is this site is full of people that hate Morrissey?

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or is it just full of wannabe critics? it isn't that you have to like everything he does but the way people are expressing their opinions is both "half baked" and "shit".
 
> or is it just full of wannabe critics? it isn't that you have to like
> everything he does but the way people are expressing their opinions is
> both "half baked" and "shit".

Well, you certainly told those dummies!
 
> Well, you certainly told those dummies!

does it bother you that I don't need you to "explain" the new song to me?
 
Another thing...

You are a fan of one of the most critical people in pop music, yet somehow, critics of Morrissey disturb you.

Therefore, it sounds to me like you're exhibiting cult-like tendencies.

I'm critical of everyone in my family, yet I still listen to them.

Like every other human being on this planet, I'm a glutton for punishment.
 
It "bothers" me the way you "write" like an "arsehole".
 
> does it bother you that I don't need you to "explain" the new
> song to me?

No, it bothers me that you do.
 
Re: Another thing...

> You are a fan of one of the most critical people in pop music, yet
> somehow, critics of Morrissey disturb you.

> Therefore, it sounds to me like you're exhibiting cult-like tendencies.

> I'm critical of everyone in my family, yet I still listen to them.

> Like every other human being on this planet, I'm a glutton for punishment.

It isn't criticism that disturbs me. You started out very offensively and I responded and that seems to have bothered you. Here is the part you can't accept: Your opinion means nothing except to yourself and anyone you might be able to convince.

you really like negative characterizations don't you? if nobody questions your adjectives you're half-way there. I'm referring to "cult-like". I just happen to love the music. I don't read the books about Morrissey. There are no posters on my wall. I don't attempt to imitate him, as so many do. That's fine though. It's even sort of cool, it's just not for me. But what I find distrurbing are the fans that have such bitterness towards Morrissey.

Have you read about Mark David Chapman? He didn't hate John Lennon. He was a big fan. He just got it a little twisted, and one reason was because he identified too strongly with Lennon, to the point that he felt he had to kill him to re-establish his own identity. That's my impression anyway based on what I read years ago. My point is that some people aren't too happy with the new song, but they don't take it personally. A lot of the comments I've read seem to be those of people who somehow feel betrayed that Morrissey isn't giving them what they want.

For me hearing the new song made me feel incredibly happy. It gave me a real boost. So it is a little bit disappointing that there are either a lot of people that disagree, or that they are just so vocal. I wish everyone felt like I do when I hear it because it's a great feeling. But it isn't people that don't like it that I have a problem with. It's people calling it "shit" because it certainly isn't shit, or people like you that imagine themselves to be critics, that are going to "explain" the song to us, that repeatedly say "Led Zeppelin" because they have nothing else to say.

The fact is, however uncool it may be to like Led Zeppelin here at this forum, they were incredibly innovative musically and technically, and if the worst you can say is "sounds like Zeppelin", to me that is not such a bad thing.

You mention that you criticize everyone in your family. I hope that you try not to do it in such a condescending way as you have done here. As far as "everyone" being a glutton for punishment, I don't know what you are talking about. You mean the punishment you will endure as you choose to continue to listen to Morrissey's half-baked Led Zeppelin lifts? You have my sympathy.
 
> It "bothers" me the way you "write" like an
> "arsehole".

isn't that special?
 
> or is it just full of wannabe critics? it isn't that you have to like
> everything he does but the way people are expressing their opinions is
> both "half baked" and "shit".

The thing is, it all comes down to taste and I agree with a poster lower down the board who said the tracks shouldnt be leaked/released one by one.

All the songs need to be listened in context with the whole album but if some dont like the album or certain tracks after the official release date,then so what.Morrissey like any artist cant please everyone.
 
> The thing is, it all comes down to taste and I agree with a poster lower
> down the board who said the tracks shouldnt be leaked/released one by one.

> All the songs need to be listened in context with the whole album but if
> some dont like the album or certain tracks after the official release
> date,then so what.Morrissey like any artist cant please everyone.

true, i like the new song - so i am happy.
 
