Warsaw - Stodola (Nov. 19, 2014) post-show

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Set List:


The Queen Is Dead / Speedway / Suedehead / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / World Peace Is None Of Your Business / Staircase At The University

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I think overall there are greater elements at play. If rumour is to be believed his bassist thumped him for chrissakes. Now how does that happen? I don't think both events are mutually exclusive. I get the feeling that Morrissey is not well mentally right now and it is the slightest thing that sends him off. It's a shame because he's sending his career down the toilet and the words of Grant Showbiz sound more prophetic with every passing year. He's just made what many fans believe to be one of the finest albums of his career, his band do sound like fairly tight unit these days and he should be riding high on the cusp of yet another creative Renaissance. Instead we get musicians leaving under dubious circumstances and Morrissey leaving the stage over what common consensus from concert goers wasn't even an abusive comment. It's just sad.
 
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Oh dear.. I was there and it was most unfortunate mistake

and misunderstanding, I believe caused by the nuances of

English language. I am sure that the fan who shouted to

Morrissey "don't talk, sing!" meant no offence and no harm,

and I guess it was supposed to be a humorous, spontanous

thing to say out of excitement, but it sounded like an

offence and great disrespect to Morrissey. I can understand

that. I was devastated that he left, but I think it was as,

if not more, hearbreaking for Morrissey and his crew as it

was for the fans. We love you Mozza, you know it, please

come back to us <3
 
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Just read this on Twitter, the gig was apparently stopped tonight by Morrissey :



I suppose Mozz will be much critized for this ?

Another tweet :



And this one :



This is truly sad for everybody : the singer, the audience. What the hell happened ?

This read too : You should be sorry for polish fans and morrissey shoul be sorry to all because some english scum shouting something offensive with such english accent that i'm affraid that only morrissey was able to understand him or maybe other english cunts that was on the gig. That's one thing but something more sad is that he left despite the fact that crowd was cheering and almost praying to him to come back even singing there is a light that never goes out didin't help. Bozz said from the stage that morrissey didn't come to poland to be insulted well neither did i come to this gig to be, but i feel i was, why? just think about that whole club of people lot of it from poland atmosphere is amazing, crowd know the words of queen is dead, and i mean words from whole songs and keep up in singing, and that's the hell o hard song to sing, and then some english prick shout something and all polish fans must pay his due ?? I loved that guy and i feel so fucking rip off because crowd staned over him but he didn't stand over crow, he left england, ok, to somewhere more civilized, allright with me, but what for fuck sake was the purpose of that when one lazy drunk bastard from his country can ruin show and maybe all of fans love and devotion. I still don't know what to think and i'm ruined, travel 250 kilometers to see him, stand in line for an hour on freezing cold, then waited one and a half hour and that's not all because after two songs i must get along with two drunk lousy english fucks who was drinking whole time at the bar and then decided that they must be near the stage. As a song said england this is not our country so maybe mozz should left behind businness with his folks when he is not playing in england, he should say fuck you not fuck that and appologise us, for his countryman that we must forbear when they come to warsaw or cracov just to get fucked a demolish some thing. As for all of you all over the world, pray for english not to come to concert in your town. I don't know, maybe this whole stupid island should keep their animals in cages if they don't know how to decent behave and build for them reservation.
 
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No, the exact words were: "Shut up and play, mother...er" just before Morrissey wanted to announce something. Not very nice words, but it's not an opera house but a rock concert, and the venue itself is called "BARN" so what do you expect? 2000 fans from the whole country against one moron. The moron won. Morrissey, you lost, too.
 
Morrissey is very sensitive - almost comical with the Penetration video before the show.
Yes, he is very sensitive:

I am human and I need to be loved,
just like everybody else does

BUT, does he have to act like this? Reacting in this way on a misunderstanding?

I'm really looking forward to the show in Essen next Monday, but I have some ?????
 
omg I didn't mean it that way you dipshit.
What way? I was applauding the fact someone was logically trying to make positive sense out of this situation, when all others are looking negatively (including me).

