Who the hell are The Stone Roses?

looks like he has gas. still sexy though.

Hello - here's the countdown (in chart-style reverse order!) from todays NME article on the top 100 albums by British bands. Some of the listing have comments/interviews, so I've appended the appropriate ones. I just can't find the bit where the NME describe how they arrived at this list. As always with these things I think they suffer from the same contemporaneity that others suffer from, like the Arctic Monkeys at number 5.

Best wishes all,

Sk./Peter

100: Derek And Clive - Live
99: Patrick Wolf - Lycanthropy
98: Roots Manuva - Run Com Save Me
97: Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
96: Adam And The Ants - KingsOf The Wild Frontier
95: Julian Cope - Jehovakill
94: The Futureheads - The Futureheads
93: Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets
92: Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory?
91: The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace
90: Supergrass - I Should Coco
89: Blur - Parklife
88: Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman
87: Small Faces - Ogden's Nut Gone Flake
86: George Harrison - All Things Must Pass
85: ABC - The Lexicon Of Love
84: Redskins - Neither Washington Nor Moscow
83: Wire - Pink Flag
82: Happy Mondays - Pills 'N' Thrills And Bellyaches
81: Antony & The Johnsons - I Am A Brid Now
80: Black Sabbath - Paranoid
79: Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
78: Aphex Twin - Slected Ambient Works 85-92
77: The Beta Band - The Three Eps
76: Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time
75: Tricky - Maxinquaye
74: Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
73: Kaiser Chiefs - Employment
72: Joy Division - Closer
71: Buzzcocks - Love Bites
70: Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription
69: Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
68: The Pretty Things - SF Sorrow
67: Coldlay - A Rush Of Blood To The Head
66: Elvis Costello - This Year's Model
65: Radiohead - Kid A
64: Gang Of Four - Entertainment!
63: David Bowie - The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars
62: Saint Etienne - Fox Base Alpha
61: Echo & The Bunnymen - Ocena Rain
60: The Human League - Dare!
59: The Clash - The Clash
58: Suede - Dog Man Star
57:The Cure - Head On The Door
56: Portishead - Portishead
55: Bloc Party - Bloc Party
54: Morrissey - Vauxhall & I
53: The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed
52: Madness - One Step Beyond
51: Billy Bragg - Talking With The Taxman About Poetry
50: The La's - The La's
49: The Who - My Generation
48: Elastica - Elastica
47: The Libertines - The Libertines
46: Pulp - His 'n' Hers
45: The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
44: Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
43: The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street
42: The Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy
41: Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love
40: Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
39: Ride - Nowhere
38: Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
37: Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
36: The Beatles - The Beatles
35: Radiohead - OK Computer
34: The Jam - All Mod Cons
33: Coldplay - Parachutes
32: The Zombies - Odessy And Oracle
31: Massive Attack - Blue Lines
30: Suede - Suede
29: Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II
28: Nick Drake - Bryter Later
27: PJ Harvey - Dry
26: The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow

"It was not even a proper album, merely a collection of single tracks and BBC sessions. But in a year that Black Lace were big, 'Hatful Of Hollow' was a reminder that British music was not in such a bad state of repair after all. The singles and best B-Side ever 'How Soon Is Now?' are unimpeachable, but the raw session versions of tracks such as 'Reel Around The Fountain' reflected the band in their prime and soundtracked an awkward adolescence more adequately than, say, 'Agadoo'"

25: The Kinks - The Village Green Appreciation Society
24: Pet Shop Boys - Please
23: New Order - Technique
22: Super Furry Animals - Radiator
21: Muse - Absolution
20: The Beatles - Rubber Soul
19: The Smiths - Strangeways Here We Com

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The list is ok but Arctic Monkeys entry is just silly and where the fuck are The Pogues???? The greatest british band ever.

were quite a special group around 89-90. They were blessed with a wonderful guitarist, one of the finest drummers of all time, a technically accomplished bass player, and a singer with plenty of charisma but the voice of a wounded ox.

Their early songs are slightly innocent and retro, but there was also a dance-psychedelia crossover element that made them very trendy. Just buy "The Stone Roses" and "Second Coming" and forget all the solo stuff.

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without "meat is murder."

look at his little furled brow, the dapper (as always) threads, the closed eyes, the soft hair ....
and four albums out of a hundred aint bad

Thank you for posting this.

I wonder too, how they compile these lists? These weren't voted in by readers by any chance? I don't suppose someone at NME with a big album collection tosses everything in the air and then whatever order the albums get picked up, that becomes their chart position? Yes, I'm being silly. I just had lunch. Anyway, some great albums listed. Brava to TQID, Strangeways, and HOH! However, Vauxhall should have listed higher and why no Your Arsenal?