Re: Another thing...

> You are a fan of one of the most critical people in pop music, yet
> somehow, critics of Morrissey disturb you.

> Therefore, it sounds to me like you're exhibiting cult-like tendencies.

> I'm critical of everyone in my family, yet I still listen to them.

> Like every other human being on this planet, I'm a glutton for punishment.

oh arent we all?
 
Re: Another thing...

> It isn't criticism that disturbs me. You started out very offensively and
> I responded and that seems to have bothered you. Here is the part you
> can't accept: Your opinion means nothing except to yourself and anyone you
> might be able to convince.

> you really like negative characterizations don't you? if nobody questions
> your adjectives you're half-way there. I'm referring to
> "cult-like". I just happen to love the music. I don't read the
> books about Morrissey. There are no posters on my wall. I don't attempt to
> imitate him, as so many do. That's fine though. It's even sort of cool,
> it's just not for me. But what I find distrurbing are the fans that have
> such bitterness towards Morrissey.

> Have you read about Mark David Chapman? He didn't hate John Lennon. He was
> a big fan. He just got it a little twisted, and one reason was because he
> identified too strongly with Lennon, to the point that he felt he had to
> kill him to re-establish his own identity. That's my impression anyway
> based on what I read years ago. My point is that some people aren't too
> happy with the new song, but they don't take it personally. A lot of the
> comments I've read seem to be those of people who somehow feel betrayed
> that Morrissey isn't giving them what they want.

> For me hearing the new song made me feel incredibly happy. It gave me a
> real boost. So it is a little bit disappointing that there are either a
> lot of people that disagree, or that they are just so vocal. I wish
> everyone felt like I do when I hear it because it's a great feeling. But
> it isn't people that don't like it that I have a problem with. It's people
> calling it "shit" because it certainly isn't shit, or people
> like you that imagine themselves to be critics, that are going to
> "explain" the song to us, that repeatedly say "Led
> Zeppelin" because they have nothing else to say.

> The fact is, however uncool it may be to like Led Zeppelin here at this
> forum, they were incredibly innovative musically and technically, and if
> the worst you can say is "sounds like Zeppelin", to me that is
> not such a bad thing.

> You mention that you criticize everyone in your family. I hope that you
> try not to do it in such a condescending way as you have done here. As far
> as "everyone" being a glutton for punishment, I don't know what
> you are talking about. You mean the punishment you will endure as you
> choose to continue to listen to Morrissey's half-baked Led Zeppelin lifts?
> You have my sympathy.

Dont worry pie...the worst is if people dont talk about the song at all! People can love it and hate it and say all sorts of fantastic or terrible things about it. Bottom line I have found observing this business is that when no one cares at all to even bring a new song up..that's when it's time for an artist to worry.

Personally, I love the song, and holy cow, I think Tobias just might be talented...There, I said it.
 
Re: Another thing...

> Personally, I love the song, and holy cow, I think Tobias just might be
> talented...There, I said it.

LOL! Sit down, pet. I'll bring you a nice, hot, reviving cuppa.
 
Re: Another thing...

Wow WhyteGrrrl, I was actually thinking the song may have been better if Alain did the music.
 
Re: Another thing...

> Wow WhyteGrrrl, I was actually thinking the song may have been better if
> Alain did the music.

Well doesnt Alain make everything sound better? I just meant I dont think Jesse is HORRID, just that Im impressed that he can write.

The Cat's Mother may have to medicate me now!
 
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> Well doesnt Alain make everything sound better? I just meant I dont think
> Jesse is HORRID, just that Im impressed that he can write.

> The Cat's Mother may have to medicate me now!

*grips Whytegrrl's jaw, pops in a pill and strokes her throat like I'm worming an obstinate kitty*
 
Re: Another thing...

> *grips Whytegrrl's jaw, pops in a pill and strokes her throat like I'm
> worming an obstinate kitty*

Thanks Mum, I'm starting to feel like my old strange self again!
 
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