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davidt
on Thursday September 19 2002, @09:00AM
Troy's Keen writes:
Ambitious Outsiders has "Irish Blood, English Heart" recorded in Berkeley available for download... --- The same version (provided by Michael) is available also at Mrs. Shankly's mp3/video of the week.
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More "Miraval" Songs, Too (Score:1)
AO has also provided two more Miraval demos, a second untitled song and "Dagenham Dave." Be patient; the download was quite slow.
Cheers,
Jamie
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Another great new song. (Score:0)
Oh, what to be done with them? (Score:2, Insightful)
all this is mere speculation, of course, but which of these new songs, if any, do you think will find themselves on official releases, and how?
my feeling is that the "Mexico" tracks should be released as a themed single, independent of the forthcoming album.
A Side: "The First Of The Gang To Die"
B Side: "Mexico"
CD Extra Track: "?" (maybe there's another latin themed song already written?)
"I Like You". i think this song should be a bonus track (b-side) on a CD single. (if released at all... this is by far my least favorite. its' no fault of Boz's, i just think the lyrics are weak)
"The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores". i could see this on the album. the title alone sums up Morrissey's view of contemporary culture. (a la "I just can't find my place in this world..."). this new album will be scrutinized by the world as Morrissey's last attempt at a comeback, so i think it's in his best interest to put his strongest ideologies and most beautiful compositions forward on this LP. Moz & Co. have alot of material to choose from, so there will be no excuse for a weak trackisting.
"Irish Blood English Heart". i'd bet everything i own that this is going to make the album. i wouldn't be at all surprised to see it as the LP's opener or closer. (probably the former). i really feel this is on par with Smiths stuff... a punchy three minute epic... conjuring the spirit of classic masterpieces like "The Queen Is Dead".
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Oh where or where has my little dog gone? (Score:0)
when all is said and done. i like this song very much. ID really do. And i believe it will be an a-side.
mary
Oliver Cromwell? (Score:1)
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Re:The Restoration my friend. (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:Do the Royals love Oliver Cromwell? (Score:2, Insightful)
Now,the song is about his Irish ancestry and English upbringing,which he seems comfortable with and why shouldn't he.But the history between the British Isles is fraught with fear,loathing and animosity.Cromwell is an absolute hate figure in Ireland for his butchery but he is part of the history of both countries for better or worse and I think Morrissey is saying he is proud to be English,proud of his Irish blood but he wants to look beyond the racist,divisive,inequitable,upper class royalist society that figures such as Cromwell and The Windsors represent and to be able to display his Union Jack flag without these connotations.Morrissey's Englishness is more Charles Hawtrey than Charles Windsor.
That's my idea,anyway.
I suppose I should declare that I'm Irish but I'm not going to start shiting on that Morrissey is Irish.He is exactly what he says in his song.Neither faux English or faux Irish.
He is,thank God,uniquely himself.
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Re:Do the Royals love Oliver Cromwell? (Score:2, Insightful)
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oliver cromwell (Score:0)
...Because of Success... (Score:0)
God Blessssss you Boy!
Don't forget South American fans!! Come here.
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Irish Blood, English Heart - New LP??? (Score:1, Informative)
I heard some of moz's new stuff at the Tuesday night Albert Hall concert.
I Particularly liked this song.
(Maybe i felt a little Patriotic, as i am English & my Girlfriend likes to refer to me as "English Scum!")
Maybe this will be the title of an imminent new LP release!! ??
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I would rather be anywhere else but here today. (Score:0)
Did he just not like them or was it anything to do with the genocide of 1641-42? I'm not looking for a defense or justification of his actions just whether the Cromwell-haters know both sides of the arguement or just their own.
Re:Ambitious Outsiders Is a Fooking Cunt (Score:0, Redundant)
*yaawwwwn*
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Re:Ambitious Outsiders Is a Fooking Cunt (Score:2, Insightful)
In reference to your banter about cdrs:
Yes we did sell cdrs in the past but not at the same price. Each cd was a mere $5, so you can't compare that to what that seller on ebay is putting them for- $10. We have STOPPED all selling and trading before the tour started. As you may not know we have lives and work, school, and constantly maintaining the site left us no more time to do any sorts of trades or sales at all. This unfortunately was the only way we could support ourselves in paying for the costs for the site. The money that we recieved from past sales went towards the site and the monthly bills that went along with it. And don't even think its cheap either, it has become a 3 digit figure every month now. We don't ask for any monetary contributions at all! The site is now being funded entirely by Liar and I, with no outside help.
Regarding the new tour recordings:
Yes we are recieving them from people who like to SHARE! How can you sit there and type "This is because the person who gave him the 5 mp3s of new songs gave him specific orders not to sell these." Are you some kind of magician that magically listened to our conversation between me and the guy who gave me the recordings? To my knowledge it was only I and him and no one else. Your silly, but you are 'anonymous' so that explains it. Also about the images thing...we haven't taken any images from other sites during this tour since we have our own and also the people who send them in wanting to contribute.
And lastly the mp3s I post are free! Have you ever paid to get them! Nope, but yet you still talk your nonsense and leach off the kind people. In other words...the selling of our mp3s on ebay was hurtful for me personally. I never made you pay to download them, but yet people want to sell them for their own profit.
In the future, if we do release the songs on cdr note that the money will go to paying the costs of the site. Unless you want to hand over about $150-$200 monthly to pay for the site...then we wouldn't be having any trouble would we?
This is the last I'll be speaking on this matter. If you feel the need to bash me personally do it with sense and not just any stupid little idiotic comment. Or email me at [email protected] instead of being a coward and hiding behind your computer screen like a child.
Sincerly,
Chris
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Re:Ambitious Outsiders Is a Fooking Cunt (Score:2, Insightful)
Chris, how does this differ from you selling CDrs on the site? I would be even more pissed off when my recording ...(which i've taken time and $ to buy a ticket, buy batteries and blanks, sneak equiptment in, then edit and distrubute the bootleg)... ends up making you $5-10 just because you happened to have traded for it. Where's my cut. Who licensed you to sell these boots in the first place? What effort have you put into helping the bootleg community?
I know you didn't record the shows you are hosting, so you really have not right to get upset.
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