What 1 non-Moz penned song, most makes you want to melt like chocolate into another person?

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More Than This, Roxy Music

I could feel at the time
There was no way of knowing
Fallen leaves in the night
Who can say where they´re blowing
As free as the wind
And hopefully learning
Why the sea on the tide
Has no way of turning
More than this - there is nothing
More than this - tell me one thing
More than this - there is nothing
It was fun for a while
There was no way of knowing
Like dream in the night
Who can say where we´re going
No care in the world
Maybe i´m learning
Why the sea on the tide
Has no way of turning
More than this - there is nothing
More than this - tell me one thing
More than this - there is nothing
 
I read the title of your link and i was thinking of More Than This! There is something other-worldly about that song. Amazing

> More Than This, Roxy Music

> I could feel at the time
> There was no way of knowing
> Fallen leaves in the night
> Who can say where they´re blowing
> As free as the wind
> And hopefully learning
> Why the sea on the tide
> Has no way of turning
> More than this - there is nothing
> More than this - tell me one thing
> More than this - there is nothing
> It was fun for a while
> There was no way of knowing
> Like dream in the night
> Who can say where we´re going
> No care in the world
> Maybe i´m learning
> Why the sea on the tide
> Has no way of turning
> More than this - there is nothing
> More than this - tell me one thing
> More than this - there is nothing
 
Definitely "Only You" by Portishead...

We suffer everyday, what is it for
These crimes of illusion, are fooling us all
And now I am weary and I feel like I do

It's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

The size of our fight, it's just a dream
We've crushed everything I can see, in this morning selfishly
How we've failed and I feel like I do

It's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

Now that we've chosen to take all we can
This shade of autumn, a stale bitter end
Years of frustration lay down side by side

And it's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

It's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

very sensual song
 
Have you got any info on the next Portishead album ? It has been in the pipeline for ages and ages now.

I'm not sure I have any definate choices for myself, probebly 'Friends' by The Photos.

> Definitely "Only You" by Portishead...

> We suffer everyday, what is it for
> These crimes of illusion, are fooling us all
> And now I am weary and I feel like I do

> It's only you, who can tell me apart
> And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

> The size of our fight, it's just a dream
> We've crushed everything I can see, in this morning selfishly
> How we've failed and I feel like I do

> It's only you, who can tell me apart
> And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

> Now that we've chosen to take all we can
> This shade of autumn, a stale bitter end
> Years of frustration lay down side by side

> And it's only you, who can tell me apart
> And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

> It's only you, who can tell me apart
> And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

> very sensual song
 
'Mars Bars' by The Undertones

Only kidding...

A few Billy Bragg tracks spring to mind, particularly 'Must I Paint You A
Picture' and 'Moving The Goalposts'.
Possibly 'Carnt Sleep' and 'Hobart Paving' by Saint Etienne
 
> More Than This, Roxy Music

I must say, as nice as that is, early (70's) Roxy blows away every later Roxy (80's) tune!!

Listen to 'In every dream home a heartache'!!! How true is that in some homes..
'Both Ends Burning' (for those late night passionate moments)..

I love the words to 'the Power Of Love' by Frankie Goes The Hollywood (is this a crime?!) That melts my soul sometimes..

'let yourself be beautiful..'

Ruffian
 
> I must say, as nice as that is, early (70's) Roxy blows away every later
> Roxy (80's) tune!!

> Listen to 'In every dream home a heartache'!!! How true is that in some
> homes..
> 'Both Ends Burning' (for those late night passionate moments)..

> I love the words to 'the Power Of Love' by Frankie Goes The Hollywood (is
> this a crime?!) That melts my soul sometimes..

> 'let yourself be beautiful..'

> Ruffian

We've not had any banter for a wee while Ruff, so when did you get into Roxy's pre-1976 stuff?? I know how old you are and your suburban/heavy metal leanings at the time, so be honest.

Anyway, that was five great albums in three-and-a-half years!!! Which blows the "difficult second/third album" cliche out of the water. If you've got the talent,it won't be a problem.

