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Petition to be sent to the ticket agencies and eBay

posted by davidt on Monday January 23 2006, @11:00AM
Quarrynight writes:
Please support this petition message board which will be sent to Ebay and the ticket agencies in the hope that this ticketing fiasco can be prevented in the future and in the hope that people will resist purchasing Ebay tickets in order that the prices of them will be forced to come down and to make the act of touting less attractive for future ticket sales.
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  • you can't possibly be serious? good luck with all that....
    VIVAMOZ <[email protected]> -- Monday January 23 2006, @11:05AM (#193574)
    (User #184 Info | http://www.cato.org/)
    blame me! i didn't vote!
  • i'm very impressed with your effort , hope it helps in some way.
    good luck to anyone who couldn't get a ticket.
    hang in there , don't panic.
    Anonymous -- Monday January 23 2006, @11:08AM (#193575)
  • Will defintely sign it, hope it will make a difference.
    shoplifter71 -- Monday January 23 2006, @11:19AM (#193578)
    (User #14228 Info)

  • PetitionOnline.com ? (Score:2, Informative)

    I don't think a forum is the best way to do this...
    Why not through http://www.petitiononline.com/ [petitiononline.com]?

    + Make it more global and post it on other fansites (for all kind of artists), it's not only the problem for Mozzer tickets.

    I would like to help but - as you may have noticed - English is not my mother tongue, so I'm not able to write a very convincing intro...
    Anonymous -- Monday January 23 2006, @11:19AM (#193579)
  • Well sort of!
    His London concert-going fan base is around 15,000 people. That's enough to fill Brixton Academy for three nights but not quite enough to fill Earls Court.
    However, the Palladium is just a 2,000 seater so he's playing to 6,000 people i.e. less than half of those who would want to see him in London.
    The demand was obviously gonna way outstrip supply.
    At Earl's Court the reverse happened and the touts got stung (my friend and I got in for £20 each; face value was £35 each).
    Moz knows roughly the size of his London live audience. By playing to a fraction of it he's gonna create much more of a buzz and the Sunday night at the Palladium thing is inspired. However, the downside is that touts will make a fortune (whether on e-bay or standing outside the venue).
    If he adds two nights at the Brixton Academy, the demand and prices for the Palladium concerts will plummet to cost level.
    Simple as that.
    Maurice
    PS And no I haven't got a ticket! Will probably go to Reading instead just 40 mins from Paddington.
    Anonymous -- Monday January 23 2006, @11:34AM (#193587)
    • Re:it's all Morrissey's fault! by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday January 23 2006, @11:49AM
      • Re:it's all Morrissey's fault! by shoplifter71 (Score:1) Monday January 23 2006, @12:39PM
      • Re:it's all Morrissey's fault! by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday January 23 2006, @01:13PM
        • Sanctuary's been good to Morrissey, he's admitted, and empty seats this year can't be afforded it seems. If there are orchestral instruments and a different type of music, that also would presumably need to be taken into account. If the UK tour is fully booked, it's likely that the next round of shows may include cautiously bigger venues. My impression also is that it might be more important to worry more about customising venues to demand in the US. At least all of us will have the album in a few weeks' time - bring it on!
          goinghome -- Monday January 23 2006, @01:56PM (#193647)
          (User #12673 Info)
          • Re: Moz sells Sanctuary by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday January 23 2006, @04:05PM
            • Re: Moz sells Sanctuary by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday January 23 2006, @05:51PM

            • What about LA? (Score:2, Insightful)

              He has quite a large following there. I went down from Canada for a few of the Wiltern shows, and they were sold out for all 5 nights. I even had to sleep on the pavement in front of the venue to secure a spot up front.
              ProtestSinger -- Monday January 23 2006, @07:09PM (#193711)
              (User #7285 Info)
              .*.* I can smile about it now but at the time it was terrible *.*.
        • Re:it's all Morrissey's fault! by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday January 23 2006, @02:49PM
    • Re:it's all Morrissey's fault! by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday January 23 2006, @03:49PM
  • Great initiative!

    Does anybody know if there will be a European Tour after the UK Tour? If no, I WILL START TO PANIC!
    MattBelgium -- Monday January 23 2006, @11:41AM (#193590)
    (User #15370 Info)

  • Just a thought (Score:2, Interesting)

    An idea I've added to the petition is that ebay refuse to allow the ticket price to go above what the seller paid for it. Thus all tickets would be 'buy it now' items, and it would allow legitimate sellers to continue using the site. For instance, if you've bought tickets to a gig and you discover you can't go, ebay is a good way to sell them on and not get stung by unreliable people.
    If you cap the price, the touts can't make a profit and therefore won't use the website.
    Mozzersgirl -- Monday January 23 2006, @11:42AM (#193591)
    (User #14229 Info)
    "There's more evil in the charts than in an al-Qaeda suggestion box" - Bill Bailey

  • futility (Score:2, Interesting)

    Ebay is pretty much a hands-off sort of organization.

