can die for all i care i don't care what he like's their still ill

I have no interest in this at all but at least it moves us forward away from that Morrissey SoLow item.

Oh dear. How dull. No sooner has Cameron become Tory leader than he has instantly switched into electioneering mode. After all, he mustn't upset the right-wing monarchist element of his support base and so naturally, despite TQID being a favourite album, he must disown the title track. In fact, he probably likes it but dare not say. But, quite frankly - is there no more decent news about ROTT or will we have to wait till 2006 for any more information?

If Cameron becomes prime minister, it will be only a matter of time before Morrissey will be offered an OBE or knighthood. The day may come if Jonathan Ross and other modern "stars" of stage and screen are now getting in there. It'd be interesting to know whether he would accept or decline the offer.

Cameron was on-line at the Guardian last year.

Bjorn
"Mr Cameron,
As a fellow fan of the finest pop band the world has ever seen, I'm very interested to know what your favourite smiths songs is?
Do you also ever consider whether your appreciation of fine alternative music is incompatible with being a Conservative politician? "

D Cameron
"hello Basically all the songs on 'The Queen is dead" apart from the first one. I don't think Morrissey and I would agree about a single solitary thing except perhaps that he is a wonderful lyricist. Can you be a conservative and like alternative music? why not - we believe in freedom and anyway, most of the Britpop/ cool Britannia/ Blair supporters have given him up as a bad job. !

link [guardian.co.uk]

the Smiths are so ingrained - and beloved - in England's recent history that it's not a surprise that a politician would admit to being a Smiths fan, if only to look more like the people he's supposed to represent.

this runs akin to '04 Dem candidate Wesley Clark saying he liked hip-hop in order to be hip with the MTV generation.

He's our version of Tony Blair in the mid-90s. Brown vs Cameron in a couple of years it would appear.

Yeah... WE don't want this news.... WE want the new album leaked in mp3 form and we want it now and for free !!!

Sure I'd settle for some short samples for a while, but let's just go ahead make the entire Ringleaders album available for download immediatly !!! For free of course ! Someone out there must have it ! So Come On ! Gimme it Now !

- Man of Vision

(in the UK) Would like to see the Conservatives back in power? because personally i find the prospect of becoming unemployed because of them awful!.

Also it worrys me that a Conservative let alone the leader likes the smiths or could even understand them.

Does anyone think they stand a real chance of getting back into government??

Another snivelling upper class twit who pretends to understand the ordinary masses.

I'm glad to say, the "snories" have shot themselves in the foot once again.

Maybe next time, they'll aim for the head.

SoLow

We won't vote conservative, because we never have!

 

mmmmm?

"i've been dreaming of a time... when the English are sick to death of Labour and Tories...."

where's your blue eyed boy now Mr Cameron...?

(with apologies to e.e.cummings)

In a bid to hoodwink the public the conservative party has spent months researching what would make this toad electable.
His ridiculous claim to enjoy The Smiths/Morrissey was suggested to him some months ago by two of the 'researchers'. A crash course followed. Don't be fooled.
My sister has direct contact with one of those involved. The truth will out.

Funny how he wasn't actually able to name a single song title, sucking up to the queen & getting the 'common people' on his side at the same time, i must admit it's a nice try, but extremely transparent. He'll be rapping his next proposal & getting a myspace page next.

I just hope Tony Blair's blunder with Iraq hasn't left people so disillusioned that they'll start voting for the Tories again. I also hope people remember just what a shambles this country was in when the Conservatives were finally kicked out of power by Labour. Any party that would elect Margaret Thatcher as their representative must be fundamentally misguided. Just my opinion, obviously, we're all entitled to it.

What we need is a new Labour leader, not a right-wing government.
I'll step away from the Persil tub now.

How on earth is it impossible to be conservative and like Morrissey? I've been doing it for years. I don't agree with all of Moz's lyrics, but I love his voice and music. I don't go around w/ a meat is murder shirt, but I do have a Moz shirt (English rose shirt). So, lighten up my liberal pals.

p.s.

And no, I'm not a National Front member.

I seem to remember that the year before Mr Blair got into power he espoused the virtues of, amongst others, the music of the Smiths. (At the Q awards where Noel "I'm no politician" Gallagher said theres only seven people providing hope to the young people in this country. Him and his band of merry men at the time, Alan McGee and Tony Blair! I KID YOU NOT)

As I already suspected though, with Cameron, it sounds like another spin doctoring yarn.... Is it a wolf in sheep's clothing or vice versa?

And I ain't voting for the Tories EVER. (Mind you I'll never vote for Labour as it is now) I rememeber what they did to our sceptred isle and Thatcher's belief in the individual vs society has unfortunatley continued unabated (some would say enhanced) by Blair. As it will if Cameron if ever gets in, as it will if Brown gets in.

