Pete Doherty: "To Punch Morrissey" - German Weekly "Die Zeit"
posted by davidt on Thursday September 24 2009, @09:00AM

Kewpie sends the link to the post by workingclassface in the forums with link and translation (via Morrissey reddit):

Pete Doherty: "To Punch Morrissey" - German Weekly "Die Zeit"

It seems that Pete Doherty still has some bad feelings against Moz.

“To Punch Morrissey”

http://www.zeit.de/2009/40/Traum-40

The German weekly "Die Zeit" has a section called “I have a dream”, where people talk about their dreams and wishes.

This week, Pete Doherty talks about taking revenge on Morrissey for beeing humiliated by him.

The article starts with Pete talking about his early life - listening to the Smiths and his dream of becoming Morrissey.

I tried to translate the main part:

“Years later I actually met Morrissey, very briefly. My first band The Libertines played for him as opening act. We hardly talked. And then he said to the press some very unkind things about me, concerning my drug addiction, called me a cliché, thought I'd try to do something that would have already done Sid Vicious.

Honestly, with Morrissey's knowledge about drugs you can fill the back of a postage stamp.

Then he did something ugly: After I was expelled from the Libertines, he replaced the New York Dolls-sticker on his lapel with Libertines motifs. He enjoyed my humiliation. I felt hurt.

When I see Morrissey the next time, I would punch him. And when he is lying on the ground, I would give him my hand. I remove the dust from his clothes - and then I would offer him a collaboration as an act of reconciliation.”

 
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Don't see what's so insulting about the lapel pin (Score:0)
When people wear a pin or badge with a group's name, it means they're a fan. I think this article might be a bad translation or something.
Anonymous -- Thursday September 24 2009, @09:51AM (#339556)
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punch him? (Score:3, Funny)
pete doherty couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag, let alone stick one on mozza
andyk -- Thursday September 24 2009, @10:08AM (#339558)
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  • Re:punch him? by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday September 25 2009, @08:35AM
    • Re:punch him? by halfdie (Score:1) Thursday October 01 2009, @02:36PM
      • Re:punch him? by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday October 04 2009, @11:42AM
        This emotional response seems outrageous (Score:4, Insightful)
        I think Pete's anger is out of proportion to the actual occurrences.

        I also think that threatening Morrissey (or any other musician) really is not in Pete's best interest.

        There is a flip-side, however. If an artist knows that a fellow artist or collaborator has a drug problems--then it is best to be supportive however possible. Being supportive shows class.

        Unfortunately, we don't know what support Morrissey may or may not have given Pete. For Pete to cry now seems a bit lame. There seemed to be times when Pete when WAY out of his way to glorify his drug abuse--that is only my opinion.

        Ken
        sycophantic_slag -- Thursday September 24 2009, @10:21AM (#339561)
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        "And I just can't explain/ So I won't even try to."
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        The difference between Moz and PD (Score:0)
        The second will be completely musically forgotten in 10 years. His music is OK, but if it were not for his drug abuses and famous girlfriend, he wouldn't make any frontpage.
        Anonymous -- Thursday September 24 2009, @12:17PM (#339575)
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        Pete Doherty (Score:0)
        I like that man and hope he survives long enough to look back in embarrassment. His propensity for lengthy, detailed fantasies probably got him where he is today.
        Anonymous -- Thursday September 24 2009, @12:31PM (#339577)
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          As fantasies go, (Score:1)
          ...this one is a thoughtfully-composed smidgin of drama. Obviously Morrissey means a lot to him, and he's teasing back.

          "Honestly, with Morrissey's knowledge about drugs you can fill the back of a postage stamp."

          Something like Moz would say himself. Aw, Pete, the pet! Maybe he does want to live this life, after all...
          goinghome -- Thursday September 24 2009, @02:45PM (#339591)
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          where (Score:1)
          did this guy learn to speak english?
          marred -- Thursday September 24 2009, @03:08PM (#339592)
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          • Re:where by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday September 26 2009, @02:44AM
            Morrissey would thrash pete in an instant! (Score:1)
            BUT! I doubt it would ever happen, since Moz is too smart to get (potentially) disease riddled Junkie-blood on himself! That being said, it must be awful when your biggest hero takes you down a peg. Go smoke more crack with your cat Pete.
            (yet another reason for Moz to dislike you!)
            Georgissey -- Thursday September 24 2009, @04:39PM (#339597)
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              Doherty - little shit! (Score:1)
              Doherty - bezdarnost, on dazhe mizinca Mozza ne stoit!
              Camusov -- Thursday September 24 2009, @09:55PM (#339607)
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                Peter Doherty (Score:0, Troll)
                the name is familair

                oh yeah page 1 Sun Lad

                sadly this talented guy, ruines everything with
                his drugsusing [yeah he's clean now 3 times a week,
                shouting on page 1 ]

