Why Morrissey Is Dead To Me, By Gene's Martin Rossiter - The Quietus

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Why Morrissey Is Dead To Me, By Gene's Martin Rossiter - The Quietus

Morrissey was an inspiration to Martin Rossiter, whose band Gene share many fans with the former Smith. But after years of right wing blethering from Moz, Martin has had enough

"I feel ashamed and embarrassed that I quietly remained a Morrissey apologist for many years."
 
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The Wild Turkey

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Yes.
Just when the thread started I encountered problems with my eyesight in my left eye. Went to the doctor. After 2 or more consults he found out my retina decided to have his, or her own life without noticing me. I needed chirurgy to have it attached again.
Done this, done that and I am just happy to be able to read the thread again after I found out it was still going on.
I now have a gas bubble in my eye to attach the retina.
It moves around and blurs my eyesight but when all is well it will be vaporized after 7 weeks.
Good times :rolleyes:

Here's to a super recuperation!
 

Theo

Active Member
That band Gene tried very hard to grab a lot of Morrissey fans in Suede fashion in the '90's but their music just wasn't very good. They'd start a a couple songs in promising fashion but they all went nowhere fast, and their albums were boring as hell. No one misses them and they will be completely forgotten.
I'm enjoying Morrissey coming out as pretty much the only pop music star with the guts to speak honestly with no fear. It was way back in 2004 that Theo van Gogh was murdered on his bicycle, and I had a screenname "Theo van Gogh Martyrs Brigade" in his honor and in mockery of the terrorists. I then cut it down to just "Theo". I'm still appalled by what happened to Theo van Gogh and the fact that Ayaan Hirsi Ali (one of the bravest and greatest feminists of our time) must have high security around her 24/7 and on top of that must endure attacks from the Leftists who are having a love affair with the fascists of our time, the Islamists. And there have been so many other atrocities in the years since -- too many to go over, but such as the gay club massacre in Florida and the Charlie Hebdo massacre in France. But it is happening all the time now. Just the other day over 20 men, women, and children were gunned down on a bus in Egypt and it barely got mentioned on the Fake News outlets who want to cover it all up.
It was no surprise that the Manchester atrocity on mostly young girls was committed by someone hooked in to a Manchester pro-ISIS terrorist network that was well-known by all the authorities. He lived in an apartment building that was literally a rat's nest of Muslim terrorists and went to a mosque of more of the same vermin.
This was all known and out in the open but no one did anything about it because the government did not actually view their primary duty as protecting the citizenry. They seem to believe the UK has a moral duty to collectively commit suicide and be taken over by literally the worst scum of the earth.
 
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Anonymous

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He was reported to authorities by members of his mosque including an iman. They arrests a bunch of people but now police think he acted mostly alone in his attack being the components of his bomb himself. He knew his family would also disapprove as he called his mother to apologize for what he was doing. The attack in Egypt has been covered everywhere and Egypt is a lawless violent place so it's no surprise that violent people fester here.
 
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Anonymous

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Why Martin Rossiter's statement is f***ing pointless...

Got to love it when bots get angry.

The best thing about Morrissey releasing his utterly cretinous statements is seeing the bots go into hiding.

The nutjobs like QQQ, Ketchup Bum etc. come out fighting, which is also fun to watch. But the serious bots, the Marreds of this world, they go very, very quiet. You can ask them directly about Morrissey's hypocrisy and lies and money-grabbing greed and his utter contempt for his fans, and the bots shrivel up and dodge all questions.

Occasionally though, they snap, and can't help themselves. Keep it up, Marred. You're the best bot there is.
 

marred

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Got to love it when bots get angry.

The best thing about Morrissey releasing his utterly cretinous statements is seeing the bots go into hiding.

The nutjobs like QQQ, Ketchup Bum etc. come out fighting, which is also fun to watch. But the serious bots, the Marreds of this world, they go very, very quiet. You can ask them directly about Morrissey's hypocrisy and lies and money-grabbing greed and his utter contempt for his fans, and the bots shrivel up and dodge all questions.