Mind you just cos Moz says he's sick to death of Labour and Tories.... well he is right... don't let that dissuade you from taking a pertinent interest in politics. Its fascinating. Honest.

Bluebirds

Freeyourself has smeared so many people and lied, and continues to lie and use the most disgusting abusive language. Someone who uses overtly perverse language calling everyone with whom he disagrees a "child molester" has no right to post on a public board; furthermore he has no right to use "homophobia" to excuse all the perfectly reasonable and reasoned attacks on his person.

Until freyourself learns to behave like a normal person and starts to take the expensive psychoactive medications the NHS provides for him, it is right that he is blocked form this site.

David has done the right thing by those victimised and abused by freeyourself: myself, nonesoever, broken, david tseng himself and Morrissey.

Congratulations for standing up for the more reasonable Morrissey fans against this rather disturbed person who clals himself freeyourself.

Cameron: Change to win
Introduction

"We meet in the shadow of a third consecutive election defeat.

Defeated by a government that has…

…complicated the tax system…

…dumbed down the education system…

…demoralised the health system.

…and bankrupted the pension system.

It's …

…made promises that no-one believes…

…passed powers to a European Union that nobody trusts…

…and set up Regional Assemblies that nobody wants – and nobody ever voted for.

And still we were defeated.

We were defeated by a government that won fewer votes than any in history.

But let's not blame the electoral system. Let's not take comfort in solid, but slow progress. Let's have the courage to say: they've failed, but so have we.

And let's resolve here, at this conference, when we put defeat behind us, failure behind us, to look ourselves in the eye and say: never, ever again.

Why we are Conservatives

I joined this party because I love my country. I love our character. I love our people, our history, our role in the world. This is the only party that understands and is proud of what we've been and who we are.

I joined this party because I believe in freedom. We are the only party believing that if you give people freedom and responsibility, they will grow stronger and society will grow stronger.

I joined this party because I believe in aspiration. This party, the Conservative Party, is the only party that wants everybody to be a somebody, a doer not a done-for.

That's the spirit we have to recapture. I want people to feel good about being a Conservative again.

Education

Aspiration is enabled by education.

How cruelly it is disabled by Labour today.

When one fifth of children leave primary school unable to write properly.

When one million school children play truant each year.

And when the very essence of aspiration – social mobility – is going backward in this country.

There are far fewer children from state schools going to our best universities. And it's getting worse.

What have Labour done?

Created an exam system where sixteen per cent means a pass.

Where parents of children in failing schools have no redress and no way out.

And we're now a country where "failure" is called "deferred success".

The Government introduced the National Literacy strategy. It's a good idea – in fact it was Gillian Shephard's idea.

But why can't children be taught to read with synthetic phonics, a method that works?

Treating every child as if they're the same fails the child who's struggling and the child who's not.

So why can't we have streaming and setting to help all children reach their potential?

We've got to win the great debate about education in this country.

To give choice to parents. Freedom to schools. And to fight for high standards.

We must cast away the progressive theories and the all must have prizes culture that's done so much damage to so many children for so long.

And we must win the battle over education for another vital reason.

Parents with disabled children have to fight for everything.

Just imagine what it's like when the special school that gives their child the love they need, the care they need, the therapy they need, and yes, the education they need…

…when that special school is threatened with closure.

I've seen it, and it breaks my heart.

Labour's idea of compassion is to put every child in the same class in the same school - and call it equality and inclusion.

But I say that's not compassion … it's heartless, it's gutless, and it's got to stop.

That's why a Conservative government will save special schools.

Brown

Everyone knows that education, like our other public services, desperately needs radical reform.

And who's the man standing in the way? Gordon Brown, the great roadblock.

Everyone knows that our ec

you realise that, although Cameron looks the youngest and the most reasonably with-it of all the Tory leaders in the past 40 years, he is just the same as the rest of them (and I really do mean "them" - this is totally a "them and us" situation). Anyone on this site who went to Eton, then Oxford, is married to a Baronet's daughter and can relate to anything this guy is saying, please leave the rest of us lefties to it.