                He adores Morrissey, he wouldn't dare to do it
                Celibate Cry <vauxhall@mail2uk.com> -- Thursday September 24 2009, @10:00PM (#339608)
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                and the hills are alive with celibate cries
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                Pongo Snodgrass (Score:1, Funny)
                I bet Doherty really smells. Thats sort of rotting food/B.O./wet flannels kind of smell.
                He wouldn't get within a whiff of the quiff. The Prada fragrance would knock him out!
                Anonymous -- Friday September 25 2009, @01:38AM (#339618)
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                Pete (Score:0)
                Does "Pathetic Pete" know how strong Morrissey is?
                He'd kick his druggie ass.
                Good.
                Haha!
                Anonymous -- Friday September 25 2009, @06:54AM (#339627)
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                  Pete Doherty (Score:0)
                  Pete Doherty is an Arse, waste of space, Druggy, hasbeen , whos antics to shock is to detract us away from his talentless unability to be creative in a musical sense.
                  He couldnt fight Sleep.
                  Anonymous -- Friday September 25 2009, @07:31AM (#339628)
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                    Is Pete really off the skag? (Score:1)
                    Bad translation or not, he still sounds like he's on skag. Go away, you little boy.
                    manicboy -- Friday September 25 2009, @07:49AM (#339629)
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                      Oh Please.. (Score:1)
                      this guy does a pretty good job of embarrassing himself. I've seen his crusty face on more gossip blogs than I've heard about his music.
                      ThinkOfMeKindlyLV -- Friday September 25 2009, @08:14AM (#339631)
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                        Moz Attacks!! (Score:1)
                        So many many cliché Morrissey fans here I see unsurprisingly, standing behind theyre beloved Morrissey (e.g their only claim to have the right of criticizing others, this “us and Moz” attitude), that’s the ugly thing with Moz fans, a vulgar hollow arrogance. It must be understood that just because Morrissey has read many a book and can scribble a decent set of lyrics doesn’t mean that he knows everything! Pete Doherty is a brilliant songwriter and essentially his music has real purpose and meaning, he is a poet. But I suppose most of you are ignorant (gasps of disbelief leave the mouths of the Moz party) and the only image you know of P. Doherty is the one the media has painted. I’m a huge admirer of what Moz does too by the way.
                        IRONSOUL -- Friday September 25 2009, @11:01AM (#339641)
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                        • Re:Moz Attacks!! by Nick The Name (Score:1) Friday September 25 2009, @09:13PM
                            Re:Moz Attacks!! (Score:3, Funny)
                            I shall wait for Morrissey to instruct me on how to respond to you..
                            ThinkOfMeKindlyLV -- Saturday September 26 2009, @06:53AM (#339674)
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                              Re:Moz Attacks!! (Score:2, Informative)
                              Well, this is a Morrissey fan-site after all. If I wanted to slag Mozza off Id go to the Pete Whats-His Name site. Now, go bugger yourself sod.
                              Pogue Mahone -- Saturday September 26 2009, @11:45AM (#339684)
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                              • Re:Moz Attacks!! by Anonymous (Score:1) Tuesday September 29 2009, @08:45AM
                            Pete Doherty has BO (Score:0)
                            I've been close to Pete once and indeed he did smell of sweat, stale alcohol and unwashed clothes. He had dirt under his finger nails. He was wearing tarnished cheap old silver jewellery and his fingers were nicotine stained. He looked a right state.

                            Maybe he still thinks William Burroughs junkie style is chic. Well, it's not.

                            This is what Heroin & crack cocaine does to you: It makes you deluded about who you are. Sad sad sad.

                            I hate the idea of a smack-addicted "rock poet". Eauurgh.

