posted by davidt on Tuesday August 20 2002, @08:00AM
Anonymous writes:

Don't know if this is common knowledge but the Royal Albert Hall gigs are a complete sell-out. Both nights - all tickets gone. A total of 11,000 Mozz apostles with tickets to the greatest show on earth. Not bad going for Mozz to sell out both gigs - what with virtually no advertising, no promotion, no manager, no record label. "Wine for my men, We ride at dawn...."
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  • More like 6.000, as most of us will go to both shows. And no further gigs in Europe or the UK...
    In other words: 6000 Moz-apostles in Europe and the UK is not that great. Certainly not great enough to lure the record companies I'm afraid.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @08:19AM (#36963)
    • Re:Not 11.000 exactly by Mozzarella (Score:1) Tuesday August 20 2002, @08:26AM
      • Re:Not 11.000 exactly by Cooksey (Score:1) Tuesday August 20 2002, @08:56AM
        • You answered that question yourself! Because he's notorious for being moody and unreliable, and if he doesn't come off his high horse and asks less money, he will never get a deal.

          I was only talking about those two shows, and I still insist that he did well selling them out.

          Nevertheless, the recording industry is in a massive crisis and artists like Michael Jackson and Mariah Carey get ditched by their labels. And unless Morrissey learns to be a bit more modest and adapts to the new circumstances, he can sell out as many shows as he likes, it won't change his label situation.
          Mozzarella -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @09:40AM (#36978)
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    • Re:Not 11.000 exactly by Vincent (Score:1) Tuesday August 20 2002, @09:42AM
  • Mike Joyce states on the Q&A board of his web-site that he's never seen Morrissey play live (as an audience member) but that he is going to watch him at the Albert Hall. He doesn't say which date.

    Keep your eyes peeled folks, although if I were him after 'Sorrow...', I'd go in heavy disguise.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @10:39AM (#36985)
  • I can't wait to see Morrissey next month and I don't really care who he signs to or when he finally gets an album out if ever again. Looking at the current setlist it doesn't seem like the sort of approach someone who needs to make an impact with record companies would go for. Four new songs and a heavy reliance on his debut solo album? Hardly going to make any big label take notice, ah well. Roll on September.
    Sleepy lifeguard -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @11:23AM (#36995)
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  • Of course the Albert Hall gigs will sell out if they are the only UK ones he's doing. Why the hell can't he do a proper tour of the UK?

    The problem with Moz is he does NOTHING to broaden his appeal beyond hardcore fans. He keeps the same band, the same style, the same type of music. If he bothered to look at how Bowie keeps at the top, he would see that a little innovation goes a long way. Also he would see that turning out the odd commercial album (eg 'Lets Dance') then enables you to release uncommercial albums (eg 'Outside).

    Morrissey needs to stop asking for so much money and get signed. His music means nothing to people under 25 and unless he gets some records out it never will.
    sparacus -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @11:47AM (#36999)
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  • I got my tickets through the box office ( over the phone ), however so far thay have not arrived on my doormat.

    Am I the only one?

    If they dont arrive soon, I'm filing a lawsuit for mental torment!!!!
    Jacques Brel -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @01:48PM (#37022)
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  • Not bad for a "washed up eighties teen idol", eh?
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @02:03PM (#37029)
  • Hello sparacus,

    What did you think he should do? Cut a dance record? Wear a big clown nose?

    The fault lies where it always has -- with an industry that promotes only genre, market-researched disposable pop, with North American radio which plays only market-tested disposable pop, and with the degraded tastes of the public which grew up in such an environment.