Old Trafford is an area of Stretford, itself part of the borough of Trafford, in Greater Manchester, see it as what Hollywood Hills is to Hollywood to Los angeles to California (maybe?) only opposite ends of the shitty scale, and inffinitely smaller.
 
Yes, he is very sensitive:

I am human and I need to be loved,
just like everybody else does

BUT, does he have to act like this? Reacting in this way on a misunderstanding?

I'm really looking forward to the show in Essen next Monday, but I have some ?????
Perhaps for the rest of the tour people should stand motionless in absolute silence just in case the poor dear feels a slight draught and has to leave, clutching a tear flecked book of Browning to his butch, masculine chest.

I wonder how many songs he is contracted to sing before the show is considered legally completed? Three guesses.
 
Something is being lost here. And please, I am not an enabler of Morrissey or anyone. This appears to be a gut, visceral, passionate, reaction and Morrissey is an extraordinarily sensitive person. A button was pushed albeit by a total stranger. If what was said was "shut up and sing/play" I can absolutely, unequivocally agree with those who said he should have continued. No debate - undermining my own reasoning - and saying 'suck it up, be a man, etc.' Remove the offender and continue the concert.

However, if someone mentioned Manchester, Old Trafford, etc., I think that isn't the same. We have no idea what is going on in Morrissey's head in relation to Manchester. We have no idea what his feelings towards Manchester are. We don't know how his mother, who was ill and recovered, is doing. We do know that he is sick of being always referred to as the former lead singer of The Smiths and in that fashion, and in that way, always being pulled back to Manchester. I'm inclined to think the former would make him pissed but be able to carry on - but that the latter could bring up a tsunami of emotions whereby he simply could not continue.

If he could continue but did not, that's wrong in my mind. If he could not continue...I mean it's not like he could recline on an analyst's couch right there...and so the show ends.

The storm offs, the walk offs, are not new but given how rare they were from when the Smiths ended to say Liverpool (2009), it seems he is growing more thin-skinned. He is older, he is isn't going to change, he is without a record label, his album was pulled after 3 weeks (or he pulled it) because Harvest Records failed to market the album properly, his bass player just left, and he's really concerned about his legacy about how he will be remembered. He doesn't want to go out on this note. You say, XYZ pop star would have soldiered on. I say XYZ pop star would have just as likely gone into recluse mode after all the drama that came before this tour. Why does he tour? To pay Mike Joyce. No. Morrissey's estimated net worth is north of 30 million dollars. He tours for you.

In his own sick way, he's always been true to us. Tell all of my friends...

Most sane post of the thread. Most balanced. Most insightful. Most empathetic. And empathy and balance is two things the majority of the people here lack.
 
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Ok. I will tread very carefully because I know that any criticism of Morrissey is a cause for great emotive out pouring! I love Morrissey's music but I also have the ability to be objective....

Let me tell you what happened....

Morrissey said to the audience 'Do you mind if I tell you something!?' Everyone responded 'no!'

One person shouted 'just tell us'. I was about 20 yards from him. At that point Morrissey said 'that's not very nice'! He looked p*ssed off and at that point I knew he had lost his appetite for finishing the gig!

Here is where I may be wrong:

Did someone else say something MORE offensive that I didn't hear!? Well, No! Here is the reason why....

Nobody heard anything offensive otherwise the band would have immediately responded and / or the loyal fans around the bloke would have said something. Secondly, none of the band quoted what was said that was meant to have been so offensive. It is my summation that Morrissey reacted to the 'just say it' comment.

Is it alright for him to abandon a gig in a country where so few fans get to see him and walk off stage leaving thousands short changed because of one mildly irritating comment that grazed his delicate ego!? I don't think so either. I believe the 'he didn't feel safe' line is just a cover for the fact that he didn't fancy completing the gig because someone made a comment that irritated his hugely delicate ego.

