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[[Category:Covered Morrissey / The Smiths]]
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== Relevance ==
== Relevance ==
Morrissey and David's duet of "Cosmic Dancer" at [[Los Angeles, California 1991-06-02 (Morrissey concert)|The Forum in Los Angeles, CA (June 2, 1991)]] was [[Cosmic Dancer/That's Entertainment (single)|released in 2020]].
Morrissey and David's duet of "[[Mention::Cosmic Dancer]]" at [[Los Angeles, California 1991-06-02 (Morrissey concert)|The Forum in Los Angeles, CA (June 2, 1991)]] was [[Cosmic Dancer/That's Entertainment (single)|released in 2020]].


Morrissey covered "[[Drive-In Saturday]]" live in 2007.
Morrissey covered "[[Drive-In Saturday]]" live in 2007.
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From [https://www.laweekly.com/moz-the-cat/ MOZ THE CAT - LA Weekly] (January 31, 2007):
From [https://www.laweekly.com/moz-the-cat/ MOZ THE CAT - LA Weekly] (January 31, 2007):
 
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'''''The New York Dolls had a kind of — a weird kind of macho quality that T. Rex doesn’t have, or Bowie.'''''
'''''The New York Dolls had a kind of — a weird kind of macho quality that T. Rex doesn’t have, or Bowie.'''''<br>
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No. Well, Bowie was very womanly. He was very womanly when he originally broke through in England, and it’s largely forgotten now. But if you can imagine him walking onto a British television screen in 1972, it was very, very shocking, very shocking. And it was unimaginable — absolutely unimaginable. And even though punk was a worldwide revolution and fantastically so, it wasn’t quite as threatening as, as you term it, glitter rock.
No. Well, Bowie was very womanly. He was very womanly when he originally broke through in England, and it’s largely forgotten now. But if you can imagine him walking onto a British television screen in 1972, it was very, very shocking, very shocking. And it was unimaginable — absolutely unimaginable. And even though punk was a worldwide revolution and fantastically so, it wasn’t quite as threatening as, as you term it, glitter rock.
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From [https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/morrissey-on-politics-david-bowie-what-his-fans-taught-him-201082/ "Morrissey on Politics, David Bowie, What His Fans Taught Him" - Rolling Stone] (Dec. 8, 2017):
From [https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/morrissey-on-politics-david-bowie-what-his-fans-taught-him-201082/ "Morrissey on Politics, David Bowie, What His Fans Taught Him" - Rolling Stone] (Dec. 8, 2017):
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If David Bowie called on the cosmic telephone, what would you two talk about?
'''If David Bowie called on the cosmic telephone, what would you two talk about?'''<br>
He called many times on the terrestrial telephone. He must surely be happy now. Music is eternity, and there he is, now, very much in it. I don’t imagine he wanted anything else from life.
He called many times on the terrestrial telephone. He must surely be happy now. Music is eternity, and there he is, now, very much in it. I don’t imagine he wanted anything else from life.
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From [https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/turning-the-inside-out "Turning The Inside Out." - Morrissey Central] (July 5, 2021)
From [https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/turning-the-inside-out "Turning The Inside Out." - Morrissey Central] (July 5, 2021)


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SAM:
'''SAM: I wasn't ever a Bowie fan, and I don't understand the hysteria for him.'''<br>
I wasn't ever a Bowie fan, and I don't understand the hysteria for him.
M: Well, certainly in 1972, '73, '74 he looked incredible, and he was earth-threatening for that period, so, when you consider how he started with no advantages it's remarkable how a strong level of fantasy and vanity can give you so much strength, and he did it without giving anything whatsoever of his true self away.
M:
Well, certainly in 1972, '73, '74 he looked incredible, and he was earth-threatening for that period, so, when you consider how he started with no advantages it's remarkable how a strong level of fantasy and vanity can give you so much strength, and he did it without giving anything whatsoever of his true self away.


SAM:
'''SAM: His true self? What do you mean?'''<br>
His true self? What do you mean?
M: Well, he was always laughing at something, or smiling at least, and never spoke about anything in depth. I'd say something not remotely funny and he'd burst out laughing.
M:
Well, he was always laughing at something, or smiling at least, and never spoke about anything in depth. I'd say something not remotely funny and he'd burst out laughing.


SAM:
'''SAM: If he were alive now do you think you'd be friends?'''<br>
If he were alive now do you think you'd be friends?
M: I don't think he was friends with anybody. [[Mention::Lou Reed | Lou]] told me that David would pass him on the street and look the other way. He also said that David spent his final years in his apartment eating meatballs. But, God bless him.
M:
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I don't think he was friends with anybody. Lou told me that David would pass him on the street and look the other way. He also said that David spent his final years in his apartment eating meatballs. But, God bless him.
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See also [http://passionsjustlikemine.com/influence-music.htm Under The Influence - Passions Just Like Mine] / David Bowie. Excerpts:
See also [http://passionsjustlikemine.com/influence-music.htm Under The Influence - Passions Just Like Mine] / David Bowie. Excerpts:


<pre>His song "The Laughing Gnome" was played during intermission on the 1991 Kill Uncle tour.
<blockquote>His song "The Laughing Gnome" was played during intermission on the 1991 Kill Uncle tour.