Occasionally though, they snap, and can't help themselves. Keep it up, Marred. You're the best bot there is.
I love it when the Mozzerphobes come out, even the anonymous ones! It's so hard to keep track of their bullshit though.
 

Lee Ingram

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Anyone would think Morrissey had turned pedophile listening to liberals views on him, and simply because he has shown concern of mass immigration? he hasn't molested a child or killed anyone, he has just aired his views.

shock horror some one has shown concern of an issue that has overloaded our infrastructure and bought in more tax, levy and slave wage fodder to suffer alongside the long suffering natives, whilst have also colonised areas with Leicester and London having officially an English minority, and has bought terrorism, interracial crime including violent crime, hate crime and murder with plenty of it aimed at the English in particular, plus pedophile grooming gangs that have targeted thousands of predominantly underage English girls for rape and violence,
not to mention the interracial and inter religious pockets of civil unrest, race riots, cultural clashes and segregation, instead of unity,
and all encouraged by a concerning amount of communism/socialism an ideology that has killed more than the Nazis and ruined several countries, plus a multi million pound race relations industry aimed at discriminating against the English, and race laws that are all geared towards protecting the settler communities.

Racism? Does anyone really know the true definition of this word they throw around like confetti, a word used and abused so much that it has lost it'a meaning? It means to deem your race superior to another which is something Morrissey has never committed to.

It is amazing how the so called tolerant liberals find themselves being intolerant of patriotic views which is all very fake, unfair and undemocratic.

Morrissey himself is from an immigrant family to England and along with numbers of other 1st and 2nd generation immigrants have shown concern of immigration.... and so how much longer does this issue have to be ignored, demonised or mocked when immigrants and immigrant's children are stating that immigration has gone too far???
 
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Uncleskinny

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Anyone would think Morrissey had turned pedophile listening to liberals views on him, and simply because he has shown concern of mass immigration? he hasn't molested a child or killed anyone, he has just aired his views.

shock horror some one has shown concern of an issue that has overloaded our infrastructure and bought in more tax, levy and slave wage fodder to suffer alongside the long suffering natives, whilst have also colonised areas with Leicester and London having officially an English minority, and has bought terrorism, interracial crime including violent crime, hate crime and murder with plenty of it aimed at the English in particular, plus pedophile grooming gangs that have targeted thousands of predominantly underage English girls for rape and violence,
not to mention the cultural clashes and segregation, instead of unity
and all encouraged by a concerning amount of communism/socialism an ideology that has killed more than the Nazis and ruined several countries, plus a multi million pound race relations industry aimed at discriminating against the English, and race laws that are all geared towards protecting the settler communities.

Racism? Does anyone really know the true definition of this world they throw around like confetti, a word used and abused so much that it has lost it'a meaning? It means to deem your race superior to another which is something Morrissey has never committed to.

It is amazing how the so called tolerant liberals find themselves being intolerant of patriotic views which is all very fake, unfair and undemocratic.

Morrissey himself is from an immigrant family to England and along with numbers of other 1st and 2nd generation immigrants have shown concern of immigration.... and so how much longer does this issue have to be ignored, demonised or mocked when immigrants and immigrant's children are stating that immigration has gone too far???

Hurrah! Another EDL interloper! f*** OFF RACIST!
 
