NYC Radio City Music Hall - Horrible Ending

W

Worm

Guest
Given the amount of money most of us paid to see the show, was it too much to ask that he finish the one and only encore, "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out"?

For those who weren't there, a fan attempted to jump onstage during that song and was firmly-- but not outrageously-- kept back by security. Morrissey managed a handshake before angrily denouncing the security and walking off, followed by the band after a quick ending to the song.

I am a fan from "way back when". Since The Smiths, actually, but never mind that. I attended the solo Pauley Pavilion show in 1991 which ended after a handful of songs when Morrissey more or less encouraged the fans to overrun security, which they did, causing a melee that ended the proceedings. That's one of my favorite Morrissey gigs, even though my friends and I had won the wristband ticket lottery and had managed to secure seats in the first twenty rows of the venue. The sudden ending of the set felt great, inspired, spontaneous-- the "teenage riot" that all pop shows ought to be. Who cares if we didn't get our seventeen songs' worth?

His ending the set tonight in the middle of the quintessential Smiths song showed not a concern for the fans, but a heightened, megalomaniac petulance. No irony in those giant letters behind the stage: M O R R I S S E Y. He basks in that iconic image without apology, and apparently thinks he can ruin an encore to make a point. About what? About whom? Are we supposed to derive some satisfaction from booing security? Should we have written bellicose letters to Radio City Music Hall? Come on. I'd like to think most of the fans were booing at Morrissey and his band, as I was.

Never mind that it was unprofessional-- Morrissey's greatness seems to come from his unprofessionalism-- it was disrespectful to the fans, most of whom are all obviously longtime apostles. Of all the Moz gigs I've been to, this ending seemed the most pre-meditated, the most concocted of them all. First sign of trouble, one fan slightly mistreated, and the show's over.

I mean, what-- did he have a cab waiting outside? What a joke. He knew damn well what would happen beforehand, and did nothing to circumvent it by planning with management or security. It's a Morrissey gig-- people try to get onstage. That's what fans have always done. That's what they'll continue to do, albeit in dwindling numbers. I refuse the notion that somehow this is such a surprise to Morrissey that he's still outraged by it to the point of summarily terminating a gig.

And I won't hear about "he always does this" or whatever. That he does it because he cares, or because he's not a robot going through the motions but a sensitive human being. No, I've seen him carry on through incidents much worse than tonight's, and not once a show but several times in the same set.

I don't support artists trotting out all the old "hits" to appease the fans. I don't support artists feeling obliged to "put on a good show" regardless of the circumstances, as if part of some Las Vegas troupe. I just feel this was too much. So against the grain from what he and The Smiths stood for. The person who wrote "What do we get for our trouble and pain?/Whalley Range" and "There's ice on the sink where we bathe" and "We may be covered in rags" is not the man who runs his fans through the ringer with concert tickets and then leaves them all disappointed because of a frankly minor incident in the front row.

Once upon a time the front sections of his gigs were as violent as a sackful of drowning kittens. Now it's a bunch of comatose yuppies and the occasional stage invader who gets physically pulled aside by some burly tough guy-- and that's worthy of sending the entire crowd home gutted? Anything to create drama, I suppose. A concert ending early because a single fan got too passionate still leaves open the idea that the rest of the fans are so passionate that his shows simmer to the point of threat, menace, physical confrontations. That must warm his heart as much as it did when that was actually true-- ten years ago.

I love Morrissey. Love his new album. I didn't stand only for the Smiths songs and sit for his newer stuff, as many did. In fact, I loved versions of his solo material like "Now My Heart Is Full" and "First Of The Gang To Die", to name but two. I cheered it all, wanted to love every moment of the show. And up to the encore, it was wonderful. But something about his truncating "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" speaks volumes about what he has become. Johnny, Mike and Andy would have finished the song, at least-- hell, Gary, Alain, Boz and Spencer would have, and did (for "Everyday Is Like Sunday" on the "Live In Dallas" video, still one of my favorite versions). For him to walk off that stage and have the band cut off the tune was a bloody disgrace, and, though it may mean f*** all to everyone here, I want to voice my disgust. I've survived thick and thin with Morrissey over the last eighteen years but this, finally, has struck a nerve.

All the more telling that it happened during the middle of one of the great, most cherished of all Smiths songs. I'd have been upset if he'd cut off "Tomorrow" or "Hairdresser On Fire" or "Irish Blood, English Heart", but "There Is A Light"...I mean, it's simply appalling. Morrissey has upheld the legacy of The Smiths better than the other three, but, no, despite what he imagines, he has not grown larger than those records. He should have finished the show properly. He owed more to the fans, he owed more to himself, and above all he owed more to the songs.
 
you must have been blind if you missed the way the venue treated its guests. Morrissey was angry. If it bothers you that his emotions may get the best of him sometimes, then . . . well actually i don't know what then. If it bothers you then it bothers you. It doesn't bother me. he would be a totally different person if it didn't bother him--not the morrissey i know. Yeah i feel when he came out on stage he was just looking for the venue staff to annoy him. he has guests in the audience, they could have told him how people were treated on saturday and how no one was able to move up. Or he saw it himself. basically morrissey saw many seats empty up front, no one in the aisles, so common sense told him they were anal about letting people move up. and the force up front he saw for himself. they totally didn't have to rip that woman apart.

the crowd in front of the stage still is exciting--that is at GA shows in new york, or any show in other parts of the country, where you don't find this New York snobbery among some of those in attendance. if he played at hammerstein or roseland the atmosphere is ten times better. he probably will. either there or the apollo. i have a hunch you are the person who keeps on telling people off for trying to get up on stage. telling people how morrissey doesn't like it. how can you ignore the fact and especially waht he said today.
 
that sucks and all, but to be honest, that doesnt mean shit compared to when fans rushed the stage at the greek theatre (during the maladjusted tour) and he ran off like a pussy ESP since the final encore was to be "the queen is dead". I got over that, you can get over this.
 