Morrissey accepted to support Bowie on his 1995 Outside Tour. He stayed on board for two weeks then pulled out.
Morrissey accepted to support Bowie on his 1995 Outside Tour. He stayed on board for two weeks then pulled out.
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In his autobiography, Morrissey talks about buying Bowie's "Starman" single, seeing him live, and the effect the artist had on him when he was a teenager. He also discusses other meetings with his idol, singing a duet with him and having him cover one of his songs, etc.
In his autobiography, Morrissey talks about buying Bowie's "Starman" single, seeing him live, and the effect the artist had on him when he was a teenager. He also discusses other meetings with his idol, singing a duet with him and having him cover one of his songs, etc.
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See also [https://torrhl.tumblr.com/post/137101013500/every-time-morrissey-mentions-david-bowie-in Every time Morrissey mentioned David Bowie in “Autobiography” - Torr]. Excerpt:
See also [https://torrhl.tumblr.com/post/137101013500/every-time-morrissey-mentions-david-bowie-in Every time Morrissey mentioned David Bowie in “Autobiography” - Torr]. Excerpt:


<pre>I meet David Bowie for breakfast at a discreet restaurant at the foot of the Hollywood Hills. Both standing at the buffet with our empty plates, David hovers over what are horrifically called ‘cold cuts’. I nestle up beside him.
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I meet David Bowie for breakfast at a discreet restaurant at the foot of the Hollywood Hills. Both standing at the buffet with our empty plates, David hovers over what are horrifically called ‘cold cuts’. I nestle up beside him.


‘David, you’re not actually going to eat that stuff, are you?’
‘David, you’re not actually going to eat that stuff, are you?’
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‘Yes, I am,’ I say proudly, as David changes course and sidles off towards the fruit salad, and another soul is saved from the burning fires of self-imposed eternal damnation.
‘Yes, I am,’ I say proudly, as David changes course and sidles off towards the fruit salad, and another soul is saved from the burning fires of self-imposed eternal damnation.


David quietly tells me, ‘You know, I’ve had so much sex and drugs that I can’t believe I’m still alive,’ and I loudly tell him, ‘You know, I’ve had SO LITTLE sex and drugs that I can’t believe I’m still alive.’</pre>
David quietly tells me, ‘You know, I’ve had so much sex and drugs that I can’t believe I’m still alive,’ and I loudly tell him, ‘You know, I’ve had SO LITTLE sex and drugs that I can’t believe I’m still alive.’
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=="I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday" cover ==
=="I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday" cover ==
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==Morrissey support on 1995 Outside Tour==
==Morrissey support on 1995 Outside Tour==
Excerpt from [https://www.stevepafford.com/mozbowie/ Cosmic Dancer and the real story of the Morrissey versus Bowie debacle] - stevepafford.com:
Excerpt from [https://www.stevepafford.com/mozbowie/ Cosmic Dancer and the real story of the Morrissey versus Bowie debacle] - stevepafford.com:
 
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In 1995, Morrissey agreed to open up for his hero on the European leg of Bowie’s Outside tour, but after getting a poor reception from crowds and critics, quit early on, citing an “illness” that didn’t stop him from touring Japan on his own a couple weeks later. He would go on to claim he was under pressure from The Dame to submit to a segueway segment that would have seen the two artists sing each other’s songs between their respective sets in order to “win over” the Morrissey faithful. While it’s certainly true that that was Bowie’s initial plan, however calculating that sounds, that’s expressly not the reason Moz left the tour.
In 1995, Morrissey agreed to open up for his hero on the European leg of Bowie’s Outside tour, but after getting a poor reception from crowds and critics, quit early on, citing an “illness” that didn’t stop him from touring Japan on his own a couple weeks later. He would go on to claim he was under pressure from The Dame to submit to a segueway segment that would have seen the two artists sing each other’s songs between their respective sets in order to “win over” the Morrissey faithful. While it’s certainly true that that was Bowie’s initial plan, however calculating that sounds, that’s expressly not the reason Moz left the tour.


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Bowie went on to reject Morrissey’s proposal to use a photo of the two of them for EMI’s reissue of The Last Of The Famous International Playboys in 2013, so perhaps he didn’t quite understand “junior high ribbing.”
Bowie went on to reject Morrissey’s proposal to use a photo of the two of them for EMI’s reissue of The Last Of The Famous International Playboys in 2013, so perhaps he didn’t quite understand “junior high ribbing.”
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Excerpt from a [https://www.morrissey-solo.com/content/interview/times/ Morrissey 1999 Times magazine interview]:
Excerpt from a [https://www.morrissey-solo.com/content/interview/times/ Morrissey 1999 Times magazine interview]:
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"I have never spoken about this up until now because, in spite of everything, I do respect David," he says. "I simply have to play Star Man or Drive-in Saturday and I will forgive him for anything. But I left that tour because he put me under a lot of pressure, and I found it too exhausting.
"I have never spoken about this up until now because, in spite of everything, I do respect David," he says. "I simply have to play Star Man or Drive-in Saturday and I will forgive him for anything. But I left that tour because he put me under a lot of pressure, and I found it too exhausting.


"But then, Bowie is principally a business, and I can't imagine he would have telephoned his own mother without considering the career implications. David surrounded himself with very strong people, and that's the secret of his power: that everything he does will be seen in a certain light. But it certainly wasn't the greatest career move that I ever made, even though they gave 6,000 refunds in Manchester when I didn't appear - but I don't think you'd have read about that in the Manchester Evening News..."
"But then, Bowie is principally a business, and I can't imagine he would have telephoned his own mother without considering the career implications. David surrounded himself with very strong people, and that's the secret of his power: that everything he does will be seen in a certain light. But it certainly wasn't the greatest career move that I ever made, even though they gave 6,000 refunds in Manchester when I didn't appear - but I don't think you'd have read about that in the Manchester Evening News..."
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==Image Gallery==
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His image next to [[David Johansen]]'s was used as a 2022 backdrop:
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