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Herpes Harmonica

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That band Gene tried very hard to grab a lot of Morrissey fans in Suede fashion in the '90's but their music just wasn't very good. They'd start a a couple songs in promising fashion but they all went nowhere fast, and their albums were boring as hell. No one misses them and they will be completely forgotten.
I'm enjoying Morrissey coming out as pretty much the only pop music star with the guts to speak honestly with no fear. It was way back in 2004 that Theo van Gogh was murdered on his bicycle, and I had a screenname "Theo van Gogh Martyrs Brigade" in his honor and in mockery of the terrorists. I then cut it down to just "Theo". I'm still appalled by what happened to Theo van Gogh and the fact that Ayaan Hirsi Ali (one of the bravest and greatest feminists of our time) must have high security around her 24/7 and on top of that must endure attacks from the Leftists who are having a love affair with the fascists of our time, the Islamists. And there have been so many other atrocities in the years since -- too many to go over, but such as the gay club massacre in Florida and the Charlie Hebdo massacre in France. But it is happening all the time now. Just the other day over 20 men, women, and children were gunned down on a bus in Egypt and it barely got mentioned on the Fake News outlets who want to cover it all up.
It was no surprise that the Manchester atrocity on mostly young girls was committed by someone hooked in to a Manchester pro-ISIS terrorist network that was well-known by all the authorities. He lived in an apartment building that was literally a rat's nest of Muslim terrorists and went to a mosque of more of the same vermin.
This was all known and out in the open but no one did anything about it because the government did not actually view their primary duty as protecting the citizenry. They seem to believe the UK has a moral duty to collectively commit suicide and be taken over by literally the worst scum of the earth.
Agree on Gene and I remember when BG and you had your rows in the solo chatroom.

Visit the new chat again soon!
 
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Herpes Harmonica

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EDL was a vain attempt by some football hooligans to create more time and space where they could fight away from football.
 

bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
Anyone would think Morrissey had turned pedophile listening to liberals views on him, and simply because he has shown concern of mass immigration? he hasn't molested a child or killed anyone, he has just aired his views.

shock horror some one has shown concern of an issue that has overloaded our infrastructure and bought in more tax, levy and slave wage fodder to suffer alongside the long suffering natives, whilst have also colonised areas with Leicester and London having officially an English minority, and has bought terrorism, interracial crime including violent crime, hate crime and murder with plenty of it aimed at the English in particular, plus pedophile grooming gangs that have targeted thousands of predominantly underage English girls for rape and violence,
not to mention the interracial and inter religious pockets of civil unrest, race riots, cultural clashes and segregation, instead of unity,
and all encouraged by a concerning amount of communism/socialism an ideology that has killed more than the Nazis and ruined several countries, plus a multi million pound race relations industry aimed at discriminating against the English, and race laws that are all geared towards protecting the settler communities.

Racism? Does anyone really know the true definition of this word they throw around like confetti, a word used and abused so much that it has lost it'a meaning? It means to deem your race superior to another which is something Morrissey has never committed to.

It is amazing how the so called tolerant liberals find themselves being intolerant of patriotic views which is all very fake, unfair and undemocratic.

Morrissey himself is from an immigrant family to England and along with numbers of other 1st and 2nd generation immigrants have shown concern of immigration.... and so how much longer does this issue have to be ignored, demonised or mocked when immigrants and immigrant's children are stating that immigration has gone too far???

Nice, thoughtful post. I'l assume you'll catch the intolerant 3-year-old throwing-his-toys-out-of-a-pram response below it. It's sad that so much of the left have resorted to this type to immature discourse. It actually borders on mental illness. You write a well reasoned post and what do you get for your troubles? 'f*** off racist!!!' It's actually embarrassing. Having said that, there has been some decent civil discourse between those from the Left and Right over several threads, just don't expect any such levels of maturity from our esteemed moderator Uncle Skinny.
 
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That Man Again

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"Free speech" doesn't mean people must agree with your opinions. Nor does it mean tolerating any character just because they have something to say.

When people complain about "free speech" like this, what they are really complaining about is any criticism of their speech.

People are not suppressing your views. People are criticizing them. If that criticism hurts your feelings, or damages you socially in some way, those are the consequences of saying what you feel. It's why everyone should consider their opinions carefully before blurting them out in fits of anger, or whatever motivates them to join the discussion.

The world has enough baseless opinions. If you don't want to be judged by your opinions, then don't share them. You must always be prepared to justify yourself when giving an opinion. Again, if you don't want to do that, then remain silent.

Tolerance isn't about pretending someone's opinion is valid. It's about tolerating their right to even have one. Beyond that, you will be judged by your values in the social realm where people must choose their friends carefully.

It has always been this way, and it will always be this way.

Get over yourselves.
 
