Re: London - What really happened
> That is a stupid comment. The fact is, millions of people in the Middle
> East and Afghanistan are on the side of freedom, democracy, and
> civilization, and they are increasingly standing up in the face of the
> Islamic-jihad fascists.
> In Afghanistan and Iraq, they risked their lives to vote in elections. In
> Lebannon they took to the streets against Syrian occupation. Across the
> Middle East they are becoming more vocal. Meanwhile, in the West, there
> are both left wingers and right wingers who are more sympathetic to the
> Islamic-jihad fascists than they are for those in the Muslim world who
> seek freedom, and these Westerners seek to undermine the war on Islamic
> fascism.
people in the middle east went to vote or take to the streets because they want their clan or tribe or whatever you want to call it, on top of the other. in iraq, the shi'ites want to pay back the sunni's, the sunni's still want to have power. Democracy hardly considering they will probably just go to civil war after the West 'pulls' out. Unfortunately, their history isn't going to be that easy to forget. This has nothing to do with right or left, it's just the way it is. Another problem in iraq and afghanistan is cracking down on warlords.
a dessert society is a lot different than say europe or north america (especially since you have countries like Kuwait and Sadi Arabia which are ran by rich families. Democracy hardly). I say yippee for democracy (i'm no fascist), but realize the Middle East is very different for many reasons, you can't just take what works here and force it there through war and imperilism (or more like forcing democracy for the sake of better channeling imperilism and obtaining Western business interests). And it's not even forcing democracy because we currently have no problem with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. it's basically wahtever works in order for us to obtain their 'gold'.
Bottom line...this current strategy is just going to bring chaos for a long time. Many Westerners have this attitude that 'colateral' damage is worth it, but yet when 60 civilians die in a Western country as a result of this war--which apparently we as civilains agreed to according to our leaders--all of a sudden the Westerners can't handle it. Theo, can you handle it? Many people are freaking out over 60 people in London dying. what about the thousands upon thousands of people who died in the Middle East adn continue to die? What if the war is going to get closer and closer to home? Will it still be worth it? Or will it be too close for a Westerner's comfort? What if it won't be so bad for Westerner's? We can't seem to handle 60 people dying, are we to expect people in the Middle East to handle seeing their lovers, brothers, sisters, mother, fathers, daughters and sons dying? How freaking selfish and hypocritical can we Western Society folks get?
End the war...there are other ways of bring democracy to the region, or some kind of system that works for the region considering it's own 'unique' characteristics. our current strategy just gives power to the dictators and al'queidas of the Middle East. For Christ's sake, the Theo's of the world...be rational!!!!