Ok, my non-Moz song to do that melting chocolate thing to - hmmmmm....
Welcome Home by Peters & Lee
Save Your Love by Renee & Renata
Summer Nights by John & Olivia
It Ain't Me Babe by Sonny & Cher
Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me by George & Elton
 
Re: Roxy Music, and Punk.. school of rock..

> We've not had any banter for a wee while Ruff, so when did you get into
> Roxy's pre-1976 stuff?? I know how old you are and your suburban/heavy
> metal leanings at the time, so be honest.

Well, probably discovered Roxy about 1989 (;-))!! Did you ever see em in their prime? Got the double live album recently (a demo version) and they still rock.. Song for europe, Mother of Pearl, out of the blue, pyjamarama, street life.. what great songs.. and I just lurve the manic bits of 'Ladytron' (which I admit was before my time, that was recent discovery)

> Anyway, that was five great albums in three-and-a-half years!!! Which
> blows the "difficult second/third album" cliche out of the
> water. If you've got the talent,it won't be a problem.

What's your favourite proper Roxy album.. I always thought they were patchy.. like 2-3 magnificent songs and the rest were a bit 'filler-esque' for me. Wild extremes.

I may have some punk cred for you.. my local paper (see post above about aliens(!)) is collecting people's experiences that went with the punk crowd from Bromley/Sidcup into town, including luminaries such as Billy Idol and Siouxsie sioux.. You'd be surpirsed at the movement in Suburbia here. There was a lot of anger (if our Mums let us!). A bloke I went to school with used to go to the gigs (unlike me) with his cool uncle who also managed the Slits.. which I though was pretty cool.

Can you see the real me??
Ruffian

PS, the Only Ones.. Got hold of the Immortal Story.. I'd only give it a 6.5 out of 10 though.. or a 3 stars out of 5! Not as good as the stranglers, or arguably, Wire. 'No solution' is great song though.. (now I am being retro again as you know!!)
PPS, and seriously dude (in keeping with the film), Go see 'School of Rock' if you want a heavy metal laugh.. all my mates are like Jack Black!
 
Re: Roxy Music, and Punk.. school of rock..

> Well, probably discovered Roxy about 1989 (;-))!! Did you ever see em in
> their prime?

The first gig I ever went to was Roxy at the tail-end of 75, Ruff. Their fifth album, 'Siren',had just been released.

Got the double live album recently (a demo version) and they
> still rock.. Song for europe, Mother of Pearl, out of the blue,
> pyjamarama, street life.. what great songs.. and I just lurve the manic
> bits of 'Ladytron' (which I admit was before my time, that was recent
> discovery)

> What's your favourite proper Roxy album.. I always thought they were
> patchy.. like 2-3 magnificent songs and the rest were a bit 'filler-esque'
> for me. Wild extremes.

I can't choose between the first two, 'Roxy Music' and 'For Your Pleasure'. But all first five albums do it for me. In those dark days, there was little else for lovers of catchy, intelligent pop. I was never into the 'rock' stuff.

Lou Reed's 'walk.....' blew me away in 73. Worth remembering that people like myself had never heard of him, so when I started reading up on him and found out about The Velvets, I chased up their stuff too. Which wasn't easy at the time. Having to deal with saturday workers in wee record shops (no know-it-all students behind the counter in megastores in those days, kids) could drive one of those buddhist chaps to...well, you get the general idea.
Back to Roxy - when they reformed after Ferry's wee solo stint , I think they came to a calculated, conscious decision to get as far away from punk as possible and go for the 'smug couples' market.
Hence the post-77 mush like 'more than this', which is praised at the beginning of the thread (this board never ceases to amaze me).
But anyway, it worked for them. Worth remembering that the vast majority of our, well okay - MY age group were anti-punk at the time. They might have liked the front-page notoriety of the pistols, and the stranglers songs on totp, but it didn't go any further than that. No early hits for the Clash or The Damned or The Buzzcocks, among others.

> I may have some punk cred for you.. my local paper (see post above about
> aliens(!)) is collecting people's experiences that went with the punk
> crowd from Bromley/Sidcup into town, including luminaries such as Billy
> Idol and Siouxsie sioux.. You'd be surpirsed at the movement in Suburbia
here. There was a lot of anger (if our Mums let us!).