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That Man Again

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"It's sad that so much of the left have resorted to this type to immature discourse. It actually borders on mental illness. You write a well reasoned post and what do you get for your troubles? 'f*** off racist!!!' It's actually embarrassing."

Childishness is making outrageous statements comparing criticism of Morrissey and his open support of white nationalist candidates to calling him a pedophile.

Childishness is comparing a similar bombing in Norway to the meat industry.

Childishness is going on, and on about being called a racist when you support, or tolerate open white nationalist candidates because you think getting blown up is a greater threat to you than the rest of your domestic policy.

Also, I haven't see you do much debating. You're mostly articulating your own resentment without addressing the criticisms applied to you. You've offered no solutions. You're wallowing in some frustrated state of wanting revenge, but not knowing how to achieve it.

There is no left bogeyman trying to paint all of you as racists, or monsters. People are rightfully concerned about fear-mongering, and ceding power to ideologues out of fear, and resentment.

This obsession with "social justice warriors" is ridiculous, and petty. It's something college age males without friends obsesses over. There's an infinitely number of more important issues to focus your anger and attention on that something so inconsequential. It's not a mainstream issue. It's not a party platform.

We watched a President use fear mongering about extremists, and middle eastern people to justify invading an unrelated country that resulted in long-term disaster for their own interests, and the world. The public didn't question it because they were told how crucial it was for their own safety. The same is happening today.

We've seen this movie before, but some of you are either too young to have perspective on it, or you were never paying attention in the first place.

Grow up.
 

marred

Member
Nice, thoughtful post. I'l assume you'll catch the intolerant 3-year-old throwing-his-toys-out-of-a-pram response below it. It's sad that so much of the left have resorted to this type to immature discourse. It actually borders on mental illness. You write a well reasoned post and what do you get for your troubles? 'f*** off racist!!!' It's actually embarrassing. Having said that, there has been some decent civil discourse between those from the Left and Right over several threads, just don't expect any such levels of maturity from our esteemed moderator Uncle Skinny.
All well said but can we leave the mentally ill out of it when calling out the mentally stupid. I know I've said this before but they have enough difficulty living their lives without being touted as stupid as well.

Mentally stupid and mentally ill couldn't be more different.
 

bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
"It's sad that so much of the left have resorted to this type to immature discourse. It actually borders on mental illness. You write a well reasoned post and what do you get for your troubles? 'f*** off racist!!!' It's actually embarrassing."

Childishness is making outrageous statements comparing criticism of Morrissey and his open support of white nationalist candidates to calling him a pedophile.

Childishness is comparing a similar bombing in Norway to the meat industry.

Childishness is going on, and on about being called a racist when you support, or tolerate open white nationalist candidates because you think getting blown up is a greater threat to you than the rest of your domestic policy.

Also, I haven't see you do much debating. You're mostly articulating your own resentment without addressing the criticisms applied to you. You've offered no solutions. You're wallowing in some frustrated state of wanting revenge, but not knowing how to achieve it.

There is no left bogeyman trying to paint all of you as racists, or monsters. People are rightfully concerned about fear-mongering, and ceding power to ideologues out of fear, and resentment.

This obsession with "social justice warriors" is ridiculous, and petty. It's something college age males without friends obsesses over. There's an infinitely number of more important issues to focus your anger and attention on that something so inconsequential. It's not a mainstream issue. It's not a party platform.

We watched a President use fear mongering about extremists, and middle eastern people to justify invading an unrelated country that resulted in long-term disaster for their own interests, and the world. The public didn't question it because they were told how crucial it was for their own safety. The same is happening today.

We've seen this movie before, but some of you are either too young to have perspective on it, or you were never paying attention in the first place.

Grow up.
Debating? All I've seen you do is throw out inaccurate fallacies such as 'this board has suddenly attracted a lot of white nationalists to it.' Proof? Nothing. Which 'white nationalist' candidate has Morrissey supported? If you're about to name farage I'd be interested to see a quote from him where he has specifically said that England is only for white people. Again more virtue signalling from the left.

