"all night chemist" enjoys freshly boiled alive lobster. It's her favorite meal

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Quentin Jon

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Is that acceptable? Isn't that just about the cruelest and most painful death? FOR A MEAL!!!!
No one is THAT hungry!
 
Makes my mouth water

> Is that acceptable? Isn't that just about the cruelest and most painful
> death? FOR A MEAL!!!!
> No one is THAT hungry!

Then you haven't tried the Dublin Lawyer at this restaurant: http://www.nighttowncleveland.com/FoodPhotos.htm

Lobster meat sauteed in cayenne butter w/ mushrooms, scallions, Irish whiskey and cream, served with rice pilaf. Mmmmm.

And, anyway:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,5121764-110650,00.html

Scientists say lobsters feel no pain

David Adam, science correspondent
Tuesday February 8, 2005

Guardian

It is the ethical dilemma that for decades has troubled the rich and aspiring the world over: when you place a live lobster in a pot of boiling water, does it feel pain?
Norwegian scientists were asked to investigate pain, discomfort and stress in invertebrates and claim now to have discovered that the answer is no.

Their conclusion applies also to crabs and to live worms on a fish hook. None of these feel a thing. Which is good news for Norwegian fishermen at least.

Their government was considering a ban on live worms as fish bait under revisions to its animal protection laws - but only if it hurt. Wenche Farstad of the Norwegian School of Veterinary Science in Oslo now says it does not.

"It seems to be only reflex curling when put on the hook. They might sense something but it is not painful and does not compromise their well-being," said Prof Farstad, who chaired the panel that prepared the government report. "The common earthworm has a very simple nervous system. It can be cut in two and continue with its business."

The report looked at welfare implications of everything from cooking live crabs and lobsters to keeping bees. Invertebrates are animals without backbones, covering creatures from insects and spiders to mollusks and crustaceans.

Honeybees deserve special care, Prof Farstad said, because they display social behaviour and a capacity to learn and cooperate. But invertebrates do not feel pain because they have basic nervous systems and small brains.

Peter Fraser, a marine biologist at the University of Aberdeen, says crabs and lobsters have only about 100,000 neurons, compared with 100bn in people and other vertebrates. While this allows them to react to threatening stimuli, he said there is no evidence they feel pain.

Tiny perforations in leg bones allow crabs and lobsters to jettison limbs if trapped by predators. "That doesn't demonstrate whether they feel pain or not, but it does demonstrate they have very different mechanisms," Dr Fraser said. "If we tried to throw off a leg I'd imagine that would be very painful indeed."
 
Thanks for that infoTheo. And I will add...

I am so glad to learn that the trolls have such great memories and are so dedicated to reading every journal entry of mine. Shall I consider them to be loyal fans? Hehe.

Alton Brown, host of Food Networks "Good Eats," just did a show about lobster last night. He stated that a lobster's CNS is very primitive--similar to a cockroach's. He says that one should feel no guiltier killing a lobster than s/he would feel killing a bug. Still, he does suggest placing it in the freezer for fifteen minutes first. This renders "the bug" unconscious and thus it feels nada when steamed.




Good Eats
 
Be sure to save the choicest portions...

for the intrepid viking kitties of Katie's clan: troll hunters extraordinaire.
Go ahead, paste these little norwegian warriors into your journal... and stand back.




vermin, beware!
 
Re: Be sure to save the choicest portions...

> for the intrepid viking kitties of Katie's clan: troll hunters
> extraordinaire.
> Go ahead, paste these little norwegian warriors into your journal... and
> stand back.

That is great. Thanks Cod. I am gonna put that in my journal.
 
Re: Be sure to save the choicest portions...

Lobster is indeed one of the finest dishes known to humankind.
 
Re: Thanks for that infoTheo. And I will add...

> I am so glad to learn that the trolls have such great memories and are so
> dedicated to reading every journal entry of mine. Shall I consider them to
> be loyal fans? Hehe.

> Alton Brown, host of Food Networks "Good Eats," just did a show
> about lobster last night. He stated that a lobster's CNS is very
> primitive--similar to a cockroach's. He says that one should feel no
> guiltier killing a lobster than s/he would feel killing a bug. Still, he
> does suggest placing it in the freezer for fifteen minutes first. This
> renders "the bug" unconscious and thus it feels nada when
> steamed.
Ted On Queer eye says the most humane way is to slit it with a knife right down the middle. Martha leaves them in water with some vodka and cooks them whole.
 
Re: Thanks for that infoTheo. And I will add...

> Ted On Queer eye says the most humane way is to slit it with a knife right
> down the middle. Martha leaves them in water with some vodka and cooks
> them whole.

Yeah, Alton said that the knife method was also very painless. But, he offered the freezer approach for those who are more into an indirect method.

Vodka? Wow, I wonder if this numbs them or is she doing this simply for her own benefit i.e. flavor etc?
 
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