That reminds me of the novelty song from 1978, "I want to be a punk rocker but my mammy won't let me" by Andy Cameron.
I know it's from 1978 because it's the b-side of the Scotland world-cup squad song "We're on the march with Ally's army" !!!

A bloke I went to
> school with used to go to the gigs (unlike me) with his cool uncle who
> also managed the Slits.. which I though was pretty cool.

> Can you see the real me??
> Ruffian

> PS, the Only Ones.. Got hold of the Immortal Story.. I'd only give it a
> 6.5 out of 10 though.. or a 3 stars out of 5! Not as good as the
> stranglers, or arguably, Wire. 'No solution' is great song though.. (now I
> am being retro again as you know!!)
> PPS, and seriously dude (in keeping with the film), Go see 'School of
> Rock' if you want a heavy metal laugh.. all my mates are like Jack Black!
I would advise you to get the first two Only Ones albums, Ruff, but you might not like them as much as I do. Each to their own. (I'm very liberal, y'know.)

I don't even know what's on 'The Immortal Story', though I would guess 90% of it will be from those two. Since I suffered the ignorance of shop staff on a regular basis throughout the punk era, there's no need for me to buy compilations, best ofs, etc.
One question - that handsign that the heavy mob do with their pinkie (that's 'little finger' to my English readers) and their forefinger. What does that mean, if anything? I think it's really twattish, but I'm curious just the same.
Oh,one more question. Did you ever put your thumbs in your belt loops and do that bend-from-side-to-side-and-let-my-hair-fly-about-all-over-the-place dance?? Be honest now.
 
Re: Roxy Music, and Punk.. school of rock..

The Immortal Story contains quite a lot of songs towards the end of the CD which are for collectors only really.

I second your opinion of the first 2 Only Ones albums, the debut and 'Even Serpents Shine' are 2 of my favourites, the third 'Babys Got A Gun' isn't as good, but still contains a number of superb tracks.

One day the world will acknowledge the true greatness of Peter Perrett - err maybe.

> The first gig I ever went to was Roxy at the tail-end of 75, Ruff. Their
> fifth album, 'Siren',had just been released.

> Got the double live album recently (a demo version) and they

> I can't choose between the first two, 'Roxy Music' and 'For Your
> Pleasure'. But all first five albums do it for me. In those dark days,
> there was little else for lovers of catchy, intelligent pop. I was never
> into the 'rock' stuff.

> Lou Reed's 'walk.....' blew me away in 73. Worth remembering that people
> like myself had never heard of him, so when I started reading up on him
> and found out about The Velvets, I chased up their stuff too. Which wasn't
> easy at the time. Having to deal with saturday workers in wee record shops
> (no know-it-all students behind the counter in megastores in those days,
> kids) could drive one of those buddhist chaps to...well, you get the
> general idea.
> Back to Roxy - when they reformed after Ferry's wee solo stint , I think
> they came to a calculated, conscious decision to get as far away from punk
> as possible and go for the 'smug couples' market.
> Hence the post-77 mush like 'more than this', which is praised at the
> beginning of the thread (this board never ceases to amaze me).
> But anyway, it worked for them. Worth remembering that the vast majority
> of our, well okay - MY age group were anti-punk at the time. They might
> have liked the front-page notoriety of the pistols, and the stranglers
> songs on totp, but it didn't go any further than that. No early hits for
> the Clash or The Damned or The Buzzcocks, among others.
> here. There was a lot of anger (if our Mums let us!).

> That reminds me of the novelty song from 1978, "I want to be a punk
> rocker but my mammy won't let me" by Andy Cameron.
> I know it's from 1978 because it's the b-side of the Scotland world-cup
> squad song "We're on the march with Ally's army" !!!

> A bloke I went to
> I would advise you to get the first two Only Ones albums, Ruff, but you
> might not like them as much as I do. Each to their own. (I'm very liberal,
> y'know.)

