posted by davidt on Tuesday July 20 2004, @12:00PM
Ryan B. writes:

According to Spin Magazine (www.spin.com), Morrissey is the 17th greatest rock frontman of all time.

The latest issue (Hives on cover) rates frontmen in four categories: sex appeal, presence, musical ability, and fashion sense. Moz gets an average score in all categories and comes out #17, a respectable showing to be sure in an American magazine. As always with Spin, the rankings are arbitrary and memories short. So Courtney Love ranks above Kurt Cobain, the decidedly un-original Justin Hawkins of the Darkness somehow ranks above Elvis Costello, David Lee Roth trounces Cobain, Trent Reznor, Costello, Joe Strummer, Bono, and a host of other luminaries, and the endlessly fascinating Jarvis Cocker has now been officially completely forgotten (at least in America).
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  • Was Jarvis Cocker ever remembered in America? I mean, apart from the small throng of die-hard PULP fans, and those with a more than slight passing intrest in britpop during the 90's? I don't ever remember J Cocker getting much attention from the U.S. press, at least as much as the other names this person has mentioned. Don't get me wrong, I think PULP were a great band, but to be among those nominated for this in a U.S. magazine, Spin for that matter, would be almost unheard of. It would be like Rolling Stone saying Richey Edwards was the greatest lyricist ever. It won't happen.......
    Sharron Needles -- Tuesday July 20 2004, @12:30PM (#115970)
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  • Why Courtney pips Kurt to the higher position I don't know. Neither does Justin Hawkins deserve to be above Elvis Costello. If you're gonna nominate someone in the 'poodle perm rock' category nominate Freddie Mercury, cos although I don't like Queen you couldn't deny his power as a frontman. Hawkins nicks practically everything from Mercury, and Mercury was better. Bono, yeah, Jagger, yeah - perfectly acceptable. But Justin Hawkins? Courtney Love? Bloody hell, who decides these things?
    Anonymous -- Tuesday July 20 2004, @12:52PM (#115977)
  • Every time I see one of these so-called 'All Time' lists I can't help thinking to myself WHY?.
    They are just so utterly pointless.
    They always contain at least ten people that in a nationwide poll, would not even be in the Top 1000. Basically, they are just magazine fillers, a cheap and easy way to generate a headline when not much else is going on....bit like Channel 4 and their endless Top 100 'telly clip' series.
    mick ransommich -- Tuesday July 20 2004, @02:16PM (#116004)
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  • zzzzzzzzzzz...uh....another list
    fitztomoz -- Tuesday July 20 2004, @02:47PM (#116008)
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  • Yes, but if Morrissey hadn't released an album this year, or for that matter grace the cover of the damn magazine at hand, there is absolutely no way that he would have even been on that list!
    Remember, he had sunk into obscurity post-1997 and was, with the music buying public, quite literally out of sight and out of mind.

    So yeah, he's on the list, but only because he was the magazine cover star a mere eight weeks ago! If it wasn't for that small fact, I doubt he'd of even been thought of, let alone placed in at 17 or whatever it was.
    Sick -- Tuesday July 20 2004, @05:40PM (#116048)
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  • thats THE ultimate front man
    pimpfnick -- Wednesday July 21 2004, @12:45AM (#116080)
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  • How on earth did he come anywhere on the list? Please. Surely he would score a big fat 0 on all those 'categories'.
    Truman C -- Wednesday July 21 2004, @05:06AM (#116105)
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  • Here's to 10 years of being totally irrelevant.
    Nine Times Fine -- Wednesday July 21 2004, @07:52AM (#116138)
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    for haven’t you me with you now?
  • And how about all the "New Romantics" from the 80s? Most of them can piss upon todays ones! Marc Almond, Simon Le Bon, Boy George, Adam Ant, etc...Talk about charisma...
    Also.You might question Suede music, originality, etc... but I have to say Brett Anderson is (was) a great frontman. Spirited like F***.
    Dave Gahan for me would be no.1.
    As far as Elvis Costello is concerned...erm...i love him as a singer AND songwriter, but if we're talking about frontmanship, no i dont think he is up there. So my list would contain: Dave Gahan, Freddie Mercury, Robert Plant, Simon Le Bon, Mick Jagger, Joe Strummer, Bryan Ferry, John Lydon, Kurt Cobain, Jarvis Cocker, Marc Almond, Bono, Brett Anderson, Morrissey, Marilyn Manson, Robert Smith, Peter Murphy, Boy George, Adam Ant, Billy Idol, Jimmy Pursey, etc..etc...

    Claude, Birmingham, UK
    Anonymous -- Thursday July 22 2004, @02:34AM (#116242)
  • You may not have liked his music but David Lee Roth was one hell of a frontman.
    LeBlanc -- Thursday July 22 2004, @05:41AM (#116260)
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