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posted by
davidt
on Friday October 01 2004, @11:30AM
An anonymous person writes:
This month's Q magazine has a very interesting mention of Morrissey and Marr in a section entitled "bands reunite". After mentioning the Pixies, they go on to say that, although The Smiths will NEVER reform due to the legacy of the 1996 court case, an industry insider has told them that Morrissey and Johnny Marr HAVE been talking about the possibility of working together again, as a duo without Rourke and Joyce. They would not be known as The Smiths but most probably as Morrissey/Marr. Q magazine write: "While the messy 1996 court case in which former drummer Mike Joyce successfully sued the pair for unpaid royalties means that a Smiths reformation is unlikely, insiders say that the singer and the guitarist have talked about working together again. "Morrissey has got some huge UK shows coming up soon", says the source. "The timing would make perfect sense"'. What is interesting is that this rumour has now filtered into the mainstream music press, as opposed to sites like 'popbitch'. All I can say is - YES PLEASE!!! And to all the inevitable naysayers, if this WERE true, would you really deny the great partnership a chance to explore their unique, beautiful chemistry again just for fear of "tarnishing the legacy"?. They COULD come up with something amazing, you can never tell. Certainly, there'd be a massive weight of expectation on their shoulders that would force them to at least give it their very best shot. So yes, let the great alliance be reactivated, provided they produce new material and don't just do a cash-in tour. These two belong together. Also, reunions don't INEVITABLY fail - consider the excellent live performances of the Pixies, the critically lauded reunion album of American Music Club, and the two excellent new singles released last year by the reformed Dexys Midnight Runners. Moz/Marr could easily match this. A rumour worth salivating over, even if it's likely to prove false.
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uhhhhh (Score:0)
ahhhhh (Score:0)
Oh yes! (Score:1)
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fine by me (Score:0)
For God's sake people.... (Score:1)
If that's all what Johnny has to offer we're all much better off without.
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Just imagine.... (Score:1)
Just imagine Moz going: "Please let me say welcome to a wonderful man, to whom I am eternally grateful and who brought me where I am today... John Maher of Wythenshawe!".
Mmmmm, I'm gonna go to sleep tonight with that picture framed in my mind.
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I read that too (Score:1)
When you think about it, it does. I personally doubt it will happen, but presumably if Moz and Marr were ever to work together again and gig together, there would be a lot of Smiths stuff in the set and, coincidentally, there is at present. With Bigmouth and Last Night I dreamt and one or two others being warmed up, that's definitely interesting in terms of these rumours.
I'm not sure whether it would be a good thing or not. Marr was a great artist but he's done nothing of worth since 1987. Morrissey, on the other hand, has just co-written a very very good album with Alain Whyte and has put out some of his best ever b-sides.
While I can't see Marr ever reuniting with Morrissey as a band, perhaps it would be a good thing if they co-wrote together, and some of their songs were included on Morrissey albums, instead of exclusively Boorer/Whyte co-writes. That might be a more likely option, because I honestly find it hard to imagine the two of them on stage together.
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as Morrissey himself said in the 90s (Score:1)
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I just can't see this happening (Score:0)
I just think it would be quite humiliating for Marr particularly at a time when Moz would be coming from such a position of strength.
I know everyone will say it's the music that counts but both men strike me as very proud, stubborn and competitive people.
Because Sylvain Sylvain said so (Score:2, Informative)
So everyone can stuff their Smiths reunion fantasies. And big effin' deal...Morrissey uses email. I know some of you will make a big deal out of this fact because Mozzer once said he doesn't use email...but the times are a changin'.
it MAY happen (Score:0)
it JUNE happen
it JULY happen
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oh the rhythm of rumours.
Sum of their parts (Score:0)
Plus, as Alan Whyte is away he still needs a guitar player. Not that Whyte matches Marr (no disrespect to Whyte, not many people do match Marr.)
Whether they like it or not, M&M will never be anywhere near as good solo as they were/would be/will be together. They may both be excellent at what THEY do, but out of two ingredients they both only master one. And when these two particular people work together one plus one equals three.
Morrissey does not need Marr (Score:2, Insightful)
As excellent of a musician as Marr is, what has he accomplished without Morrissey? But on the other hand look at all Morrissey has done without Marr.
Is it possible that Marr truely needs Morrissey for inspiration?
There should never be a "group" called "Morrissey-Marr".
If such a grouping were to ever form, it should remain "Morrissey" with Marr as a guitarist/co-songwriter. Morrissey has proved he can work with anyone and his genious shines through. The band is just a neccesary support for Morrissey. As long as Morrissey can "get along" with them, anyone could be his band.
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maybe (Score:1)
but then, if they do this, what exactly does this mean for morrissey's career if he were to do something like this? would it be an instance where they are testing the grounds to see if they can really stand working with one another again? or is it just a thing they did for laughs for a trip down memory lane?
it happens that people grow older and realize that they don't have to limit themselves to one thing...
however, it's more of a point to ponder over rather than taking this entire reunion seriously. there would have to be an official announcement before i got too excited about it. his main quibble was not with johnny, but i can see where the issue of "you left me, you bastard" might pop up.
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i hope not (Score:1)
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No (Score:1)
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Moz & Marr Reunion (Score:1)
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I don't believe it (Score:0)
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Someone said to me... (Score:0)
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wouldnt hurt a bit (Score:0)
how many people can still hang in there for an all still living band that broke up going on 20 years now so why not let them enjoy the prospect
i question how much someone really supports an artist when they view only the latter part of their career in a vaccuum without respecting the importance of their beginnings and how it shaped who they are today
i still remember a "friend" telling me just 2 years ago how much they loved morrissey and when i commented about my Smiths history they said "morrissey was in a band before ..." this mind boggling comment sent me directly to the garage with a flashlight digging around for my old cassettes as if for proof or at least a realization that this music needed to be dusted off and restored to its rightful place of honor (or at least recaptured on CD).
i hope there a LOT more Smiths tunes on this tour and if johnny marr graces the stage i'll ride home on a cloud from my show with a tear in each eye and a song in my heart
Has Marr even done anything of worth (Score:0, Troll)
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Hype (Score:0)
And anyway, what's to lose? (except possibly dignity, but who cares?)
well i wonder (Score:0)