posted by davidt on Tuesday September 10 2002, @09:00AM
First with the link is ghoy:

"Morrissey: 'I haven't been made an offer to reform The Smiths' - NME.com, Sept. 10, 2002

Summary from Austere: NME.COM do another boring rehash of a story from this site, namely, the one about Morrissey never being offered any money to reform. Then some promoters then blather on as if this would ever happen anyway. And then it ends with a punchline, ha ha ha bonk.

Marco adds:

Over the title Ask me Ask me Ask me NME.com contacted some booking agents to know if they are interested in a Smiths reunion, since Morrissey said no one offered him or at least have approached him to talk about this.
SJM Promotions said they are interested and offered 1 million pounds (as a starting point)

Others were contacted and one said 1.5 million pounds for a British tour with tickets costing around 25 or 30 pounds.

Well, I thing it's good to remind everyone that when Morrissey came to Brazil in 2000 he was interviewed by Folha de São Paulo, one of the major newspaper in Brazil, and said The Smiths would never reform, not even for One million (although he did not said if it was for One million dollars or One million pounds).

At the end NME jokes with it saying they started a whip and raised 87.50 pounds to draw The Smiths out of retirement.
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  • 87.50 is probably all they made last week off of magazine sales.
    suzanne -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @09:41AM (#39802)
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  • Oh what a fucking surprise, now they're going to try to get the Smiths back together, and we all know that's all Mozzer and Johnny have been waiting for all these years - the NME's approval. I'm sure this will change everything. Are they going to try to claim 20% of the profits too for 'arranging' the deal with the promoters?
    They are so transparent, those wankers. Now if at any time in the future the Smiths ever do reform, the NME will claim credit for it!
    Just like they're claiming that Morrissey is on tour because of them, just like they said that he'd got a deal with Sanctuary because of them.
    Yes, we all have the NME to thank for all the good things in life!
    Let's all pray for them to be bankrupt by Christmas, wouldn't that be a lovely gift to the world?
    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @10:16AM (#39811)
  • I actually feel sorry for the journalist who, having landed a dream job at prestigious rock weekly NME, is forced to hack out a pathetic non-story spun out of an unremarkable remark to a provincial overseas magazine by a desperate pathetic management.
    Bobby Steels -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @11:27AM (#39830)
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  • NME tried to destroy Morrissey's solo career in the 90's and now they are shiting on about a reunion.Who would want to see a reunion.It's not going to happen and if it does will the two nonentities on drums and bass be included?I don't think so.
    Furby -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @11:57AM (#39835)
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  • Actually, what Mozzer said was "Not in a million years" and not "Million pounds", million dollars, or whatever. At least that's what the FAQ of itttwt.tripod.com/e/ [tripod.com] says. Can anybody who reads Brazilian help?
    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @01:25PM (#39854)
  • Okay, is anybody aware of the fact that Stickboy runs the NME nowadays? He's one of Britain's major Morrissey/Smiths detractors since time immemorial. If you're a true music lover and Morrissey fan, don't EVER - I repeat, EVER - trust a goddam word the NME says.
    Ramon -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @01:29PM (#39857)
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  • I made a mistake when submitted a comentary. Please, sorry for this... Morrissey did not say not even for a million, he said not even in a million years. Above you can check what he said..
    When asked: "And what about the rumors about a Smiths reunion?"
    He replied:
    "This not going to happen not even in one million year. It has to happen a nuclear war, an earthquake, for a Smiths' comeback".
    Above as published in portuguese
    Folha de São Paulo: "sobre os rumores de uma possível volta dos Smiths..."
    Morrissey - Isso não vai acontecer, nem em 1 milhão de anos. Tem que haver uma guerra nuclear, um terremoto, para os Smiths voltarem.
    Once again sorry for this terrible mistake. But once again is what I expect from Morrissey. It was never because of money. Sorry, sorry, sorry...
    Marco -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @02:26PM (#39874)
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    And all those lies, written lies, twisted lies. Well, they weren't lies, they weren't lies...
  • The entire interview can be found here:
    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ [rockymountainnews.com].
    I don't like how NME does not include links to their sources, but at least they mentioned "Rocky Mountain News" in their article, unlike "various messageboards" (Morrissey-solo).

    >>>
    The lone stranger

    Answering fans' requests, reclusive Morrissey comes out of hiding, hits the road

    By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News
    August 30, 2002

    Morrissey's music has always been about isolation, but it was always meant to be emotional and artistic, not literal.

    The former Smiths leader, who influenced modern music every bit as much as Kurt Cobain did, finds himself well-off and well-respected but alone. He has a new album but can't come to terms to get it released.

    As for fans, "they can't get to see me or get to know me, I'm afraid," he says.

    "There's nothing at all. Playing (live) is all I can do. Really, there's nothing else," he says, then laughs. "Sorry about that."

    Even without an album or major-label visibility, the legendary singer and recluse is on the road, including a show tonight at the Fillmore Auditorium, "mainly because there were several requests to come out and play," he says.

    "I haven't had a (record) deal for a long time, and there isn't an album out. Yet the live audience seems to remain. That's why I'm here, that's why I'm going around."

    Radiohead's Thom Yorke says performing onstage is at times like being an actor, trying to convey the emotion of a song.

    "I feel the exact opposite to Thom," Morrissey says. "I feel the songs are completely me. There is no role. It's just a matter of being allowed to stand before people and express it."

    As lead singer of The Smiths, Morrissey became an international icon along with long-estranged guitarist Johnny Marr. The band's five-year run was fiery and influential before dissent splintered them.