I also predict that 'no one' and I mean 'no one' on this forum can tell usthis threatening / insulting comment that was made? Why? Because it never happened and it was a lie fabricated to justify the reason why he walked off and shat on his fans!
This is a very fair summary, additional info:

I heard, as did the English guy next to me, someone with a British accent shout out something illegible that contained the word 'Trafford'. It came from the area in front of Boz. This comment led to Moz changing his mind about making his comment, performing 'Staircase' with his back to the audience and then walking off.
Immediately after the walk-off i decided to nip out to the toilet and bar expecting that i'd be back with a fresh beer just in time for the next song. Upon my return the band came back on stage and Boz took the mic and made a comment along the lines of 'i don't understand why you would come all this way and shout insults/make offensive comments'..something like that, presumably referring to the fact that the 'offender' spoke with a British accent. The band members then came to the front of stage (in the Boz area) to try to identify the offender. At that point i nipped out again but upon my return someone told me that an English person had owned up to shouting the comment and had either left or been escorted out, interestingly it was said to me after the gig by two different people that this English guy wasn't actually the person who had shouted but had just basically volunteered to take the blame in order for the gig to continue. Despite the fact that he left and that a call was put out to turn off the house lights, a clear sign that the gig was about to resume, obviously it never did. It's astonishing that nobody managed to capture any of the incident on their phone because a huge number of people were using phones to film.

I'm a staunch Moz fan, never made a critical post on this site, but i felt embarrassed by his behaviour last night and every British person i spoke with or overheard after (there were many there) was scathing about him. At the end of the gig there were a lot of bewildered people standing around in front of the stage. I chatted to some people who'd flown in from abroad and a young lady from Belarus attending her first Moz show (still holding some flowers even though the show was long ended..i bought her a beer to cheer her up).

To all the apologists trying to find excuses and defend him, i'm afraid last night was indefensible..simple as that. The show was going really well, the audience was bouncy and enthusiastic. I wonder if, just like Liverpool 2009 and the Roundhouse, Moz will now skip Warsaw in future and punish the place just because of his sensitivity to one foreign (not even Polish) person's remark.

One more thing, this idea that his safety may have been in danger really is acid on the wound and presumably was prompted because the cancellation clause in his contract including such a proviso.I haven't read too many people posting about refunds but i for one will definitely be claiming back the dosh.
 
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You LOVE this. All of you. It's why you're here, it's why you post, it's why you love/hate him. You all get off on this drama. We all do. You love that he's so sensitive so when he makes mistakes you can clamber onto him and rip him to shreds. You don't want him to just go on and sing and go off again. You WANT this to happen because we all ALL ALL ALL love the endless drama. Don't pretend otherwise. I come here after show days and wait for the explosions. This is the most fucked up fan community on earth. I love it. I'm addicted to it. I'm waiting for him to let me down and I take it and come crawling back. The very definition of an abusive relationship - that's what we're all in.
 
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This is a very fair summary, additional info:

I heard, as did the English guy next to me, someone with a British accent shout out something illegible that contained the word 'Trafford'. It came from the area in front of Boz. This comment led to Moz changing his mind about making his comment, performing 'Staircase' with his back to the audience and then walking off.
Immediately after the walk-off i decided to nip out to the toilet and bar expecting that i'd be back with a fresh beer just in time for the next song. Upon my return the band came back on stage and Boz took the mic and made a comment along the lines of 'i don't understand why you would come all this way and shout insults/make offensive comments'..something like that, presumably referring to the fact that the 'offender' spoke with a British accent. The band members then came to the front of stage (in the Boz area) to try to identify the offender. At that point i nipped out again but upon my return someone told me that an English person had owned up to shouting the comment and had either left or been escorted out, interestingly it was said to me after the gig by two different people that this English guy wasn't actually the person who had shouted but had just basically volunteered to take the blame in order for the gig to continue. Despite the fact that he left and that a call was put out to turn off the house lights, a clear sign that the gig was about to resume, obviously it never did. It's astonishing that nobody managed to capture any of the incident on their phone because a huge number of people were using phones to film.

I'm a staunch Moz fan, never made a critical post on this site, but i felt embarrassed by his behaviour last night and every British person i spoke with or overheard after (there were many there) was scathing about him. At the end of the gig there were a lot of bewildered people standing around in front of the stage. I chatted to some people who'd flown in from abroad and a young lady from Belarus attending her first Moz show (still holding some flowers even though the show was long ended..i bought her a beer to cheer her up).

