So was Ringleader a flop then?

[Rupert]

I wouldn't trust anything I read in the Daily Express.

I wouldn't read the Daily Express

 

[mspendl828]

Sold more than the Morrissey average and got better reviews on average than Quarry and got to number 1.

Not a flop for Morrissey standards, but if it had been, say, Keane, then it would probably be able to classed as a flop.