Worst Michael Jackson Single

[Light Housework]

I've been packing on the fat lately, but I feel better after seeing Al making light of being fat.

 

[Fake C]

Depends what you mean by "nothing better to do." Seems like that whole notion is a zero sum game when queried by a stranger on a fan forum to another stranger on a fan forum. I mean, are any of us here because our lives depend on it? Except for Light Housework, I mean? And on that note, why don't you ask HER if SHE has nothing better to do than tell extremely personal stories about her rapes and near-deaths and all of her abusers, blah blah blah. Seems to me that if you wanna advocate for someone finding better uses of his or her time, she's the one you should be pointing a finger at. You're one of those white knight mooks who immediately rushes to the aid of any woman you perceive as being bullied because it helps you salvage what's left of your masculinity. Good on you. Hope it works out. But leave me out of it.

You seem really agitated. I'm going to tell the nurse not to let you have sugary drinks after 3pm.

Also you have redefined "nothing better to do" by arguing about the definition of "nothing better to do." And "arguing" should be in quotes too, but it seemed like too much.

 

[Fake C]

 

[Fake C]

 

[Fake C]

I think Twiggy is wearing a Bumpit under that wig.

 

[Skylarker]

You seem really agitated. I'm going to tell the nurse not to let you have sugary drinks after 3pm.

Also you have redefined "nothing better to do" by arguing about the definition of "nothing better to do." And "arguing" should be in quotes too, but it seemed like too much.

What a zinger.

 

[Skylarker]

she's not talented. i know a thing or two about art. she is no artist.

I was being nice.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

I was being nice.

ah! i see!

 

[Fake C]

 

[Fake C]

 

[Skylarker]

See, that thumbnail is why I think it's ridiculous how much crap Morrissey gets for having aged. I think he still looks great. Motherf***er is 63! Meanwhile look at that old hag. Same age as Morrissey and in her day arguably the most beautiful pop star alive. Now she resembles a mongoloid Muppet. Christ how the mighty have fallen. Time is a bitch, ladies!

 

[nicky wire's legs]

See, that thumbnail is why I think it's ridiculous how much crap Morrissey gets for having aged. I think he still looks great. Motherf***er is 63! Meanwhile look at that old hag. Same age as Morrissey and in her day arguably the most beautiful pop star alive. Now she resembles a mongoloid Muppet. Christ how the mighty have fallen. Time is a bitch, ladies!

your misogyny hits the wrong note, especially after you've just made it clear that your visual judgment ("you're so talented, light housework!!") is not to be taken seriously.

actually, in that picture, she's aged about the same as morrissey. same jowls, same lumpy face. i would say there is a difference in that madges upper face still looks very taught and youthful (whether that's the result of fillers i dont know), whereas mozzer's doesnt. she only looks like she's aged worse to YOU, because you have the idea that women should be pristine forever, while men, in your mind, are allowed to age. this is called misogyny, and it's gross.

also, madonna was never what i would categorize as being beautiful. she was great looking, had style, vivacity, clean, well-defined features. but a beauty? not really. she was always a little butch, always had it in her to be a "mongoloid muppet".

on the other hand, isabelle huppert is 69 and liz hayes 66, and both are still incredibly attractive women. i would say both have aged better than david bowie at their ages, and he was easily the most beautiful man ever. also, check out how fellow "most beautiful man ever" alain delon aged. not like ms. huppert, that's for sure. time is a bitch, fellows!

now remove your informative rating from his post, @Born to Harangue, because it wasnt! !!!!

 

[nicky wire's legs]

also, lets not forget 72 year old anna wintour!!

 

[nicky wire's legs]

even 65 year old lionel shriver who never made any claims to beauty or glamour still looks great

 

[nicky wire's legs]

i could go on!!

 

[nicky wire's legs]

those should've been all love ratings, honey bunny!!!! (though i SUPPOSE ill accept that and not make you get into your cage)

 

[Skylarker]

your misogyny hits the wrong note, especially after you've just made it clear that your visual judgment ("you're so talented, light housework!!") is not to be taken seriously.

actually, in that picture, she's aged about the same as morrissey. same jowls, same lumpy face. i would say there is a difference in that madges upper face still looks very taught and youthful (whether that's the result of fillers i dont know), whereas mozzer's doesnt. she only looks like she's aged worse to YOU, because you have the idea that women should be pristine forever, while men, in your mind, are allowed to age. this is called misogyny, and it's gross.

also, madonna was never what i would categorize as being beautiful. she was great looking, had style, vivacity, clean, well-defined features. but a beauty? not really. she was always a little butch, always had it in her to be a "mongoloid muppet".

on the other hand, isabelle huppert is 69 and liz hayes 66, and both are still incredibly attractive women. i would say both have aged better than david bowie at their ages, and he was easily the most beautiful man ever. also, check out how fellow "most beautiful man ever" alain delon aged. not like ms. huppert, that's for sure. time is a bitch, fellows!

