I have put in many paragraphs so as not to hurt people's eyes.
> Hmm, where do you live?
I live in the North of England, where we are force-fed The Beatles in our daily lives.
> Most people, in this generation, like new bands, more
> underground stuff, (and respect the old stuff), but very few
> claim the Beatles as their personal favorite.
Hardly. If most people in this generation liked underground stuff, then that music would not be underground, it would be mainstream music. And many people in the UK claim the Beatles to be in their favourites.
> Again I ask, where do you live. In the US, the focus is on new
> bands. Obviously not new pop bands, but all the new directions
> that rock, punk, goth, and indie are going in.
I heard that a new Beatles 'Best of' will be released soon. (Don't quote me on this). It is being predicted as going to be one of the best selling albums of all time. Enormous international publicity that will cost God knows how much is hardly focusing on new bands.
> Those who are here, either do it because the Beatles have been
> proven good, which is kinda like what you said above, or that
> the music really means alot to them. To quote Moz, ~It says
> somthing about their lives~
Not over here, from my experience. But experiences can be different.
> It's VERY widespread. But, that goes hand in hand with the
> classical rock revivial that's happening. The Beatles catch more
> general fans, becuase they cover different types of music (pop,
> rock and roll, classic rock, folk). It's easy to hone in on the
> type you like. And, at least toss some respect back to the band
> for creating that. That would account for the "wide
> spread" sucfcess over the years.
But I was mentioning the people who don't decide to hone in on any particular genre of The Beatles music, but feel they should claim The Beatles are their favourite band because 'everybody says so.' People like that don't bother me at all.
> Did you make the point of how the smiths pop was influenced by
> the Beatles, drawing on your knowledge of Smtihs history and
> influences (Moz's Velvet underground influences, Elvis
> influences, Marr's influences)???
I thought the whole point of this thread was if The Smith's were influenced by The Beatles or not. I have told him many times of the influences of his favourite bands with relation to The Smiths, but it falls on deaf ears.
>Or did you just get mad, and then decide to be mad at Beatles fans.
I'm hardly going to be that petty. I'm not mad at any Beatles fans at all. I'm mad at the people who claim to be Beatles fans but have no knowledge of them apart from they've heard on TOTP2 that they're good.
> Yes, but if he's your friend dont you think you should enlighten
> him?
> At least if it bothers you that much.
There is no point forcing him to listen to The Smiths, because he will just become defensive and pick out any faults he could find. I tried ever so hard to make him like The Smiths. But when I let the subject lie he now thinks they're 'actually quite good.' Reverse psychology works every time.
> You know the Smiths are a wonderful band, if someone says that
> they are not, then correct them. You know about the Smiths, and
> their history, most likely more than your firend who (hasnt'
> really heard any of their songs but one and doesn't like
> them)....and we all know how biased a person like that is. So
> enlighten him next time.
I wouldn't be that much of a wanker. I've given him the opportunity to listen and love, but he's turned me down. His loss. But, as a friend I have had to accept that. Why should I force him, or 'enlighten' him to do something when he clearly doesn't want to know?
> ****So, when is Moz putting out the next album???***************
Don't know, but if it's called 'Irish Blood, English Heart' I'm disowning the silly bugger. What a title...
LMC x