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<i>Viva Hate</i> outtakes posted

posted by davidt on Friday July 22 2005, @09:00AM
dreamer posted on the general board (original message) links to the recently circulated "Viva Hate outtakes."

morrissey - viva hate outtakes -

01. please help the cause (demo w moz on vocals).mp3
02. please help the cause (demo with sandie shaw and moz).mp3
03. dial-a-cliche (rough version).mp3
04. hairdress on fire (vini reilly vocals).mp3
05. i know very well how i got my note wrong.mp3
06. dial-a-cliche (morrissey talking at end).mp3
07. dial-a-cliche (wrong key-talking at end).mp3
08. morrissey talking about everyday is like sunday.mp3
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Update: 07/25 15:11 GMT: Mirror sites posted in comments:
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  • this is great.
    and its opened the floodgate!
    thanks to everyone that has decided to share.
    L'Estrange -- Friday July 22 2005, @09:10AM (#172419)
    (User #1939 Info | http://www.morrissey-solo.com/)
    L'Estrange
  • This is the kind of thing we need on The Smiths Boxset -- interesting outtakes ... wouldn't it be cool if Morrissey also released a new box set -- maybe after the release of the upcoming album?
    DavidBeauy <[email protected]> -- Friday July 22 2005, @09:42AM (#172428)
    (User #6009 Info | http://beaurock.net/)
    "When thirteen years old Who dyed his hair gold ? Oh, I know very well, I don't need to be told"

    • Re:Boxset (Score:2, Interesting)

      I totally agree - there are some known outtakes of The Smiths, but i don't think this will happen even if its a 6-disc box (The Smiths, Hatful Of Hollow, Meat Is Murder, Queen Is Dead, Strangeways, Rank - six (sic!) discs) which could contain much more than the original discs.

      A Morrissey rarities box containing the Viva Hate outtakes, the Michael Legge tracks, the Miraval demos and all the songs supposed to be in the attics of Morrissey, EMI and fans would make an interesting disc; maybe we'll finally hear the lost Quarry track, Home Is A Question Mark..
      Stefan Krix -- Friday July 22 2005, @10:18AM (#172439)
      (User #357 Info | http://www.krix-s.de/morrissey.htm)
      • Re:Boxset by flaaktaa (Score:0) Friday July 22 2005, @04:41PM

        • Re:Boxset (Score:2, Informative)

          Michael Legge released a few tracks to the internet in 2001: Striptease With A Difference, Born To Hang, Oh Phoney, and the extended Piccadilly Palare.

          You can find them here. [homestead.com]
          Aaron -- Monday July 25 2005, @05:46AM (#172744)
          (User #238 Info)
    • Take rank ou and put in world still won't listen by stop it stop it stop (Score:0) Tuesday July 26 2005, @05:34AM
  • THank you. This is awesome. Love the Vini Reilly Hairdresser take.
    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @09:47AM (#172429)
  • Three cheer for Dreamer-
    Hip hip-
    KenBarlow -- Friday July 22 2005, @09:51AM (#172431)
    (User #13803 Info)
    There is no such thing in life as Norman
    • Re:Yippee! by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday July 22 2005, @11:24AM
      • Re:Yippee! by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday July 23 2005, @01:44PM
  • These sound so much better than other versions I've had. The Sandie Shaw backups really help a flimsy song like "Please help the cause". I do like it's flimsyness though, and feel It should be released officially. I envy anyone who's hearing it for the first time. It's always great to find a new Morrissey song. Wish there were more to be found. I can't wait for a remastered B-sides collection of Mozz' songs.

    And BOY can Vini Reilly sing. The man's got Golden Pipes !

    -Man of Vision
    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @09:51AM (#172432)
    • Re:Oi !!! by methadone (Score:1) Friday July 22 2005, @01:30PM
    • Re:Oi !!! by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 28 2005, @11:55AM

  • Amazing! (Score:2, Interesting)

    It reminds you of how good a song Dial-A-Cliche actually is. The highlight of side 2, for sure.
    Johan de Witt <[email protected]> -- Friday July 22 2005, @09:55AM (#172433)
    (User #4231 Info)
  • all the songs sound great. thanks for sharing this with us.
    leedoggpimp <[email protected]> -- Friday July 22 2005, @10:00AM (#172434)
    (User #2789 Info | http://www.morrisseymusic.com/)
    True friends stab you in the front.
  • ...that it's Morrissey talking about "Sunday". The accent is just all wrong.
    grlmopz -- Friday July 22 2005, @10:42AM (#172443)
    (User #8206 Info)
  • about track 7...with talking at end.

    I can only hear some bells or something, but I do remember hearing another version where somebody faffs up.