    Morrissey is an artist. He's a genius. He's not a fucking advertising company, asking his promotional department to give him a new style and sound to reach a bigger public. What should Picasso have done to prevent market erosion? How should Chet Baker have changed his approach to reach a younger generation?
    MontyClift -- Tuesday August 20 2002, @04:30PM (#37044)
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  • What the hel..when were the tickets released! Thats it im going back to bed, wake me when he´s got a record out...
    soul77 -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @05:35AM (#37098)
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  • Either Morrissey doesn't yet want to release an album (who can blame him?) or he can't get the big deal he desires. Let's hope whatever happens, however long we have to wait that the record is the winner. By this I mean that lyrics are incisive, imaginative (with none of this constant theme repetition) and powerful, the music is topnotch (imaginative, skilled and varied) and everything gels (how about some decent cover art for a change?). The key to this is good producer (not Lilywhite). How's about Johnny Marr, John Cale, Kevin Shields or even Herr Bowie (now that would be something, wouldn't it?). Love Ya, bye.
    Rico -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @06:30AM (#37103)
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  • The Truth! (Score:1, Insightful)

    Morrissey was planning a full scale european tour with the hope of having a new record to promote, since this has not materialized he scaled it down. This current tour is to his raise his profile as an artist and let people know that he's still around....but unsigned?. When a new record deal is done and a new album is in the shops he'll do a full scale tour of the States, the U.K and europe, please don't lose faith, the album will be worth the wait!

    M.B!
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @09:21AM (#37115)
    • could MB be... (Score:3, Insightful)

      Martin Boorer (sometimes referred to as Boz!).

      just a thought: John Steed.
      Anonymous -- Thursday August 22 2002, @09:13AM (#37251)
    • Re:The Truth! by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday August 22 2002, @09:38AM
  • I think I should say a humble thanks for the early warning re: the RAH gigs. Got my tickets this a.m.(phoned RAH direct) and given the less than timely advertising, this site pushed me in the right direction well before the tickets selling out. So thank you!
    The tickets do have the usual 'no cameras...' warning, but I'll have a go - I'll risk walking funny past security for a few momentos :)
    Cheers,
    FWD
    Famous when dead -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @10:29AM (#37128)
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  • I just got back to the UK and click online for the first time in a few weeks and BLAM!
    I have missed the first DECENT piece of Moz-News in 3 years.

    God damn it. Damn - Damn - in the midst of life - damn - etc.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 21 2002, @11:40AM (#37134)
  • Just to let you know, Jaguares is scheduled to play the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago, on Sept. 20th....
    This may be interesting, and MOZ could come back from London and play with Jaguares this date.....
    What d´ya think?
    Anonymous -- Thursday August 22 2002, @07:39AM (#37241)
  • someone have pity on me!!!! i am a 17 year old girl and if i could have one wish it would be to have been born earlier so i could have had the chance to see The Smiths play live! As it is i was born in 1985!!!!!! I became a fan in 1998 and was over the moon when, in 1999, he announced a tour in the uk!!!!!! I rang up to get tickets as soon as they went on sale but the stupid woman on the other end said i had to be 18 to go!!!!!! Being 14 i would never have been allowed in!!!! Now this time around uk dates are announced and all the standing tickets sold out while im on holiday!!!!!!!!! i cried when i found out!!!!! i managed to get crappy seating tickets and i AM happy and excited that i am going but i soooooo badly want standing tickets so i can go right to the front and touch him!!!!!! This could be my only opportunity!!!!!! If there are any young english fans out there then contact me!!!!! i need a morrissey fan friend desperately-im going to see mozza with my dad!!!!!!!!!!
    sPANS -- Sunday August 25 2002, @08:27PM (#37628)
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  • If Morrissey does not make an album between today and tomorrow, I will die!!!
    Spineless Swine <[email protected]> -- Monday August 26 2002, @11:51AM (#37685)
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  • My buddie has pulled out, BASTARD, and I know no other keen Moz fans. Anyone interested in a row R seated ticket?? Let me know..

    [email protected]
    notRoddyWoomble -- Tuesday August 27 2002, @06:54AM (#37773)
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  • is there ANYONE who can save me from insanity??? i am searching for 3 tickets to either RAH concert- i have been searching on the net for 4 hours tonight and i am at the end of my tether!!!! please reply if you can help me! thanks :-)
    vinster -- Wednesday August 28 2002, @03:11PM (#37989)
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