    I read somewhere that JK Rowling had to repeatedly send her lawyers to get Ebay to pull copies of her book with obviously forged signatures, but it was like pulling teeth getting them to do it.
    suzanne -- Monday January 23 2006, @12:01PM (#193602)
    (User #36 Info)
    I scare dead people.
    • Re:futility by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday January 24 2006, @12:46PM
  • with people making ridiculous bids (for millions of pounds)?
    I'm sure this is what happened with Live 8.
    Anonymous -- Monday January 23 2006, @12:14PM (#193608)
  • True Moz' Fans Of The World Unite
    now, tomorrow and always.

    marco, milan-italy
    maccoz -- Monday January 23 2006, @01:10PM (#193628)
    (User #9279 Info)
  • Just fuck about with eBay, bid some ridicolus sums on the tickets. Sabotage it all. I dont give a shit if my 100% positive eBay feedback goes, people will see why!
    GO ON!
    shoplifter71 -- Monday January 23 2006, @01:19PM (#193634)
    (User #14228 Info)
  • Most of the 6000 tickets were purchased by real fans who will go and see Morrissey. A few are available at eBay (50?). So what's the big deal?
    Anonymous -- Monday January 23 2006, @01:47PM (#193643)
  • I think it'll be a little easier to get tickets this friday.
    Aly Panic -- Monday January 23 2006, @01:55PM (#193646)
    (User #12194 Info | http://www.myspace.com/smileytuesdays)
  • Online petitions are, basically, pointless.

    Generally, they get signed by a lot of well meaning people, but essentially they're putting their energy into something that is laughably easy to ignore.

    If you're going to do this, you have to do it properly. For things like this, the internet and email are not the way to go - spam filters will render all such effort pointless with a couple of clicks on the recipient's behalf.

    My advice: dig out the relevant mailing addresses and fax numbers, and hit those. If someone is looking for a fax on the fax machine, and has to wade through 100 faxes of complaint to find it, you'll affect them. Similarly when the relevant people come to open their post in the morning - if 75% of their work mail it is to do with this issue, you'll start getting to them very easily.

    There have been bizarre campaigns where fans of cancelled TV shows have sent fruit to network execs, and their efforts made international news. In this case, you just have to be a bit more imaginitive, I'm afraid.
    lutewhine -- Monday January 23 2006, @03:29PM (#193672)
    (User #10051 Info)
  • all this ebay stuff is rediculous. whoever pays out of their ass for tickets is a moron and deserves it. look at how many tickets are on ebay. check again a few days before the show or the day of. people will be desperate to get rid of them. it's not like these shows are moz's big retirement tour or smiths reunion shows. the demand will die down and tickets will be easy to come by.
    Anonymous -- Monday January 23 2006, @04:50PM (#193689)

  • Response from Ebay (Score:2, Informative)

    I have had a response from Ebay.

    "Hello,

    Thank you for writing to eBay.

    The sale of concert tickets are allowed on eBay UK since we don't have a
    policy that prohibits the sale of them. Please understand that our legal
    team works with various organizations to create our policies. If the
    promoters of this concert are concerned over the resale of these tickets
    on eBay, then they can contact our legal team at the address below:

    eBay (UK) LTD
    UK Legal Dept
    PO Box 9473
    Dublin 15
    Ireland

    Once contacted, I'm sure they can work something out that would satisfy
    all parties involved.

    I hope I have addressed your concerns. Please let me know if you have
    any further questions.

    Regards,

    Garth Butcher
    eBay Community Watch Team"
    Quarrynight -- Monday January 23 2006, @05:33PM (#193697)
    (User #14253 Info | http://www.quarrynight.com/)
  • Get over it....
    mckayinexile -- Tuesday January 24 2006, @02:48AM (#193735)
    (User #15380 Info)
  • Hi everyone. My name is Pablo and I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

    I'm going to Europe in May, and I was about to schedule a trip to London to catch Morrissey's tour... until I realized that it was going to be impossible to get a ticket due to the absurd legislation that permits ticket touting.

    I went to England some years ago, and I was shocked to discover that I had to pay almost eight times the face value of a ticket to get to a concert... (that time it was David Bowie - Earthling tour... face value 17.50... I paid 70!!!)

    I live in a so-called Third World country, famous for its corruption scandals, but the truth is that ticket touting is not a common practice here. Everybody gets their chance of getting tickets at face value, because the promoters only allow the sale of two tickets per person.

    And even when a few merchant bastards attempt to sell tickets at extraordinary prices (namely five times the face value or more), nobody buys them and eventually these prices start to fall.

    Is it possible that we are more civilized than you are?????? I wouldn't want to think so.

    As usual, the real damage is caused to the fans, who have to bear incredible amounts of inconveniences just to watch a show. It's just not right.

    Legislation on this matter will have to change and it's up to the English citizens to make it happen.

    Sign petitions, send e-mails, protest. Do something.

    In the meantime, don't stop the pressure on the promoters and on the companies that condone and encourage ticket touting. They are causing a lot of damage to the fans and to the music. THIS SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.

    Make no mistake about this: TICKET TOUTING IS A FORM OF CORRUPTION AND IT SHOULD BE STOPPED.

    Big hug to all my English friends.
    Pablo.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday January 24 2006, @12:47PM (#193800)

  • Action by Seetickets (Score:2, Interesting)

    Seetickets have cancelled the ticket allocations to several of the tickets that have appeared on Ebay and have resold them at face value. They senior management there have agreed to continue to do this if people bring to their attention tickets which are being sold that were purchased from seetickets.

    Please continue the pressure of the ticket agencies. They will act if they receive enough pressure.
    Quarrynight -- Tuesday January 24 2006, @01:33PM (#193809)
    (User #14253 Info | http://www.quarrynight.com/)
  • i laugh at all you losers complaining about this. if you weren't so damn obsessive the ticket prices wouldn't be so high.

    people have a right to purchase and re-sell tickets and make a few quid. it is the idiotic sycophants who are willing to pay the insane prices who are to blame.

    the best thread on here is the blame morrissey thread. he is the one who signed with a floundering label that can't afford an empty seat or two.

    Anonymous -- Tuesday January 24 2006, @01:59PM (#193815)
    • Re:waaaahhh. by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday January 24 2006, @03:30PM
      • Re:waaaahhh. by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday January 24 2006, @06:47PM

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