    Am I getting confused?
    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @11:11AM (#172447)
    • Re:Question.. by amysquie (Score:1) Saturday July 23 2005, @05:28AM
    • Re:Question.. by Stan (Score:1) Saturday July 23 2005, @10:13AM

  • well.. (Score:2, Funny)

    I just don't understand why they didn't just get vini reilly to do the vocals for every track on the album!

    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @11:11AM (#172448)
  • Upon hearing DAC in such rare and raw form, I felt as if I was 15 years old again listening and falling in love with Viva Hate. Someone posted that Vinni sounds like William Hung LOL. He does sound awful! How did these tracks surface Dreamer?
    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @11:31AM (#172453)
  • .....thankyou.

    THANKYOU! Worth the 2 hours it took to download on skinnyband.

    Cheers
    Satan accepted mine -- Friday July 22 2005, @12:12PM (#172463)
    (User #14277 Info)
    • so true by xXx_Mrs_Moz_xXx (Score:1) Friday July 22 2005, @01:13PM
  • Thank you for posting these. You have brightened up my day. The Vini Reiley track is hilarious. It could almost be Babyshambles. Thanks again. Reminded me what a glorious album Viva was. I'll never forget going into Woolies in 1987 and seeing it was No.1
    Listed Crime -- Friday July 22 2005, @01:12PM (#172473)
    (User #13801 Info)
  • a lot of fun, thanks for getting this stuff out there. i do have a full version of note wrong with just vini on guitar and morrissey on voice. during the guitar solo, vini hits an obvious wrong note in which both crack up, ending the song. its funnier than vini's take on hairdresser. sadly, i only have it on a cassette (which includes the full broadcast of kroq that introduced my love life). otherwise, i would love to get it out there.
    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @01:56PM (#172480)
  • Bless you.
    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @02:43PM (#172486)
  • And thank you again.

    Maria.
    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @02:55PM (#172490)
  • It's a great treat anytime someone steps forward to share rarities most people may not have. These outtakes are a reminder of how great an album Viva Hate is.

    Thank You.

    This may open the floodgates for anyone else out there who have other rarities. That being said, i've noticed a few comments on other songs available for download elsewhere, though I can't seem to find them. If anyone out there has "A Matter of Opinion" and/or "Fantastic Bird" (which was released on this site a while back) and would like to post these, I along with others to be sure, would appreciate it.

    Once again, thank you dreamer.
    Jim Rome -- Friday July 22 2005, @02:59PM (#172491)
    (User #720 Info | http://www.jimrome.com/)
    ...and how?
    • Dream On by Anonymous (Score:1) Friday July 22 2005, @03:10PM
      • Re:Dream On by Jim Rome (Score:1) Saturday July 23 2005, @02:37AM
  • Does anyone know the origin of this song? Did MOZ write it or is it a cover. The reason I ask is the intro is from the The Supremes song "You Can't hurry love."
    RABMOZZER -- Friday July 22 2005, @03:45PM (#172499)
    (User #10818 Info)
  • I think he just named it "I Know Very Well How I Got My Note Wrong".

    This is actually the version of "I Know Very Well..." with the alternate ending.
    It's supposed to be applause.

    I had the full version of it, as this one seems to start in mid song.
    I can't find it now...

    Also, the real version of "Note Wrong" is pretty easy to come by on P2P programs.
    dallow_bg <[email protected]> -- Friday July 22 2005, @04:05PM (#172504)
    (User #10559 Info | http://www.dolefulorange.com/)
    "All the people I like are those that are dead."
    • Re:note wrong by chrisarclark (Score:1) Friday July 22 2005, @07:57PM
    • Re:note wrong by KenBarlow (Score:1) Saturday July 23 2005, @04:59PM

  • mirror site (Score:1, Informative)

    http://www.irishbloodenglishheart.com
    Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @04:10PM (#172505)
  • I live for days like these. They only come once a year or so, if lucky, but oh how sweet they are. THANK YOU!!!
    MOZ IS GOD -- Friday July 22 2005, @04:33PM (#172510)
    (User #3249 Info | http://www.myspace.com/coldwarspies)
  • Just a quick note to thank Dreamer for these. Its people like you that prove how great Morrissey fans are.