> I don't even know what's on 'The Immortal Story', though I would guess 90%
> of it will be from those two. Since I suffered the ignorance of shop staff
> on a regular basis throughout the punk era, there's no need for me to buy
> compilations, best ofs, etc.
> One question - that handsign that the heavy mob do with their pinkie
> (that's 'little finger' to my English readers) and their forefinger. What
> does that mean, if anything? I think it's really twattish, but I'm curious
> just the same.
> Oh,one more question. Did you ever put your thumbs in your belt loops and
> do that
> bend-from-side-to-side-and-let-my-hair-fly-about-all-over-the-place
> dance?? Be honest now.
 
The Sundays : When I'm thinking about you

absolutely beautiful and from a great album
 
FAO PM... Of things heavy in rock.. Dancing styles and MORE!

> The first gig I ever went to was Roxy at the tail-end of 75, Ruff. Their
> Lou Reed's 'walk.....' blew me away in 73. Worth remembering that people
> like myself had never heard of him, so when I started reading up on him
> and found out about The Velvets, I chased up their stuff too. Which wasn't
> easy at the time. Having to deal with saturday workers in wee record shops
> (no know-it-all students behind the counter in megastores in those days,
> kids) could drive one of those buddhist chaps to...well, you get the
> general idea.
> Back to Roxy - when they reformed after Ferry's wee solo stint , I think
> have liked the front-page notoriety of the pistols, and the stranglers
> songs on totp, but it didn't go any further than that. No early hits for
> the Clash or The Damned or The Buzzcocks, among others.
> here. There was a lot of anger (if our Mums let us!).

I don't even know what's on 'The Immortal Story', though I would guess 90%
> of it will be from those two. Since I suffered the ignorance of shop staff
> on a regular basis throughout the punk era, there's no need for me to buy
> compilations, best ofs, etc.
> One question - that handsign that the heavy mob do with their pinkie
> (that's 'little finger' to my English readers) and their forefinger. What
> does that mean, if anything? I think it's really twattish, but I'm curious
> just the same.
> Oh,one more question. Did you ever put your thumbs in your belt loops and
> do that
> bend-from-side-to-side-and-let-my-hair-fly-about-all-over-the-place
> dance?? Be honest now.

Thanks for the generally informative post sir.. As usual.. Your gigging experience exceeds expectation. Ferry and the boys must've been glamm'd up when you saw them. Ferry was way cool in the 70's back in those olde worlde pop music days.. Possibly the coolest cat in town. Even Cooler than Bowie who I love as well.. who had the image, but ferry was cool, He got the girl sotospeak...

You're referring to the heavy metal call sign of the 'devil horn' I believe .. That's beyond my day by a country mile mate. It's something spawned from the new metallers I'd say of today and the 90's. Possibly an American import! In my simple day, we had the V sign (copyright of Woodstock) and maybe a box of bryant & May to hold aloft and burn your fingers too.. (then again, no smoking, far too young!) haha.. I even avoided drugs somehow. I recall a Hawkwind gig at Hammersmith where the crowd, curiously, wore doctor's coats.. I sat there innocently rolling up my bus ticketinto a neat tube (just to occupy myself) and this extreme hippie lurched from behind me, came from noweher, and there he was, over my shoulder asking for a 'drag'.. I remember feeling quite scared! But i still gave it to him and off he shuffled, sucking on my '89 bus', ticket.

Second question.. The infamous Shoulder bop you refer too.. haha.. again, popularised by the Angels contingent who certianly had the hair, and adopted big style by the denim hordes of the Quo army.. (i'm telling this tongue in cheek I hope you know).. well, I don't think there is any photo's out there, so I'll deny it. Maybe once or twice in abreat big long chain.. and then 20 years later, line dancing to dwight Yoakim and Billy ray Cyrus was invented. Same fetish, different tune!

At least with Smiths/Morrissey, it's 'free for all' expression of manic dancing.. maybe even knocking a pint out of a bystanders hand for good measure. Not quite Tim Booth in his mad dancin hey day, but getting there!

Now, I fancy myself in a moz Solo dance off..!! haha Take on all you Manc scallies.. too much Bez I think to mount a serious challenge! haha

THE Ruffian

PS, I agree, 'More Than This'.. far too twee.. 'Love is the drug' is still pretty awesome as popular Roxy though to this day.. and 'Avalon' was fairly atmospheric for latter day roxy work. You allude to Roxy being punk though?? Surely more prog rock than you'd care to admit???
 
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