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davidt
on Thursday June 02 2005, @10:00AM
Link posted on general board by deborarobed (original post):
Travis fill Mozza's boots - BBC - 6 Music Excerpt: John Giddings of festival promoters Solo he's got signed statements to prove the singer had agreed to play, but that either way, he's never welcome at the festival again. He told 6 Music: "I wouldn't even invite him round for a cup of tea. It's just truly sad that he can let people down like that without a care. Because if I called him up with two weeks to go and said 'I don't want you here' they would probably put me in a court of law, you know?" --- Belligerent Ghoul also sends the link: Travis replace Morrissey at Isle Of Wight - NME.com
TRAVIS have been revealed as the replacement for MORRISSEY at this year’s ISLE OF WIGHT FESTIVAL.
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ouch! (Score:0)
Signed statements by who? (Score:0)
My Early Forgery Years (Score:2, Funny)
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Da Law... (Score:1)
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Re:Da Law... (Score:2, Interesting)
Sk.
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Re:Though... (Score:2, Funny)
I suspect the main expense they've incurred is the hastle of trying to find a replacement in time. I use the word 'replacement' in its very loosest sense, naturally.
Oh, unless they've already bought the tea and biscuits for on Morrissey's rider, then I guess there's that...
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buisness entity is an expense (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:buisness entity is an expense (Score:2, Insightful)
Morrissey and Sanctuary have actually had the least damage done to them...thats a fact. Morrissey will sell records because his songs are great, this may even add to his enigma. Sanctuary is the largest label in the world right now, hardly a bead of sweat on their brow.
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what i'll bet happened (Score:2, Interesting)
They tried to get in contact with morrissey, who in turn never returned their phone calls.
The person at Sanctuary went ahead and signed the deal because they thought that this was an excellent marketing opportunity and IOW needed an answer soon.
Morrissey still never really got in contact with either of them. He sent a note to Janice Long, and that was about it.
It doesn't appear that Morrissey ever tried to get in contact with the festival organizers and tell them that there was a mistake. He left it strictly up to his label to contend with, and either they didn't know or were too embarrassed to come forward to turn around and cancel it.
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Re:what i'll bet happened (Score:2, Interesting)
i'll bet the vast majority of appearances he made last year were cemented without his direct involvement because that's the sort of things that managers are supposed to take care of. sure, he never actually agreed to play Japan, but i'll bet the majority of gigs that he ended up playing were handled the exact same way. other people act as his agents and sign the papers on his behalf which allows him to free up his time to go tour and promote his album.
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Re:what i'll bet happened (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm sure they know Morrissey would fight them to death if they wronged him in anyway.
It will be interesting on who sues who first - Breach of Contract vs Unlawful Agent Representation. Sounds like a barn burner so put on the coffee.
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Houston... (Score:0, Redundant)
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grumble guts (Score:0)
"we are not commenting on anything about HIM at the moment"
now i've seen the rest of the bill (Score:2, Insightful)
the promoter is well aware (as are all the above) of the buzz generated by having moz on your bill - he's the pivot shining his charisma on the old once-interesting-now-boring bands (roxy, davies, REM) and the new boring-before-they-even-began bands. i bet solo wouldn't have been half as angry if any of the above had cancelled (including REM)
if i'd bought a ticket i'd sell it for a fiver rather than travel to endure that lot. sorry if you're going, have a good weekend!
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Leaps of logic! (Score:0, Redundant)
"A first grade teacher collected well known proverbs. She gave each child in her class the first half of a proverb and asked them to come up with the remainder of the proverb. It's hard to believe these were actually done by first graders. Their insight may surprise you. While reading these keep in mind that these are first graders... "6" year-olds, because the last one is classic!
Better to be safe than........punch a 5th grader.
Strike while the....................bug is close.
It's always darkest before...............Daylight Saving Time.
Never underestimate the power of........termites.
You can lead a horse to water but...........how?
Don't bite the hand that.............looks dirty.
No news is.......................impossible.
A miss is as good as a...................Mr.
You can't teach an old dog new.............math.
If you lie down with dogs, you'll...........stink in the morning.
Love all, trust........................me.
The pen is mightier than the.............pigs.
An idle mind is...........the best way to relax.
Where there's smoke there's...........pollution.
Happy the bride who........gets all the presents.
A penny saved is.....................not much.
Two's company, three's..........the Musketeers.
Don't put off till tomorrow what..............you put on to go to bed.
Laugh and the whole world laughs with you, cry and.......you have to blow your nose.
There are none so blind as.....Stevie Wonder.
