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davidt
on Wednesday March 13 2002, @10:00AM
GurgleJerk writes:
In the April issue of Uncut, a small sidebar on Linder Sterling ("I Thought You Were Dead") features a couple of bits about Morrissey. According to her quotes, Linder will be re-exhibiting her Buzzcocks artwork and releasing a related book with five essays. One of the essays will be written by Morrissey. Also, she mentions that Morrissey's original title for the book "Morrissey Shot" was "Linder Shoots Morrissey," but the title was rejected by the publishers. And there's some other stuff about transforming herself into Clint Eastwood with prosthetics and filling a classroom full of salt. For that, go buy the magazine. It has a free CD with "Late Night, Maudlin Street" on it as well. ---
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Linder Sterling to release book (with Morrissey essay) - Uncut (Apr.)
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Bless 'er! (Score:1, Interesting)
A very intersting woman, with a hell of a lot of kindness.
Good luck with the book Linder!
I've asked this many times, but (Score:1)
If not, it's about time, cause she's a remarkable
and very interesting person, I mean het art
and music , and I really hope one day she
writes a book about her long-time friendship
with Morrissey [I doubt if there's anybody else
who beat Linder as one of Morrissey's longest
and closest friend which began late 70's]
I'm really curious about her infuence on Morrissey
and vice versa.
Do not see this post as a fact ot whatever, no
this was only a spontanious thought.
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Best Friends On The Payroll! (Score:3, Insightful)
Would anyone in here or anywhere else for that matter, be even remotely interested in Linder Sterling's vaguely interesting career if it weren't for the bald naked fact that she is Morrissey's best friend?
The answer is: NO !!!
A few more pertinent questions come to mind.
If Linder and her band Ludus were so bloody scintillating or to use the words of Morrissey himself: "they (Ludus) perch uneasily on the fringes of all things bright and avant-garde. Being the only sensible recipe for the culturally damaged, theirs is a name destined to be in everyone's mouth, should justice prevail. Knowing that it very rarely does, Ludus are out to at least stretch their patience with the world to the very elastic limit. And it is never denied that their music is unlike almost anyone else's."
Oh right matey, if "justice were to prevail" then why didn't YOU offer them a high profile support slot when you were touring in The Smiths if they were that good? How come Geoff Travis of Rough Trade didn't sign them if you were so obsessive about their greatness as a stage band.
If anyone could have helped Linder and her band get a leg up the ladder of the music industry it was Morrissey & Co!
The last part of Morrissey's remark is quite telling: "And it is never denied that their music is unlike almost anyone else's." Yeah well you can say that about anyone's music from Shania Twain to Limpbiskit. It sounds like a bach handed insult. Perhaps he lied and really thought they were not up to much. Hollow words and empty gestures and all that.
The truth is, there were loads of pretentious
wannabes like Linder around in the late 70's early 80's. She was one of many gals performing on stage in dresses made out of sausages, tampons and pigs' entrails. She may have been interesting, but then any old fool standing at the bus stop can be classified as interesting. Doesn't mean we have to go out and buy their avant gard esoteric song with obscure lyrics. The public gets what the public wants - and she obviously didn't make records that people wanted to buy and listen to.
It's quite telling that she did a cover of a Brigit Bardot record, suitably French and obscure, but then if you're living in a squat in Whalley Range with other wannabees then you can never be too French or too obscure! Singing in French in the early 80's was a way of saying how clever and well read you were. But then Bardot sang in French, was she clever and well read too!
After two years of obscurity in Belgium in the mid 80's (as everyone knows, Belgium is the arse of the world when it comes to pop culture - perhaps Linder felt she could fool the Belgians with her exotic foreign ways, delusions of greatness and her pretentious insularity unlike the home grown cynics of Manchester). She returned brow beaten nonetheless to Manc Land and ended up on the payroll as Morrissey's photographer - where else you might ask?
She's made a nice little career for herself playing the professional best friend. If Morrissey really had any faith in her as a singer/performer he would have given her a lot more work than a short stint on backing vocals on 'Driving Your Girlfriend Home'. Furthermore if her sleeve design and graphics work was so good how come it was Jo Slee and Karen Gough who ended up getting all the commissions?
Perhaps he never wanted her to be successful in the mainstream sense - and feared losing their precious friendship if her star went into the ascendant. He is more or less saying, write books and take pictures of me but don't ask me to do a duet with you - I prefer to do that with Siouxie Sioux. Is he saying "I'd prefer it if you stayed in the background, because I think that is where you belong."
Another example of this 'nice work if you can get it' business is to do with the publication of Michael Bracewell's book from a few years back called 'England Is Mine.' Michael turns out to be Linder's husband and yet
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I Despair! (Score:1, Insightful)
Firstly, Chris from ambitious Outsiders gets a battering for meeting Morrissey.