                            Anonymous -- Friday September 25 2009, @11:01AM (#339642)
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                              Pete's troubled dreams... (Score:1)
                              "We are such stuff
                              As dreams are made on, and our little life
                              Is rounded with a sleep. Sir, I am vexed.
                              Bear with my weakness. My brain is troubled.
                              Be not disturbed with my infirmity. " ... "and more I will not say"
                              MILVA -- Friday September 25 2009, @11:17AM (#339643)
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                              Trust me. I already lived twice.
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                                And.... (Score:0)
                                breath....!
                                Anonymous -- Friday September 25 2009, @02:01PM (#339648)
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                                  Simple Math (Score:0)
                                  Punch Morrissey = Arturo punches you
                                  Anonymous -- Friday September 25 2009, @03:57PM (#339649)
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                                    Just Say No! (Score:1, Redundant)
                                    It's interesting to see that Morrissey still attracts a straight edge crowd. I thought that goofy sub culture went out in the 90's with Vegetarianism, and prayer.

                                    It seems to be the only puritanical torch that the cardigan wearing Morrissey fans have left. Since the whole celibacy thing become old hat, the only thing that modern Morrissey puritans are left with is the whole matriarchal anti-drug stance.

                                    It's unfortunate. I though the only bright spot in Morrissey's career these days is the shedding of the more self-righteous fans that characterized his early solo years.
                                    Nick The Name -- Friday September 25 2009, @08:55PM (#339654)
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                                    • Re:Just Say No! by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday September 25 2009, @10:08PM
                                      • Re:Just Say No! (Score:2, Funny)
                                        I just have to ask? Is this the same Nick who blew a gasket over Morrissey's bare ass pics? Well at least that is one puritanical torch that you have left. Is that with or without the cardigan?
                                        ThinkOfMeKindlyLV -- Saturday September 26 2009, @09:43AM (#339679)
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                                        • Re:Just Say No! by Nick The Name (Score:1) Sunday September 27 2009, @09:33PM
                                      • Re:Just Say No! by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 29 2009, @06:52AM
                                        Calm Down (Score:1, Insightful)
                                        Pete is not being dead serious here, stop overeacting, can't anyone say one thing about Moz without you all saying there talentless shits compaired to him? or trying to find anything to dig at them about?
                                        I love M, but theres no need to take it so seriously. i bet M won't if he sees it.
                                        Anonymous -- Saturday September 26 2009, @04:13AM (#339670)
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                                          Drugs Make Me Famous (Score:1)
                                          Without drugs pete is nothing...
                                          Daniel Mozzer -- Saturday September 26 2009, @07:51AM (#339675)
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                                            Re:ugh (Score:0)
                                            that's right. Well said!
                                            Anonymous -- Thursday September 24 2009, @09:39AM (#339554)
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                                              Re:ugh (Score:2, Funny)
                                              I bet Morrissey has a wicked right hook.
                                              Pete shouldn't flatter himself so much 'work with him' Pffft, what a fool.
                                              Hello Indie -- Thursday September 24 2009, @12:13PM (#339574)
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                                              What's the matter, boy? Don't you like clowns? Don't we make you laugh? Ain't we fucking funny?!
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                                              • No!... by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday September 25 2009, @12:55PM
                                                • Re:No!... by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday September 25 2009, @12:57PM
                                                • Re:ugh by Nick The Name (Score:1) Friday September 25 2009, @09:00PM
                                                  • Re:ugh by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday September 26 2009, @12:38AM
                                                      Re:ugh (Score:2, Interesting)
                                                      Reminds me of when I was young, and had Morrissey shirts for every day of the week. (going on month!)
                                                      Inevitably... "Hey!!! You know Morrissey's a FAG, don't you?" which was always met with- "Yes. And?" He may be rather masculine at points with his image, but there's no doubt in my mind that he is into men. I appreciate that he'd rather focus on his music and not divulge details of his sex life-(well, aside from lyrically) But I get the feeling that someday he will come out, and much like when Michael Stipe did, it will be met with shrugs and yawns. It sure isn't the 80's anymore where such things were mildly shocking.
                                                      Georgissey -- Saturday September 26 2009, @06:34AM (#339672)
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                                                Morrissey ain't the only celibate one! (Score:1)
                                                What the hell, man. Go out, get some. Don't just write about it from your mother's basement!
                                                Georgissey -- Thursday October 01 2009, @09:30AM (#339767)
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