Regarding the advert for the concerts, can anyone make out what Morrissey is holding in his left hand? It looks like a black piece of cloth over his thumb. Is his thumb in mourning? I must know the hidden symbolism of this.

For crying out loud, Franz Ferdinand and Artic Monkeys ? No way man.
And where is "A Night At the Opera", "Disintegration", Pornogrpahy", "Low", "Killing Joke" and "Juju" (They have to add some thing from Siouxsie and the Banshees!)

Anyway besides that twas a good list.

Ride is at #39 while the Cure's "The Head On The Door" is at #57... Doesn't an album with a gorgeous song like "A Night Like This" deserve better over aural mush?!? AND the Pogues are nowhere to be found on the list! LAME! Lame lame lame!

the fact that the arctic monkeys is even on that list shows what a freakin joke that rag of a magazine is. Where is Razorlight? As for the list, at least they got the Smith albums right. I would have put on some Belle and Sebastian and Pink Floyd, also whoever said the Pogues is right on too. Thank God I am American.

According to NME writers at the time.

To look at this list, you'd think the Rolling Stones had minimal influence on music. Please!!, "Exile on Mainstreet," "Let it Bleed," "Sticky Fingers" among some of their others changed the world, let alone the music world. That said, the correct list should read:

1. Sex Pistols "Never Mind the Bollocks"
2. The Smiths "The Queen Is Dead"
3. The Clash "London Calling"
4 The Rolling Stones "Exile on Mainstreet"
5. David Bowie "Ziggy Stardust" (tied with)
5. The Clash "The Clash"

really bodes well for the Ringleader artwork. would be great if Moz playing violin was on the front cover. all in all a welcome return to form after the Quarry covers (hopefully).

glad to see Strangeways and Hatful way above Vauxhall. I couldn't believe it when fans voted Vauxhall above Strangeways on this site. Vauxhall is a pleasant-enough album but nothing on it comes remotely close to the utter musical and lyrical genius of Last Night I Dreamt, Paint a Vulgar Picture, Girlfriend or I Won't Share You.

Maurice

Belle & Sebastian is the best british band of the last 10 years.

At least 2 albums should have made the top 20: "If you're feeling sinister" and "The boy with the arab strap".

Oasis at #3??

They are the most overrated UK band ever.

Ridiculous.

I like the Arctic Monkeys too, but putting them on the list is a joke.

Oh thats right I forgot the British music press sucks and they are trying to push their crap on us again. Don't Tread on Me.

Here are few more groups they missed along those lines:

Kajagoogoo
The Nails
Human League
Haircut 100
Naked Eyes
Buggles

I've sung it's merits many a time on the pages of this website, so once again it pains me to see that it has been overlooked in favour of some ephemeral schlock.

What am I talking about? Easy:

WHERE IS "THE SMITHS"???????

The Smith's mercurial debut album is, as far as I am concerned, the greatest and most important(to me at least) album released within the 30-odd years I've been around. NOTHING compares to the life-changing moment when I first heard it in it's entirety, and now, some 22 years after it's release, I seriously doubt that anything ever will. It is the record that changed my life and I will fight it's corner as rock's most magisterial work until the day I die.

Not only do I consider it to be better than 'The Queen Is Dead', but it's a thousand times better than that vastly overrated, flimsy, paper-thin, candy-floss-light nonsense they call 'The Stone Roses'.

"Until the day you die...this is no easy ride"

So the clevers boys at NME can remember records as far back as 10 years ago can they? The rest they have cribbed from their dads record collection and all the usual obvious best of polls..

Where are T Rex's "Electric Warrior' and Brian Eno's "Welcome to the Warm Jets". Both ground breaking and still sounding fresh and exciting today.

The tour ad photo is quite meditative, very pleasing, while Morrissey's presence overpowers the others on the NME cover as if asserting his widespread influence even more than the list suggests: 'the more you ignore me'...

All signs point to a year of fortifying distinction with ROTT.

Christ, not this rubbish again. The NME calling Fall Out Boy emo. I thought running a music magazine meant you was supposed to have some knowledge of music. Apparently not.

And, of course, placing an album that was released 2 days ago in a list of the 'greatest British albums of all time'. It's ludicrous though, having the Arctic Monkeys higher than... The Smiths, Morrissey, Bowie, The Jam, and so forth.

I did like the mention of the Redskins' 'Neither Washington Nor Moscow' album though.

Top tens should never include two Clash records as they were utter shite and anybody who ranks a Pet Shop Boys album above Hatful of Hollow deserves to be stoned to death. And every Smiths album was better than the Stone Roses even if there first album was rather good.