Secondly, Mike Joyce gets called some of the foulest and rudest comments I've read for daring to try and release rare Smiths outtakes.
Now, Linder Sterling gets it in the neck. Her crime? Being Morrissey's best friend since before he was famous.
Now I've never met/spoken to Chris, Mike or Linder, but I'd never stoop to the vicious, hideous mud-slinging that's gone on here. All these stories - Chris' meeting, Mike's site, Linder's book - are of passing interest to Moz fans, so what is the harm in reporting these incidents. The vicious slagging that goes on afterwards taints these pieces of news with a horrid aftertaste.
SO come on, who's next for the bitchy assaults at Morrissey Solo? Boz and Alain for daring to write songs with him? Johnny Marr, for daring to be in the same group as him? His mother for daring to give birth to him?
I'm all against censorship but, David T, I think you should seriously have a look at this current climate of HATE. It's horrible, it's ugly.
Haven't you guys heard - "it takes STRENGTH to be gentle and kind". Please stop the hate and leave innocent people like Linder Sterling alone. Where do some of you get off being so nasty and vindictive. This must stop.
Re:I Despair! (Score:3, Insightful)
when i read morrissey's comments about how he was upset at what was said about him here, on the surface, it looks like there is something valid. but the reason why it looks valid is because we go under the assumption that most people who frequent this website are sane and have opinions worth beating yourself up over. he only sees the woodwork. he doesn't see what's crawling out of it.
and to give you an idea of what i'm talking about, some of those same people who say this and that, well, if you checked into their history (which is not prominently displayed under their stats like it should be to give you a full idea), you start finding out about people who sit outside of his house all day and others who break into his hotel rooms and shit. so, when you take that into account, now you will begin to realize that a lot of this stuff shouldn't be taken as even handed commentary because you should have already been frightened of them anyway. i can't say all of them do it by any means, and i only know of a couple that do come to this website, but they can't be the only ones by a long shot.
so, what do i think:
about Chris: who cares? about half of the population who comes here has been by his house or stood outside of it long enough waiting for him to come out. i think i have a good idea of who is perpetuating some of it, however. i can't prove it, but this person is a freak anyway.
about Mike: well, hell, about the entire group that was the smiths. let's start there. these are nearly or already 40 year old men and they still act like squabbling brothers. i think that deep down they still all care, because the opposite of love is not hate, but complete indifference. they'll never truly be able to move on because of it.
about Linder: who cares? Moz let her photograph him and it made for some interesting pictures. and many people use their own friends to make artistic works. its nothing new. and i thought by the time that the Smiths were signed that Ludus was pretty much no more anyway. how can you sign a band that isn't doing anything? and besides, what if he did go to Rough Trade and he proposed it and it got turned down? would that be public knowledge that he did anything on her behalf? that's not how things work. bands can make suggestions, but its up to the label to make the final call and morrissey would have been a moron to have said, "ok you won't take her? the smiths and i are leaving your label!" after he had been trying for so many years to be in a band himself. would you do that for your friends? hell, i wouldn't. i'm selfish like that because i wouldn't want to go back to working in an office again, and it achieves nothing if both you and your friend are unsigned and broke. if they don't want to work in a boring day job, then they should try making something the world at large might want!
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Viva Les Mavericks! (Score:2, Insightful)
In fact by virtue of following his iconography, his lyrics and beliefs we are naturally disposed to questioning everything and everyone around us. From families, to employers, to friends, to presidents and politicians. He is the Prince of Scepticism. We must follow by example. Everything and everyone must be held accountable.
However I don't think he ever anticipated that this sceptical analysis would one day be applied to him and his lackeys per se. The pen is mightier than the sword and if you live by it as he does don't be surprised if you get 'a poison pen, an anonymous call a brick in the small of the back again'
You want David T, to introduce censorship so that this site will become a sacharine, sugar coated tribute to mediocrity? The world is dumb enough as it is! If we get rid of people like me who challenge prevalent misconceptions and commonly held beliefs around here you'll just have this dull politically correct version of life as we REALLY don't know it.
Life is is naturally about conflict and confrontation. It would be unnatural if everyone in here were in agreement. That insipid consensus is not want Morrissey wants from us. It pains him sometimes to see some of the things in here, BUT he wouldn't have it any other way.
REMEMBER: Linder and Steven were/are ferociously radical/subversive artistic types when they lived together in Whalley Range. Socialism, animal rights, vegetarianism and radical feminism were always on their agenda. We honour them by our insights, our passions and our anger. Then they can see their own reflection. They like that.
I don't think Mozzy&Co would be happy to discover that all his fans were non-questioning, passionless philistines, the 'sychophantic slags' who have absolutely nothing to offer the world except their unquestioning devotion and fawning ways.
All sheep end up in the slaughterhouse!
And Mozzy and Linder do not want us to be gentle lambs!
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free cd / uncut (Score:1)
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