    Morrissey's contradictory emotions come out in song titles that are often humorous, despite his dour persona - The More You Ignore Me the Closer I Get, You're the One for Me Fatty, Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now, We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful, Hairdresser on Fire. His latest material is no exception: The World is Full of Crashing Bores and The First of the Gang To Die are in the set list. He's mixing new and solo material with Smiths classics.

    He's never had a problem performing his signature Smiths material, because "those songs were and are completely me, just the same as the solo songs are completely me," he says. "I don't really feel they belong to other people and other times. It's just a continuation of my life."

    What struck fans most about Morrissey's music in The Smiths and solo was his vocal style: lush, dramatic and rich but never over the top. Songs such as There Is a Light That Never Goes Out and Suedehead evoke a mood while Morrissey's voice takes a journey.

    "I do take it very seriously, and it's something I listen for all the time - vocal melody in other people. Again, I find it very rare that anybody, ever, has vocal melody. I find it extraordinary that so many songs can be successful and they have no melody whatsoever," Morrissey says. "For me, it's the most important thing. That's the thing that either takes me in as a listener or it doesn't. This is why I can't listen to rap music. I'm sure a great deal is being said in those words, but I can never listen, because the melody is so monotone."

    He's also down on the industry in general.

    "We've had an album for a long time, just waiting to be released. I've had some interest, but not enormous interest from labels. I've had many meetings with labels," Morrissey says. "Most people conclude with the question 'Will your new songs blend with what's happening now?' My reply is always 'No.' And usually that's the end of the interview. I don't really want to blend with what's happening now."

    He never
    sleeper <[email protected]> -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @03:47PM (#39910)
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  • If you were really as knowledgeable about the music business as you say, you would be aware that it's been a long time since the NME was instrumental in anything. They just don't matter anymore.
    You ask why all the NME bashing? Because we remember their treatment of Morrissey over the years. I have never seen them attack another artist with such venom, or so unfairly and cruelly. If they don't like his music, fine that's fair enough, but they got personal, and they really crossed the line. They told readers to brick this sweet, gentle man off stage. (If I recall correctly this was as recently as the Oye Esteban tour.) They've publicly branded him a racist, and dragged his name through the mud. Yes, for the rest of his life, there will be people who associate Morrissey with racism, because of them. I'm sorry, but that's unforgivable. They really hurt him. They've stabbed him in the back time and time again just because it suited them, he never deserved what he got from them. And although there was a time when the NME was influential and it was a big help to one's career to have them on your side, that is happily no longer the case.
    Two of the things we have always admired in Morrissey (and that he is so proud of himself) are his integrity and dignity. And those things are nothing to be ashamed of. If you think that their past behaviour should be forgiven, well I don't agree. It might be worth considering if they were still powerful, but by all accounts these are their dying gasps. The NME is a shadow of its former self, and they just don't have any clout anymore, so why bother?
    I agree with you that any mention of Morrissey's name in the press is a good thing, and I'm glad that they're talking about him again. But I think it's silly for you to be stunned and horrified that people still have such negative feelings towards the cockroaches that they are.
    Morrissey doesn't need the NME, it's as simple as that. If they want to promote him, great, but if we don't want to forgive them, that's just fine, and perfectly justified. Call it integrity, call it holding a grudge, maybe it's a bit of both. But we're entitled to feel like this, and we don't need to fall over ourselves rushing to the newsagent to buy the latest issue because they've decided to pretend they're on his side again.
    And as for their possible influence on a reunion, do you really think that Morrissey and Johnny are going to read that article and think, "Good Lord, I had no idea anyone would offer us that kind of money - I'll go and ring X right now!" They know full well how much money it would generate, and they always have, this won't be news to them.
    (And now just to alienate anyone who has agreed with me thus far, I'll add that, personally, the idea of a Smiths 'reunion' makes me shudder, much as I love them - although a Morrissey/Marr collaboration is something that does sound very interesting.)

    ~8
    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @06:12PM (#39932)
  • when Morrissey plays with those s*ucker journalist.

    Never asked, bwahhaahaaahaaa
    Celibate Cry <[email protected]> -- Tuesday September 10 2002, @08:45PM (#39957)
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    and the hills are alive with celibate cries
  • He said the same in the mojo interview he did about 18 months ago. nme = teh suck.
    bruce <[email protected]> -- Wednesday September 11 2002, @12:05AM (#39987)
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  • http://arcane.morrissey-solo.com/moz/interviews/1994/hello.htm

    From "Hello Cruel World" (Q, April 1994):

    Q: So, you and Johnny are friends again. Could ever become partners again?

    Morrissey: We may invest in an allotment together at some point but as far as six nights at the London Palladium goes, I do not think so. And why should we? Can you name one reunion that ever worked...apart from Pentangle?

    It would appear that his opinion of reunions has only grown more rancorous in the years since the court case (IE, the Rocky Mountain News article). One may dream...but one would be well advised not to hold one's breath.

    Cheers,

    Jamie
    Jamie <[email protected]> -- Wednesday September 11 2002, @10:29AM (#40061)
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  • The Smiths reforming would be horrible and pointless and go against everything they ever stood for. Would a Smiths concert be better than a Morrissey concert? I don't think so. For one thing live they were never as good as on record and secondly such a concert would bring all kinds of horrible people out of the woodwork to attend. YUK!
    As far as recorded work goes if they ever made another record (i'm sorry the whole idea hurts) and it was rubbish (or even average) it would ruin their very near perfect catalogue, something almost every other band doesn't have to worry about!
    Don't do it Mike. I know they want you back because your talent is so prodigious and that is really what this is all about, but don't do it. You can do with out those greedy creeps, go on with the (solo career) plans you already have in place.
    Yours lovingly (as ever)
    Rico -- Thursday September 12 2002, @06:36AM (#40236)
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