I never, ever will vote for the bloody blues brigade.
x

I hope Andy Rourke sees this!!!!! Sorry those last posts make Andy Rourke look like a charity case or something Andy isn't at all!!!! I am sure Andy Rourke doesn't want my sympathy. Andy Rourke has plenty of money I am sure Andy Rourke is richer than me, probably much richer than me. Because even though I have a really nice rented flat in Manchester!!! I am only on benefits and Andy Rourke knows this!!! My flat is nice though and it is only rented I don't own it I get Housing Benefit. Sometimes it feels good to feel like I am rich even though I know in my heart of hearts I will probably NEVER be as rich as Andy Rourke!!! or even have half the the things he has!!! And of course I will NEVER acheeve all the wonderful things that Andy Rourke has acheeved in Music and his fame!! ANDY ROURKE HAS ACHEEVED SO MUCH IT IS KIND OF MIND BOGGLING I FEEL LIKE NOTHING COMPARED WITH ANDY!! Sometimes my life feels like a very lonely uphill struggle. In my heart of hearts I know I am one of life losers, a misfit. Andy Rourke is my hero, I just want to hug him. I get very, very frightened of rejection and it makes my feel scared I am so frightened Andy Rourke will reject me it gets me all sick inside sometimes I have thrown up with nerves before I see one of Andy Rourke's gigs or DJ things I think it does get me a bit stressed, sometimes I act up and get thrown out of Andy Rourke's events like I got banned from 'South' I am never allowed in that place again or Turnmills in London and it just confirms to me what a stupid stupid nothing loser I am!!!!!! Most of the time I never go out and I am so shy like you wouldn't believe!! but it is like something comes over me and I act out of caracter when I am at Andy Rourke's things. Andy Rourke knows that I am shy because when I first met him I only talked in a wisper he probably couldn't hear me that well. Before I met Andy Rourke I used to put my hand in front of my face all the time when I met people because I always thought they wanted to hit me I had anixity about people hitting me or punching in the face. I have come on a long way and I have loads more confidence now all thanks to Andy Rourke. I just want to please Andy Rourke so much. Andy Rourke is cool. Andy Rourke is a very, very good man THE BEST!!! I love him.
I feel a bit ill at the moment I have a flu thing nothing serious.

"The party which brought you Margaret (on the Guillotine)..."

now, what David meant of course was the party that was once led by Ms. Thatcher. no one has as yet brought Margaret on the guillotine- yet.

Thatcher is ill

Bloody hell, what`s the fuss over this. I`m flattered that someone from one of the major parties even mentions Morrissey in the same breathe as British Politics. I`ve been drawn to the Tory`s just recently. We need a party that is going to lay down a few ground rules and actually govern us. I grew up under Thatcher and it was horrible, but guess what? Labour is worse. They pretend to beon our side when they are not. They are the party of pretending that everything that happens is somehow our fault. Give them autonomy-because that`s what they`ve got anyway. Let them take the blame. Let the rulers rule. And I believe that the tories will make quite a good job of it. firstodie

Oh, I hate the Tories! How can he claim to like 'the Queen is Dead'? How can he claim to like The Smiths at all? Oh, just sod off you prat! I sinerely hope he doesn't become PM, because that would mean the Tories were in power once again. Ok, so tony & Co. are a bunch of knobbers, but the Tories?

Where did I put that cyanide capsule?

The man's leader of the party that brought us Clause 28, lest we forget....

When William Hague was booted out of his position as leader of the Bories, satirical news quiz "Have I Got News For You" showed a montage of photos of The Haguester while playing "William, It Was Really Nothing"....

How we laughed.

This is a fine site. A wonderful testimony to Morrissey and Moz fan-dom.

I also want to applaud you for kindly banning freeyourself from using this site from home, as so many of us requested.

Once again, mr t shows why he is considered such a gentleman and a fine addition to the world of morrissey.

This site was an oasis in the desert of the post maladjusted years. Thank you to david for spending inordinate amounts of time keeping us upto date with Morrissey and for providing this excellent forum for us fans.

Thanks once again for barring freeyourself. The thought of him begging his public library for extra time to respond to our insults is worth every grey moment of reading his moronic and childish responses!

Good Lord....

That is quite possibly the funniest post I have ever read on this site... I have no idea who that person was and why he is so angry, but somebody sign him up to do radio - priceless

that way we won't have to read his crap

I want to go on the record as saying I think freeyourself is beyond criticism on this site. If you look at the content of his oft witty and insightful comments, he is up there among the most eminent members of this community.

His picture is that of a graceful gay man in his late 40s. What's wrong with it? He looks fashionable and his own man. What more could a man want?

Freeyourself never initiates these petty squabbles as they are beneath him. He is no angel, and will respond if provoked, like a tarantula. Nobody can survive the poison of freeyourself's caustic wit.

His worldview is original and different. Is that a crime? Guilty as charged.

Now about all this homophobia...

Just because freeyourself is overweight and gay, does that give you the right to smear him with your salacious lies? Of course it doesn't.

Overweight gay men are the sexiest gay men in my book.

With his penetrating wit, astonishing originality, debonair good looks and frankly delightful aroma of perfumed - subtley perfumed - raging heterosexual manmeat, any gay man would be HONOURED to call freeyourself a partner, to love and cherish him, listen to his Smiths records, bath his mother at weekends, change his colostomy bag, laugh at his jokes and generally tell him his bum doesn't look fat in those leggins.

What a dude.