Children should be seen and not.............spanked or grounded.
If at first you don't succeed..................get new batteries.
You get out of something only what you........see in the picture on the box.
When the blind leadeth the blind.............get out of the way.
And the favourite:
Better late than....................pregnant!!!!"
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Re:Leaps of logic! (Score:2, Funny)
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Ah, it's just kinda sad really (Score:1)
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And the headliner is .....Travis? (Score:1, Interesting)
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Does Moz still like Travis? (Score:1)
With Roxy Music also playing perhaps he'll be on e-bay trying to get a ticket.
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John Giddings appears genuine enough to me (Score:0)
That's what I'd have done.
Devious Bastard that I am.
Come on... (Score:0)
But who exactly is at fault? I'd say all three. Think about it:
IOW for promoting the hell out of it without having confirmation from the mouth or pen of Moz.
Sanctuary for signing the deal without clear written approval from Morrissey.
Morrissey himself for not siccing lawyers to stop the whole thing before people bought their plane tickets from all over the globe to see him live.
Of course, this is all assuming there is some proof he agreed to play in the first place.
who cares who is at fault? (Score:0)
Frankly if he's screwed everyone about, I couldn't care less. As long as the next album's good.
broken
look forward to a "sorrow will come..." durge (Score:1)
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stocks in postcard companies skyrocket (Score:2, Funny)
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Storm in a teacup?! (Score:2, Funny)
I reckon when he realizes in the calm light of day that the cause of the communication breakdown lies elsewhere, that he’d be glad, on the off-chance, to boil the kettle for a nice civil pot of Ceylon, served in best china to the last of the famous international playboys!
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All very sad. (Score:0, Redundant)
As sad as it gets.
stop crying and tell him yourself! (Score:0)
Morrissey's email:
[email protected]
Another example of Industry strong arming (Score:5, Interesting)
Don Henley (of the Eagles) testified:
"There was an incident not too long ago involving my manager and one of the other artists that he manages, and Clear Channel Entertainment. This artist was asked to do a promotional concert for Clear Channel Entertainment. She had done a couple of these things before. She declined in this instance, for very good reason. She was in the studio, trying to finish an album on deadline. The record label was breathing down her neck and she declined to play this promotional concert. My manager received a phone call from a gentleman named Michael Martin, who was a San Francisco programmer for Clear Channel, requesting this appearance by the artist. Also on the phone was an independent promotion man. My manager was told, after he declined the artist's particpation, that Michael Martin programmed all 40 rhythm stations owned by Clear Channel. And to make a long story short, the artist's next single was basically boycotted.
Clear Channel owns a huge chunk of radio and TV stations in North America, as well as venues and exclusive licenses with Ticketmaster (known most affectionately as "Ticketbastard".
Although this statement concerns the concert promoter rather than his label, the situation with the IOW concert is parallel in regards to how the record labels regard the artists they publish.
No...It's no novelty situation unique only to Morrissey. This type of thing goes on CONSTANTLY. But Morrissey has once again shown balls in a castigating Medieval Caste system known more generally as "The Music Industry".
What damage has been done to Morrissey?
Henley goes on to say:
"This institutionalized conflict of interest places the artist in a vastly uncompetitive and weak position. What happens when an artist refuses to perform in venues that are owned by the radio network, or chooses not to go on tour with a promotion company owned by the radio network? Will the artist's records be played on that network or will the company reduce or eliminate radio airplay? Most artists cannot afford to find out. In fact, I come here today at my own peril."
So, those of you who are quick to judge and readily take the side of the SUITS and not believe the statement that has been asserted in the statement from "True to You website" are naive at best and will invariably eat shite in the end.
Since this is a matter of public testimony, Fair Use allows the extended quotes in regards to my commentary.
Read the full transcripts here:
http://www.azoz.com/news/0019d.html
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Re:I don't owe you anything (Score:2, Interesting)
Firstly you misspelled 'malarchy' - it's malarkey and 'ludricous' is actually spelt ludicrous. 'Psychobable' actually has two b's. And you forgot to place the letters 'it' between t and y in the word identity. Maybe you're not so clever after all PefectlyWretched.
Of course he has an obligation to honour contractual agreements he signed with the promoters of IOW festival and to ALL his fans who bought tickets and booked accommodation to see him specifically perform live. I hope you're not suggesting that because he sings a few ditties for a living and writes his own lyrics, that some how he is above honouring any agreement he has actually signed. If that is what you're saying, then I really think you've taken leave of yours senses - if you had any senses to start with, that is.