That sucks. I kinda understand what you are saying, as I have had the same ending a few Moz shows I have seen. I too was at the UCLA show, and I remember the pandamonium and the energy that unleashed when the whole arena surged forward, right as the opening notes of King Leer sounded. It was intense, and violent up in the front, but even though I saw dozens of people getting trampled and crushed, I have to admit, being young and dumb, it was kind of exciting in a strange way. THANK GOD nobody got killed there that night. It would have been an entirely different memory. I think if perhaps he did not leave the stage when he did, that someone probably would have. My question about tonight was did it seem like anything else was going on? As in, did he seem upset about security throughout the whole show, like he has before, or was there maybe a particular person pissing him off that maybe caused him to snap at the end, as he has done before as well. Or was it totally out of the blue?
 
"Yeah i feel when he came out on stage he was just looking for the venue staff to annoy him."

Doesn't that disturb you? If you know, as a performer, that certain conditions are possibly going to ruin a show for thousands of your fans, you do what you can to remedy the situation. Is it too hot? Not enough food vendors? You talk to the management. Bad seating? Belligerent security? You brief the hired muscle on what to expect and how to treat the fans.

One of the reasons I'm pissed off is precisely because this is the second night at the same venue. There was no reason why these issues shouldn't have been dealt with. Morrissey may have shown deep concern for one person in the front row, but what about the thousands of other fans? A conversation at 2:00 P.M. today would have sorted out the whole mess. Instead, at the emotional peak of the show, at the zenith of what has been an amazing comeback, he cuts it off for no good reason, sending thousands of us out into the night scratching our heads, wondering what the hell we just saw.

But, wow, what fireworks when you storm off a stage angrily! Proving that, yes, you are still A Controversial Person.

"i have a hunch you are the person who keeps on telling people off for trying to get up on stage. telling people how morrissey doesn't like it. how can you ignore the fact and especially waht he said today."

I am not that person. In fact, I hate to join the complainers on this board.

But the ending of tonight's show was lame in the extreme. And I absolutely love stage invaders. Love them. My loudest yells and cheers were for the guy who tackled Moz during "Rubber Ring". Early in his solo career, when Morrissey wasn't releasing a lot of material, and wasn't touring, I was enthralled by the "Sister I'm A Poet" Wolverhampton video, and to this day that's what I associate with Morrissey gigs-- a stream of passionate fans paying their loving tributes by crashing into him like pinballs. Wonderful, I say.

But those stage-crashers ought to be sincere. And when there are no stage-crashers, that ought to be sincere too. Tonight just wasn't real. Manufactured conflict: by doing nothing about security Morrissey was just as guilty as if he'd engineering a stage invasion using rejects from the MTV Music Awards.

Hugely disappointing ending that overshadows an otherwise exciting show.

And let's not be too hard on New York, okay? Speaking as a non-New Yorker, I can at least appreciate what this city has meant to punk rock in general and Morrissey in particular. You saw a bunch of snobs; I saw his original fan base now all grown up. I won't lie: the place was fairly dead and I was depressed most of the night by the lethargy of the fans. But looking at the last thirty-odd years, New York audiences-- and of course the artists that have emerged from them-- have an impeccable track record. I say they deserve a pass.
 
How do you know he or his people didn't talk to the venue about security? We don't know what went on behind the scenes.
 
Frankly, it's difficult to disagree with either point of view. Whilst the behaviour of Security during the encore was doubtless fueled by the Rubber Ring incident (which, I'm sorry, I didn't find terribly amusing), I guess Moz must have missed what happened to that guy as he was "escorted" off the stage, or the show could have ended a hell of a lot earlier...

...or maybe he did notice, and this was perhaps why he overreacted to a lesser incident?
 
> Frankly, it's difficult to disagree with either point of view. Whilst the
> behaviour of Security during the encore was doubtless fueled by the Rubber
> Ring incident (which, I'm sorry, I didn't find terribly amusing), I guess
> Moz must have missed what happened to that guy as he was
> "escorted" off the stage, or the show could have ended a hell of
> a lot earlier...

> ...or maybe he did notice, and this was perhaps why he overreacted to a
> lesser incident?
what happened to that guy as he was escorted off the stage? i missed it.
 
I planned a trip to NYC from Minnesota around this concert. I took my son for his 21st birthday. I've been a fan since the Smiths heyday and my son is as least as big a fan. A lot of money-for me at least- to travel that far to see such a boorish, petulant ending was an extreme disappointment. I'm sure Mr. M is proud of himself...
 
Back
Top Bottom