I distinctly remember "Maxinquaye" won 1995 album of the year - Northern Soul wasn't even top 10 as far as I can remember.

How did a great album like Maxinquaye slip so far behind a mediocre album like the verve's? Well, it's because Tricky released a bunch of crap albums and fell out of fashion, while Ashcroft went on to achieve "legendary status" for some peculiar reason. "A Northern Soul" has a few good songs on it - but it's no great achievement and it's not a patch on "A Storm in Heaven" let alone "OK Computer" or some of the other albums below it.

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I suppose it is NME though, I guess we should be impressed that they managed to string a sentence together in process.

Still, putting "Silent Alarm" ahead of "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust"? Not to mention the complete absence of the likes of "Low" and "Station to Station". No Belle & Sebastian? "The Boy With The Arab Strap" and "If You're Feeling Sinister" are both well-deserving of a place. No "Music Has The Right To Children"? These are only a drop in the ocean too. The list leans far too heavily towards newer acts. Fuck The Streets, will anyone really care a few years down the track? Likewise for the Kaiser Chiefs and Coldplay.

its amazing how their 1st album is praised in the UK. here in the US the 1st stone roses album is considered nothing more than a marginal effort with a couple of good songs.

to be quite honest i have never understood why so many people think its so great.

The worst and most unsurprising and unimaginative list of it's type produced. Must be a very slow week for the NME - what chance Moz on the cover next week re all his ticket sales?

Anyway regarding the tour, who is queuing up at the Palace Box Office tomorrow?

...the most influential band of all time (according to NME themselves) ended up at number 2? Plus, Artic Monkeys at number 5 HAHAHAHHA, they really believe in their flavor of the week don't they?!

Whoever composed this list has barely any knowledge of British pop musical history. Oh wait, it was complied by music journalists, that explains it.

...if you ask me. Of course you can always argue about such lists anyway, but I don't mind. Although liking the ROSES quite a lot, at least their early stuff, I've never been too fond of their -or more precisely Squire's- artworks, except for "Made of stone", maybe. Seeing their debut cover artwork on top of the list makes me actually wonder who decided 'bout that. On the other hand seeing JOY DIVISION's "Closer" ranking among the 70s is a miracle to me, as -except for most of THE SMITHS' and JD's backcatalogue of course!- no other record cover to date did capture the album's musical feeling and mood as that one. Shame on thou, NME representatives! Another proof that the NME shouldn't deal with ANYthing Metal related is the factual inclusion of BLACK SABBATH's "Paranoid", because altough I like 'em to death, that one's as crappy as can be. What about "Vol. 4" or especially the debut? ANGEL WITCH's first one also had a killer cover artwork, but I'm getting a little off-topic now. At least I can agree upon "The Queen Is Dead", when it comes to albums, charting highest. Still my all-time fave must be the "This Charming Man" sleeve. That's what I call beautiful packaging!!

"The People who Grinned Themselves to Death" and Gene "Olympian" are two of my alltime favorites. No surprise really because Paul Heaton formerly of The Housemartins and Martin Rossiter of Gene are my two favorite singers not named Morrissey.

the password is tormentors

Is there any way we could do a poll on this site which could create a list of Morrissey-solo user's top 100 albums of all time? Say everyone submits their top ten albums, and the top 100 is compiled from that? Don't know how you'd do it, but the results would be interesting - especially if there'd be any non-Smiths/Moz albums in the top 20!

Why oh why are they in there? And the Artic Monkeys Album is good but it shouldnt be in there its certainly not better then Strangeways or any Smiths album for that matter. Who Compiled that list? This may be baised but i think all the smiths albums should be in it and Your Arsenal,and not hatful of though cos it aint a real album.Should have had some Ian Brown Solo in there eg Unfinished Monkey Business.

It's been noted before in other comments, but, really why is Marc Bolan missing? Even if T Rex were mainly a singles effort, it seems utterly bizarre to leave Electric Warrior off the list. Even The Smiths would probably vote to give up one of their three spaces, yes?

The Libertines are one of my favorite bands ever but they didn't really have to stick both albums on the list, much as I love both of them.

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What shite! Where are 'The Wiggles'? Just kidding. Yes, I know they are from Australia. The Good: Beatles, Smiths, Moz, Oasis, Pulp and Blur. Not so good: More Beatles and Rolling Stones should have been there. I think it's too early to put the Artic Monkeys so high on the list. Coldplay should have placed better. These lists really mean nothing.
thetexasbloke

Nor are the Pogues.