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davidt
on Monday October 04 2004, @09:00AM
Requiescant Inpacce writes:
An (admittedly fantastic) new compilation CD from Rough Trade records called 'Rough Trade Shops: Indiepop 1' has rather annoyingly taken three pot-shots at Morrissey within it's accompanying booklet. The booklet features essays by Sean (no surname given) who compiled the CD; The Legend!(a.k.a. Everett True, former NME jounalist and indiepop fanatic); and Matt Hayes, co-founder of Indie label 'Sarah Records'. In Sean's essay he says, completely apropos of nothing; "Also why do we let Morrissey away with spouting potentially inflamatory comments about immigration. Dont give this man column inches.He is a bigot. The world is, of course, for everyone. No borders". This comes out of the blue in an interesting article about his love of 80s Indie records. There's no connection with anything else in his essay. In Everett True's piece he claims; "I never liked it when Indie became codified into a description. In the mid-80s Indie grew to mean 'white middle-class boys playing jangling guitars who own every Smiths album and a couple of early Creation singles'. Later he says; "Us cutie kids, as we sickeningly became known, considered Morrissey a fraud. We knew there was no way he could get up there and sing those words, if he really felt like that". Everett True is a brilliant writer, and tireless champion of alternative music, so it's rather disappointing that he should single out Morrissey for such an attack. Sean, on the other hand,later shoots himself in the self-righteous foot when he writes; "['I Know Someone Who Knows Someone Who Knows Alan McGee Quite Well' by The Pooh Sticks] still makes me laugh out loud to this day, but, then again, so does 'Mind Your Language'". For the uninitiated, 'Mind Your Language' was an excruciatingly racist British sitcom from the late 1970s in which VERY stereotypical foreigners try to learn English, with 'hilarious' results. Anyway, the CD is well worth buying, even if the booklet does make the blood boil.
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Trash Talk (Score:0)
RIP melody maker (and everett true) (Score:0)
it's so great to be an older (38) fan enjoying moz's new success and his increasingly revered body of work, all without dirtying my hands on NME & melody maker.
indie professionals: yuk, keep 'em away!!
Quite pointless (Score:0)
Moz is NOT a bigot, that much is obvious! He has explained the context to 'Bengali In Platforms' and 'The National Front Disco' many times. As to his immigration comments - isn't he entitled to an opinion then? This is just more-politically-correct-than-thou stuff.
Secondly, it hardly matters whether Morrissey meant every word he sang (and I believe he did) - the point is, he stood up for the loner, the outsider, and expressed honest emotions to which we could relate. We were, and are, given a spokesperson who cuts through the bullshit. Morrissey has given us that.
Thirdly, the Smiths were the best indie band of the last thirty years, period. The demographic of their fans is entirely irrelevant, be they working class, middle class or otherwise. Or should we "close our borders" to fans who don't fit the "right-on" indie stereotype. Such cobblers.
a travisty of justice (Score:1, Insightful)
Surnames (Score:1)
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hey honky! (Score:0)
Un-Ambitious Outsiders (Score:0)
Morrissey is a cult hero and a very very intelligent man, this is not to say he is above criticism, however, the comments that were made in this instance are juvenile and smack of jelousy and resentment to me.
Not everybody has to like Moz as a person or enjoy his music, but criticism should be well informed and sensible. None of these comments come any where near that.
On the other hand, I dont know who is more stupid, them for writing it, or me taking time to react to such nonesense.
Rough-Trade ROT (Score:1)
Sean+ Evettte ROT IN HELL you pathetic ignorant TWATS I'm sick of people making their name by putting other people down.
Name a motorway lets hope for a pile up!
Look what MORRISSEY means to Andrea & Bryan (R.I.P.)
ROUGHTRADE should NOT get away with this.
I suggest WE BOYCOTT the cd in RESPECT for OURSELVES and our MAN!
RUSS
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Mind Your Language (Score:0)
It was just a harmless bloody comedy. We didn't have all this pc piffle in the 70's.
See you in court! (Score:1)
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Shoplifters of the world unite... (Score:1)
steal it (or download it).
That'll learn 'em !
(User #11819 Info)
intolerance (Score:1)
(User #778 Info)
bigotry (Score:1)
Yawn. These people are just boring left wing cliches.
(User #778 Info)
Everett True....or false (Score:1)
As someone myself who entrenched himself in 'Indiepop'(and still does, if he's being honest), it's this assertion that True can speak for me, and other Indie-kids, in saying that we all thought Morrissey was fraud that bugs me.
Does he think that members of Jesse Garon & The Desperadoes or The Fizzbombs thought Morrissey was a fraud? If so, how come I saw Andrew from The Desperadoes and Margarita from The Fizzbombs at some of the recent Scottish concerts?
Morrissey seems to have become an easy target for those who wish to indulge in cliqueish snobbery, almost as if some people detest the idea of someone from an independent pop/rock background having anything like a lengthy or succesful career.
Everett True was the biggest champion of Nirvana. If Kurt was still alive and pursuing some kind of major star trip would he berate him in such a fashion?
Quite probably, actually.
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