    Thanks a million
    Titchy -- Friday July 22 2005, @04:54PM (#172517)
    (User #12366 Info)
  • I could out-sing Vini Reilly on my way to work.
    veradicere -- Friday July 22 2005, @05:24PM (#172521)
    (User #8315 Info)
  • I've never heard anything so hilarious in my life..Harry Hill is much better than this! Or, possibly my next-door neighbor ;)

    Please stick to instruments only, Vini! :)

    Thanks for this and all of the other wonderful songs, dreamer. It made my day! :)
    girlafraid33 -- Friday July 22 2005, @05:34PM (#172523)
    (User #14185 Info)
  • The madness of Vini Reilly continues to intrigue!
    Anonymous -- Saturday July 23 2005, @05:04AM (#172552)
  • I've got them on Soulseek if anyone hasn't got them yet. Username Troxie.
    Anonymous -- Saturday July 23 2005, @05:07AM (#172553)
  • This is great. Viva viva hate and Vini. The best stuff Morrissey did. Remember how great it was seeing the 12" single for Suedehead (released first) at Tower Records after the Smiths breakup? This album represents the promise of how much greater it could have been if Boz and etc. didn't f*#$ it all up.
    hergle -- Saturday July 23 2005, @09:51AM (#172576)
    (User #12197 Info)
    • Re:xcellent by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday July 23 2005, @09:57AM
      • Re:xcellent by lg (Score:1) Saturday July 23 2005, @01:54PM
        • Re:xcellent by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday July 23 2005, @04:04PM
          • Re:xcellent by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday July 24 2005, @02:27AM
  • Now I know why the Duretti Column didnt make it big.

    Anyway, many thanks this has saved me a packet.
    Jimmy D -- Saturday July 23 2005, @02:24PM (#172603)
    (User #14480 Info)
  • ...see if you can carry a tune in this:

    http://www.andersonmilitaria.com/images/misc/mexwa r/Brass%20Bucket.jpg [andersonmilitaria.com]
    Anonymous -- Saturday July 23 2005, @03:11PM (#172611)
  • Does anyone else find it a bit weird to hear Morrissey saying "Sound!" in an exaggerated comedy Manc accent, and the end of the discussion of Everyday Is Like Sunday? I had to listen back to check I hadn't imagined it.
    Stu Walsh -- Saturday July 23 2005, @04:05PM (#172618)
    (User #2312 Info)
    • Re:"Sound" by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday July 23 2005, @04:07PM
      • Re:"Sound" by borntohang1968 (Score:1) Sunday July 24 2005, @10:15AM
        • Re:"Sound" by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday July 24 2005, @10:47AM
        • Re:"Sound" by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday July 25 2005, @04:35AM
          • Re:"Sound" by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday July 26 2005, @02:23AM
    • Re:"Sound" by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday July 23 2005, @04:12PM
      • Re:"Sound" by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday July 23 2005, @07:18PM
    • Re:"Sound" by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday July 24 2005, @05:41AM
  • fantastic thank you very very very much.
    Anonymous -- Sunday July 24 2005, @04:04AM (#172651)
  • Cheers!
    Vincent <[email protected]> -- Sunday July 24 2005, @05:57AM (#172662)
    (User #1110 Info | http://www.theworldwilllisten.be/)
    Don't rake up my mistakes, I know exactly what they are!
  • THanks to whoever posted these. If anyone has an original CD, could they post the flies in a lossless version (FLAC or SHN?) This would work well as a torrent on Dimeadozen.org or bootleg.co.uk. Cheers
    Anonymous -- Sunday July 24 2005, @09:13AM (#172678)
  • what unreleased studio recordings of Morrissey are out there? not including early demos versions of later released material (like the early versions of "Dial-A-Cliché" here or the early versions of "At Amber" and so on).

    the only ones ihav and am aware of are these:

    Please Help The Cause Against Lonliness
    Striptease With A Difference
    Oh Phoney
    Born To Hang

    are there any others out there or rumoured to exist?
    chrisarclark <[email protected]> -- Sunday July 24 2005, @10:10AM (#172686)
    (User #9259 Info)
    "I'm just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilized and maybe I'll even arrive, maybe I'll even arrive..."
  • I'm not gay or anything but I just love Smiths/Morrisseys music. The music just trancends everything , never seems to get old. I've probably played some of those tunes a thousand times or so.
    zoo -- Sunday July 24 2005, @02:08PM (#172702)
    (User #14484 Info)
    • Re:I'm not gay or anything by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday July 24 2005, @05:33PM
    • stop kidding yourself by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday July 24 2005, @07:20PM
    • Re:I'm not gay or anything!!!??!! by Colette (Score:1) Monday July 25 2005, @12:34PM
      • Re:I'm not gay or anything!!!??!! by zoo (Score:1) Monday July 25 2005, @11:30PM
        • Ok, I'm tempted to not even answer you since I am definitely not your "darlin".. DEAR but, in the interest of educating you, are you sitting comfortably...