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now remove your informative rating from his post, @Born to Harangue, because it wasnt! !!!!

All of your comments are subjective. What am I supposed to say about you disagreeing that Madonna wasn't that beautiful? To me that's absurd but that's your opinion and it's no big deal. I'm not going to waste time arguing about her nor am I particularly interested in your random examples of other old ladies who "still look great." Maybe they look great FOR OLD LADIES. But that doesn't mean they look "good" as in sexually attractive or as potential mates.

Where I will take slight issue is with you calling my comments about women losing their sex appeal as they age misogynistic, MOSTLY because I was joking with the "time is a bitch" line. But also, I don't see how "facts" can be misogynistic. MOST men tend to age better than ALL women. Granted, we all look like total shit after 70, but most women are not even remotely appealing after the age of 40/45. That can be somewhat staved off if they exercise, don't smoke or drink, and haven't had 38 kids, but let's face it: nature does not need women to be attractive after their child bearing years have expired, and a result most of them fall into a sharp decline. This is very basic stuff. Pretty sure Schopenhauer wrote a big thing about this too, and not on a Morrissey forum.

And sure, men peak physically too, but they do not lose their appeal to women anywhere NEAR to the same age as women lose theirs to men, and that's because men's sex appeal is not wholly predicated on looks. Whereas, let's be honest, women's are. No (non desperate) guy ever looked at a middle aged woman or a fat woman and said "oh man, be my wife, I MUST HAVE THAT PUSSY" etc etc because she was smart, or had a good job, or was a good provider, or was super social and confident, etc etc. Those are traits that WOMEN find attractive in MEN, not the other way around. That's not misogyny. It's nature. It's reality. You might not like it but it's true.

Look at Gracie Slick, Debbie Harry, Kate Bush, many others...at one time supernaturally beautiful women. Now? Ha. Whereas most of their male peers, though obviously past their prime, are still totally viable and arguably still attractive to women...even YOUNG women. Why do you think the May/December dynamic is skewed so heavily with the women in the May part, and almost NEVER in the December part? I'll tell you why. It's because Harold and Maude was a fairy tale.

And yeah we can argue about subjective opinion, and exceptions to the rule, and all that, but OVERALL there is just no debate that time is far crueler to women than it is to men. So, if you're going to call someone a misogynist, lob it in Mother Nature's direction. Not mine.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

All of your comments are subjective. What am I supposed to say about you disagreeing that Madonna wasn't that beautiful? To me that's absurd but that's your opinion and it's no big deal. I'm not going to waste time arguing about her nor am I particularly interested in your random examples of other old ladies who "still look great." Maybe they look great FOR OLD LADIES. But that doesn't mean they look "good" as in sexually attractive or as potential mates.

Where I will take slight issue is with you calling my comments about women losing their sex appeal as they age misogynistic, MOSTLY because I was joking with the "time is a bitch" line. But also, I don't see how "facts" can be misogynistic. MOST men tend to age better than ALL women. Granted, we all look like total shit after 70, but most women are not even remotely appealing after the age of 40/45. That can be somewhat staved off if they exercise, don't smoke or drink, and haven't had 38 kids, but let's face it: nature does not need women to be attractive after their child bearing years have expired, and a result most of them fall into a sharp decline. This is very basic stuff. Pretty sure Schopenhauer wrote a big thing about this too, and not on a Morrissey forum.

And sure, men peak physically too, but they do not lose their appeal to women anywhere NEAR to the same age as women lose theirs to men, and that's because men's sex appeal is not wholly predicated on looks. Whereas, let's be honest, women's are. No (non desperate) guy ever looked at a middle aged woman or a fat woman and said "oh man, be my wife, I MUST HAVE THAT PUSSY" etc etc because she was smart, or had a good job, or was a good provider, or was super social and confident, etc etc. Those are traits that WOMEN find attractive in MEN, not the other way around. That's not misogyny. It's nature. It's reality. You might not like it but it's true.