'There is no left bogeyman trying to paint all of you as racists, or monsters.' Although I hesitate to call him a 'bogeyman' (again this is a title that you have made up) look at practically every response Peter has made to anyone on these threads. he simply cal;ls them a 'Nazi.' Feel free to go onto any message board out there that discusses the issue of immigration, student rallies etc and the term 'Nazi' is thrown around to anyone that holds what I believe to be legitimate concerns about mass immigration. IIt's careless and irresponsible and closes down valuable debate.

You made a point in an earlier post about how peaceful Europe had been in the last 30 years under the current Euro regime. yeah it's working out so well for countries like Greece, Italy and Spain. Economies are really struggling under the Euro system, immigration policies which has been going on unfettered for the past 30 years are now coming home to roost. Do you really feel like France, Germany, Britain etc feel safer now than say 10 years ago? How do you thing centre right ideologies emerge? Froma few snazzy speeches and meme campaigns? There is a level of discord and disharmony from people who live in districts like Rinkeby which is very real and not just some made-up rightwing campaign to somehow pull Europe to pieces.
 

bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
"Free speech" doesn't mean people must agree with your opinions. Nor does it mean tolerating any character just because they have something to say.

When people complain about "free speech" like this, what they are really complaining about is any criticism of their speech.

People are not suppressing your views. People are criticizing them. If that criticism hurts your feelings, or damages you socially in some way, those are the consequences of saying what you feel. It's why everyone should consider their opinions carefully before blurting them out in fits of anger, or whatever motivates them to join the discussion.

The world has enough baseless opinions. If you don't want to be judged by your opinions, then don't share them. You must always be prepared to justify yourself when giving an opinion. Again, if you don't want to do that, then remain silent.

Tolerance isn't about pretending someone's opinion is valid. It's about tolerating their right to even have one. Beyond that, you will be judged by your values in the social realm where people must choose their friends carefully.

It has always been this way, and it will always be this way.

Get over yourselves.
Free speech is under attack like never before on American campuses and I'm afraid I see the virus spreading out all over the world.
 

Calamine Lotion

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Free speech is under attack like never before on American campuses and I'm afraid I see the virus spreading out all over the world.
You really have to be careful about the hyperbole. Free speech was certainly under attack more during the Nixon era with examples like Kent State. The truth is both sides want to control the dialog, who can speak and what they have a right to say. It's not like the right are so tolerant of differing views and the left are nasty closed-minded little fascists.
Despite President Trump's election things are generally moving towards the left and have been for at least half a century. People don't really believe in Trump. He's an embarrassment. He was simply the furthest thing available from Hillary and Obama. He has emboldened a lot of people that might have been afraid to state their views before and he does an exceptional job at getting people involved in the political process. I don't like him or respect him and I think he's bad for the country but I'll give the devil his due. He knows how to campaign.
But let's not let our differing views on Trump be an issue. I think we both support free speech and although I'm left and you're right I think we're both willing to call out the more ridiculous examples of turning a blind eye to the truth.
In my opinion the reason that certain groups are called out on everything by the left while at the same time they will ignore other groups who are at least as egregious and harmful is because certain groups are considered not to really matter. It isn't because of the great respect that might be had for their opinions; it's the exact opposite. Could any white public figure have survived the Tawana Brawley debacle? Rev Al Sharpton is still a respected (sort of) public figure. It's not because he made a mistake and it was forgiven. It's because no one thinks he is expected to know any better and no one thinks his opinion on anything matters.
You will see this again and again. I think it's why liberals hesitate to call out Muslims for being anti-gay, anti-equality, BUT at the same time where are the right wingers calling out Mike Pence? What a ridiculous caricature of a brain-dead Christian idiot that guy is. Gay re-education? What a moron.
The US is in big trouble with the outright thieves and morons that are holding the highest offices.
 

AztecCamera

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Reckon Republic of Ireland sucks in kickball. Reckon I am not rooting for Mexico, but Mexico is kicking their ass (arse). Reckon why do all you big Brit/Euro people who can't run play this game? Reckon it is a game for little lads like Mexicans.
 
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