For you to associate the reasonable criticism regarding his dishonour in this business matter with childhood dysfunction is just plain illogical if not downright laughable. In my mind I can only associate the term 'mirroring' with Morrissey's inherent over preening narcissism.
"Artists of any medium owe nothing to anyone but their art and its source. Morrissey is both an artist and an entertainer. When the two have conflicted, he has always stayed true to the Art and abandoned the Entertainer. Anyone who's followed the man's career should have got that on their first listen to "The Smiths"
And anyone who has followed his career will know what a dishonourable toe rag he was with Marr regarding the 40/40/10/10 royalties split from live and recorded performances during their days in The Smiths. Yet another example of his overweening self regard. To dismiss Joyce and Rourke as 'removable parts from a lawnmower' was a despicable thing to say and cost him dearly in the courtroom. To use the analogy further, we know who represents the sharp cutting blades of the said garden appliance.
If, if, if...if Morrissey prostituted himself or would offer sleep overs (with Senior Citizens most likely) and offered an outpouring of "I have Forgiven Jesus Juice" while brushing each other's hair (what's left of it), there would still be these types castigating the man. In the end, you can't please anyone but yourself, so what merits could there be in doing otherwise? If critics who compose notes intending to be serious in making a commentary equating this event with battered women in abusive relationships are sincere, then I sincerely suggest such critics SEEK HELP...you are ill.
Morrissey having sleepovers with senior citizens? What has that got to do with anything? What a deeply unpleasant concept in any case. I think you're the one who is ill matey.
I've never read such illogical, incoherent gibberish in my entire time posting to this website.
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Enemis (Score:0, Redundant)
Morrissey attending "some" gigs (Score:0)
Reading this only makes me realize how capricious he actually is. I can't understand it in 5 or 6 year-old children, not in a "music star" who constantly asks us to remember him and don't forget him.
Enjoy the other bands and have done with it (Score:2, Interesting)
I'm afraid We have to adopt a bit of a 'sod you morrissey attitude'.
I still can't wait until next weekend. It will still be a good two days away frrom my normal life, spent with friends, abd listening to some great bands. Its good to be alive !!!! eh Mozzer ????
I have enough to be depressed about with my life, and this news about Morrissey cancelling his festival appearance, really doesn't make it any worse to be honest.
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Morrissey is not a liar (Score:0)
Very simple.
iow (Score:0)
Law (Score:1)
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So.... (Score:0, Offtopic)
Md
Morrissey and Roxy Music on the one bill (Score:0)
I would have, but it just goes to prove how wrong you can be.
scandal ! (Score:0)
Angela sleeping with the enemy again? (Score:0)
Friday, June 3, 2005
Morrissey IOW, storying brewing...
Just to let you know, we're currently working on a Feature story about this Isle of Wight fiasco. John Giddings of the Solo Agency, (the agency promoting the Isle of Wight Festival) spoke with MorrisseyTour.com about the situation.
Said Giddings, "I think his [Morrissey's] reply is rubbish. His manager and agent are of the highest standing in this business, and I cannot believe they negotiated the show and issued the contract without consulting him. Why did he allow tickets to be sold in his name for 4 months? He is a sad person who seems not to care about letting people down. It's not the first time,and it won't be the last."
Story coming next week. Stay tuned.
Posted by slug @ 10:56 AM GMT [Link]
my did mozzer wait so long... (Score:0)
moz is notorious for pulling the plug on shows at teh last minutue.
i think he should have spoken up months ago when the line up was announced. not leave it until a month prior and cry like a baby he had no idea.
once again, the fans lose.
moz is getting crustier by the minute.
Didn't ANYONE really read what Moz wrote re IOW? (Score:1)
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Statement (Score:1)
I never agreed to attend this festival and deny any knowledge of my credit card being used to purchase these tickets.
I am not sorry to disappoint you all.
Love you all. Spellbound
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Todays Recipe is 'Sanctuary Fools' - strawberry (Score:0)
What has happened is that yet another record company has done the same old thing. I cannot believe Sanctuary have done this, but it has happened before and it will happen again. Morrissey is better on his own, waiting for the right deal to come along again - and it will - because he is loved, deeply, and he is an amazing STAR in a music world that is still devoid of major talent.
These antics really should be reserved for comic book clowns - is that what Sanctuary's men really are ? And they can do the same thing with Lou Reed !!
Thank goodness Morrissey has been able to publish the truth, but to be frank, he is damned if he does and he is damned if he does not. I'm glad that he did, because a few words here and there really show that he loves his fans.
I am very much looking forward to the new songs.
Strawberry.