          Dr Alfred Kinsey wrote two lengthy research studies on human sexuality in the late 1940s, early 50s which can be seen to have sparked the sexual revolution in teh 1960s. During this time he invented the Kinsey scale, from 0 to 6, 0 being someone who is completely heterosexual and 6 being a person who is completely homosexual. What his study showed was that most people line up somewhere inbetween and that a person who has never had a homoerotic thought or dream for example is quite rare. Also, by the same token a homosexual who has never had a "straight" thought or experience is also very rare. This makes the phrase "I'm not gay or anything" rather redundant, paranoid not to say ignorant. More recent research has shown that women's sexuality changes more fluidly than men but perhaps this is just that they are more open to discussing their lives, we don't know. The film isn't bad if you can stomach Liam Neeson.

          There now, feel more rounded as a person? Someone who runs around saying, "I'm not gay incidentally" is most likely to be accused of being rather confused. You say you are mature but, if you were so you would have realised that such a comment would have resulted in being immediately jumped on by people and you would have used your delete key copiously.

          As for the teapot thing, you're telling me you really don't understand this. Ok, it's a euphemism for gay, as in a gay man standing with one hand on hip and gesturing in a limp wristed way with the other. It's definitely dial-a-cliche time there.

          Sorry for the crappy tone but I have only just got out from under my militant lesbian phase, shaved head etc, so I am still ranting.

          Best
          A
          Colette -- Tuesday July 26 2005, @03:08AM (#172822)
          (User #13384 Info)
          Pleasure for beautiful bodies. Pain for beautiful souls.
  • http://www.tiscali.co.uk/news/newswire.php/news/re uters/2005/07/23/entertainment/formerdoorsdrummerw inssuitagainstbandmates.html&template=/news/templa tes/newswire/news_story_reuters.html
    Anonymous -- Sunday July 24 2005, @05:08PM (#172710)
  • I tagged the MP3 files properly and made a single zip file. You can get the file here - http://www.kontney.com/morrissey.htm -Kyle
    Anonymous -- Sunday July 24 2005, @10:44PM (#172722)
  • "Dial A Cliche" without any added reverb or other studio 'production'. It's just the raw tracking. Including a nice little mistake on the bass in verse 2 that obviously got fixed. That's how studio tracking works - it's all cumulative (sp?) anyway.

    I wish artists would start not only remastering old CDs but REMIXING them. could you imagine "Viva Hate" without all the 80s reverb? It would be even better than it already is!!
    Anonymous -- Monday July 25 2005, @08:12AM (#172751)
  • I just love that song, it truly moves me everytime. It's just such a great tune and full of patient-Moz pathos, the way only he can do it. (Dreamy expression) - I'll just drift back off into my daydream now.......
    Colette -- Monday July 25 2005, @12:38PM (#172786)
    (User #13384 Info)
    Pleasure for beautiful bodies. Pain for beautiful souls.
  • These are great, but how did they get into the public domain? I mean have they been in someone's private collection for years and suddenly they have decided to share? If so, more please! :)

    Agent Provocateur -- Tuesday July 26 2005, @01:04AM (#172817)
    (User #10171 Info)
    "Kiss him? Of course I didn't kiss him, he's ugly!"
    • Re:These by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 28 2005, @03:48PM
      • Re:These by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday August 21 2005, @04:05PM
  • to download the tracks from
    http://www.irishbloodenglishheart.com
    open the link for the track in a new window
    and change the back slash in the address
    to a forward slash and press enter
    Anonymous -- Wednesday July 27 2005, @04:35PM (#172975)
  • http://www.dimeadozen.org/

    If you have account there you can download superb lossless (FLAC) version of the outtakes.
    Anonymous -- Friday July 29 2005, @12:58AM (#173117)
  • These tracks are now being posted in LOSSLESS format on various Bit Torrent sites. Why get shitty MP3's when you can get uncompressed, rich sounding recordings!

    Try www.dimeadozen.org
    mg196 -- Wednesday August 03 2005, @05:40AM (#173677)
    (User #13031 Info)
    GG Allin saved my soul.
  • Thats a lie, you often post there yourself.
    Just wanting to see your name again I take it.
    Anonymous -- Saturday July 23 2005, @05:48AM (#172558)
  • i agree, there too much 'junk' on the discussion board!!

    it seems like a game to everyone who posts there to try and fill as much space as possible with discussion about everything except morrissey or the smiths.

    AND
    the board at the sanctuary site is too full of new people asking questions like 'so morrissey used to be in a band in the 80s?' and 'do you think morrissey is gay?'

    the main page at this site is the only satisfying morrissey discussion i've found online.
    Anonymous -- Saturday July 23 2005, @06:30AM (#172563)
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