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davidt
on Thursday March 31 2005, @11:00AM
An anonymous person writes:
According to www.joydivisioncentral.com,"The Smiths" have been approached to cover a Joy Division song for a CD of cover versions to be released in conjunction with the forthcoming Joy Division film.Listing various other bands, it goes on to say that 'only Kraftwerk are rumoured to have declined'. This JD site seems to be well thought of,but my guess would be that, if true,it is some loose reference to Johnny Marr given his association with Joy Division's Bernard Sumner. The reference can be found towards the bottom of the site's main page,in the Recent Site Updates. Excerpt: 20 Mar While the Control film will have its own Joy Division soundtrack CD, U2, Marilyn Manson, Kraftwerk, The Smiths and Doves have reportedly been approached to record Joy Division covers for a second "inspired by the film" CD. Only Kraftwerk are rumoured to have declined.
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Best case scenario... (Score:0)
Rumor (Score:1, Funny)
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CrAzeeMozGurl
Re:Rumor (Score:2, Funny)
Mr Mike "The Drums" Joyce
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Morrissey and Ian (Score:0)
The Smiths have reportedly been approached... (Score:1)
Maybe it was some different "Smiths"...there is this family down the road from me named Smith. Maybe it was them.
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Yeah, that'll happen.... (Score:1)
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could this be an early april fool? (Score:0)
Its the 80s??? (Score:0)
The Smiths are re united???
I dont believe this could be possible and less thinking of calling themselves as a group
they probably meant (Score:1, Funny)
A more likely scenario (Score:1)
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It will happen (Score:1)
The Smiths will reunite however that will not include Mr. Joyce or Mr. Rourke (although the jury is still out on Rourke). As Morrissey and Marr were responsible for the Smiths output I think it is acceptable and understandable that they could reunite and call themselves the Smiths. In fact if you read into the interviews around the time Moz was defending himself in the courts you will find information to back this up. Marr was the songwriter (and muse?) and Morrissey the poet. I don't think many people dispute that.
So let me ask you this.....
If you had a chance to go see a show billed as "The Smiths" and it consisted of Morrissey, Marr, Gary Day and Deano with Boz filling in all the layers of guitars Johnny used to have a tape back up live.....would you go? I would.
Here's another question. Knowing this would have to be planned years in advance and knowing Marr slipped up and said it during an interview himself is there really any question? Now add Alain leaving upon finding this out to the mix and the big picture comes into focus.
In a world of declining record profits the cash comes from the live shows. They would have been offered millions to do a run of stadiums. Get ready.
I'm not kidding. Mark my words. I want to be able to say I told you so. So very many negative nancies.
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Original point of the post (Score:0)
I'd like to clear up a few facts if I may... (Score:1)
1. Marr did use backing tapes on many occasions to replicate a third or fourth layer of guitars. They were him playing it and parts technically impossible to create with a single support guitarist. They were not lead parts but effects lines. This is a fact guys. I am not saying he cheated anything in any way. He is brilliant and sometimes being brilliant can add a significant complexity to ones creative output. Johnny Marr wrote very complex music.
2. Don't kill the messenger and say I am high (which I am) as an insult. I am merely asking you to look at the facts. As I said Johnny admitted this live in an audio interview that the majority of people from this site heard. He said it himself. Unintentionaly I suspect but perhaps as a pre-marketing bid for the reunion.
3. I never said Joyce and Rourke were not great musicians. What I said was they did not contribute to the Smiths as far as writing music or lyrics. Johnny Marr was the creator of the music the Smiths output which Morrissey wrote to. What I am stating is that Rourke and Joyce had almost zero creative input in the writing process. They were very good live as they should be expected to have been...they are long term session musicians. Very talented ones but not ones crafting the sound of the Smiths that's for sure.
Read what I wrote again and if you intend to post please at least attempt to counter one of my claims. I am going to get a nice "I told you so" from all of this.
Mrs. Cleo
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