they've had money for a few years and no longer have to interact with people on a daily basis, their songs turn to shit.
His new songs are good, but lack the soul his older work did. I got the feeling he just watched the news and then wrote songs because his own life lacks any inspiration. Living in a chalet in Switzerland sipping Veuve by the pool in a $400 shirt is sure nice, but it won't result in any important, touching songs.
I get the feeling you haven't really paid any real attention to songs like I'm Not a Man, Smiler with Knife, Oboe Concerto, One of Our Own or Forgive Someone (best song of 2014, by anyone). All deeply personal songs. that standout from his catalogue.
No, your opinion seem routine-like. That old standard "established songwriters automatically turn to shit after a while. The older stuff are automatically better."
All of his albums has something to offer. Even lightweight affairs like Kill Uncle gives us stuff like Driving...and Family Line.
And Maladjusted is perhaps the most underrated album of all time. Disliking an emotional, deeply honest and personal record like that, filled with beautiful songs, is to me unfathomable. Silly, even. It's his second best, after Vauxhall.
Agreed. It's so much better than Quarry it hurts.
I agree. I like Quarry, but it's far from being a favorite—and while I don't love ranking very different albums against each other, in my eyes (ears? heart?), WPINOYB leaves Quarry in the dust.
It's also interesting to think about Vauxhall, Quarry, and World Peace (and The Smiths) in the context of them being spaced 10 years apart, something Ghoul did in this poll:
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...album-from-these-albums-spaced-a-decade-apart
I mentioned the ten year rule in the months ahead of the release of World Peace, the album which ruined the thesis, and it is noticeable that the enormous and largely undeserved praise heaped upon World Peace from a select few isn't even bolstered in the poll you link to.
World Peace will not be the great lost Morrissey album, that will be Southpaw, and as it stands Quarry, a work shot through with the sort of genuine brilliance, warmth and wit which was once Morrissey's trademark, looks set to be his last hurrah.
If only he'd fallen under a bus the day after its release today normal people would still be talking of him in hushed, reverential tones, and he could have joined Holly, Hendrix and Lennon trapped in historical aspic forever. Instead we get to witness the unedifying sight of people stretching credulity to a molecular state of slenderness by pretending Art Hounds is any good.
I think it's astonishing that some feel such strong distaste for either album. Each to his own, I suppose, but still.
To not be able to hear the quality in songs like I have forgiven Jesus, Come Back to Camden, All the Lazy Dykes, I'm not a Man, Staircase..., Smiler, Oboe Concerto or Forgive Someone is very hard to fathom. Makes me think there might be something more than honest distaste behind these statements. A desire to be controversial, perhaps. The general nastiness and tastelessness of JB's post just makes me even surer.
I just feel that these are obviously good songs. Stuff that most people would be hardpressed not to like. The music is often times soaring, well composed and atmospheric (or in the case of Staircase - exuberant and pop ingenuity) and the lyrics are personal, honest, heartfelt and filled with lines most people with interest in the written word would appreciate (or in the case of Staircase - just plain funny).
World Peace will not be the great lost Morrissey album, that will be Southpaw, and as it stands Quarry, a work shot through with the sort of genuine brilliance, warmth and wit which was once Morrissey's trademark, looks set to be his last hurrah.