To all the apologists trying to find excuses and defend him, i'm afraid last night was indefensible..simple as that. The show was going really well, the audience was bouncy and enthusiastic. I wonder if, just like Liverpool 2009 and the Roundhouse, Moz will now skip Warsaw in future and punish the place just because of his sensitivity to one foreign (not even Polish) person's remark.

One more thing, this idea that his safety may have been in danger really is acid on the wound and presumably was prompted because the cancellation clause in his contract including such a proviso.I haven't read too many people posting about refunds but i for one will definitely be claiming back the dosh.
Now you see, this post makes complete sense to me. I wasn't at the show and I have never criticised Morrissey in the past but last night looks like a complete shambles to me. Indefensible behaviour and I feel for Boz having to defend it in public.

All the talk about poor vulnerable Moz doesn't justify walking off like that. If he ever does that to me it will be the end of a long and happy love affair.
 
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Reading many tweets and all this comments I figured out Morrissey had a panic attack. Apparently he started the concert in very good mood, but just few words maked change his mind. More than one comments reported he sang "Staircase" giving his back to the audience, that's very strange for Morrissey, and that makes me think he did'nt want to see someone, pheraps the same person who shouted"Old Trafford"... I dont know, I'm just supposing, but maybe someone is pestering him at every gig and he's scared. Anyway I can't completely justify him for leaving the stage giving disappoinment to the rest of the audience cleary adoring him and I'm sure he does'nt justify himself too, so, next show will be perfect.
 
Ok, I've slept on what happened last night and woken up not calmer but more disgusted by what happened last night.

Morrissey doesn't owe his fans anything above and beyond respecting them and their support for him. Last night I believe he behaved with complete contempt and disregard for the people who he should cherish, particularly in a foreign country where chances to see him are rare.

Morrissey has many principles. He talks about corruption and leaders who lie. He talks about his sensitivity and his love of the vulnerable. Last night he was a hypocrite. He demonstrated all the deplorable notions that he writes about. What really sticks in my throat is two fold. Firstly, he hid behind a lie. He said he 'did not feel safe'. He left the stage because someone shouted 'just say it'. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind about this. His reaction was prompted by this comment which everyone heard. It was an unnecessary comment. Nothing more. However, his safety was not jeopardised. He felt so unsafe that he had the temerity to shamefully turn his back to his audience for a whole song.

Secondly, this 'lie' about an alleged 'insult' in my mind could have easily put someone in danger. With emotions high, for a witch hunt to be administered with people desperate for the gig to continue I am thankful that no one was offered as a scapegoat and battered there and then. This was a real possibility. I have sympathy with the band because they would have been desperate as we were and willing to do whatever was needed to get the show back on. As a result to appease Morrissey they had to be seen to be 'doing something'. To see his band members desperately inciting some kind of witch hunt on the basis of well...nothing, was alarming and very very embarrassing. It's interesting how no one pointed anyone out and no one from the band was able or willing to say what this comment was.

Lets talk about sensitivity for a moment. Morrissey is very sensitive when it comes to himself and his own ego. When it comes to others he has a sudden sensitivity block. A horrible juxtaposition! I take comfort in the irony that those who defend Morrissey to the hilt and those that see their defense as some kind of romantic loyalty to the man are probably the ones that Morrissey holds in the highest scorn.
 
You LOVE this. All of you. It's why you're here, it's why you post, it's why you love/hate him. You all get off on this drama. We all do. You love that he's so sensitive so when he makes mistakes you can clamber onto him and rip him to shreds. You don't want him to just go on and sing and go off again. You WANT this to happen because we all ALL ALL ALL love the endless drama. Don't pretend otherwise. I come here after show days and wait for the explosions. This is the most fucked up fan community on earth. I love it. I'm addicted to it. I'm waiting for him to let me down and I take it and come crawling back. The very definition of an abusive relationship - that's what we're all in.
Its a nice theory but to be honest I think I would have rather seen him complete his gig and listen to his songs as opposed to writing on a message board. Maybe next time I'll pay £60 quid, stay at home and just write some sh*t about him on here.
 

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