Look at Gracie Slick, Debbie Harry, Kate Bush, many others...at one time supernaturally beautiful women. Now? Ha. Whereas most of their male peers, though obviously past their prime, are still totally viable and arguably still attractive to women...even YOUNG women. Why do you think the May/December dynamic is skewed so heavily with the women in the May part, and almost NEVER in the December part? I'll tell you why. It's because Harold and Maude was a fairy tale.

And yeah we can argue about subjective opinion, and exceptions to the rule, and all that, but OVERALL there is just no debate that time is far crueler to women than it is to men. So, if you're going to call someone a misogynist, lob it in Mother Nature's direction. Not mine.

and yet, there are many men with older women. emmanuel macron, hugh jackman, ralph fiennes (francesca annis). all men who could easily get a woman 20 years younger than them.

generally you may be right. but you fail to take into account that people are individuals.

im sure it's very convenient for you, as a man of a certain age, to believe that women are still going to be attracted to you (if indeed they ever were outside of your tupperware party circles). but you shouldnt be so confident. many many women out there would prefer a 20 something male to a 40 something male, i promise you that. you better believe i'd take damian hurley over an idealized (handsomer, more successful, more sophisticated) version of you any day of the week.

and no, im afraid you're not operating under an accurate premise of what beauty is. it is not what makes your cock hard. it is a far loftier thing than that, and madonna does not have it, never has, depsite what your gross sweaty little wiener might think of that.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

in short, you need to think outside your cock, beauty DOES have an objective truth, and has to do with things like extremity of proportion, clean lines, the golden ratio, etc (which is why a blind man can put his hands on a persons face and tell whether they are beautiful or not),--not what makes old baldie star trek guys dick hard.

 

[Skylarker]

and yet, there are many men with older women. emmanuel macron, hugh jackman, ralph fiennes (francesca annis). all men who could easily get a woman 20 years younger than them.

generally you may be right. but you fail to take into account that people are individuals.

im sure it's very convenient for you, as a man of a certain age, to believe that women are still going to be attracted to you (if indeed they ever were outside of your tupperware party circles). but you shouldnt be so confident. many many women out there would prefer a 20 something male to a 40 something male, i promise you that. you better believe i'd take damian hurley over an idealized (handsomer, more successful, more sophisticated) version of you any day of the week.

and no, im afraid you're not operating under an accurate premise of what beauty is. it is not what makes your cock hard. it is a far loftier thing than that, and madonna does not have it, never has, depsite what your gross sweaty little wiener might think of that.

So basically if a guy disagrees with you or or triggers you, you go right for the dick jokes and / or the ad hominim low hanging fruit. Got it.

The thing is, I don't need to "believe" anything. I know what kind of woman I am capable of attracting because I attract them consistently. As consistently in my 20s? No. Moreso. Because...while I was thinner then, younger, had more hair (any hair)...I was not very confident and had very little that would compel a woman to stay. I was shy, antisocial, broke, self conscious, basically a directionless mook. No women want that. Most women are hardwired to want stability and security and a good provider. A guy who is social and stands up for her and pulls his weight and doesn't sit around moping while she foots the bill for everything. The only women who want THAT are lefties who want men they can easily cow. And I use the term "men" with great elasticity.

Times change in that regard for men. They can actually become MORE attractive after their youth fades...because what they lose in looks they gain in other regards. For women, they almost always just go down from the age of 30. Period. If they were ever even up. Maybe for you, they never were up. I don't know; I have no idea what you look like. But that's what I infer by your hairtrigger reaction. And that's OK. Roll of the dice, kiddo! But none of what I said was pointed at you. Do you identify so innately with your gender that you took my remarks THAT personally? Sure seems like it. Yet, I'll reiterate. I wasn't attacking you. But look how quickly you pulled out the old chestnuts of "little dick" blah blah blah blah blah etc etc etc. What a sad, spent arsenal you have.

Last thing I'll say is that yeah, there are always exceptions to the rule. Sure there are some, SOME relationships where the women are significantly older. But those exceptions are rare and do not discount the general way of things. As for beauty, it's whatever I want it to be. See, I have that right of arbitration. Just like you do. So, while YOU might find certain traits appealing, others feel differently.