TTY: Universal Music, the approach made to David Joseph, since denied by David Joseph

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  1. hand in glove

    hand in glove 40 per cent papier mache

    Apr 26, 2000
    Universal Music, the approach made to David Joseph, since denied by David Joseph -
    25 November 2015

    On 18 Nov 2015, at 15:29, Boz Boorer -------------------- wrote:

    Dear David,

    My name is Boz Boorer and I represent all of the musicians who played

    We are shocked that you have made no move this week to promote the
    above song (download/special 7-inch/special CD) to support the people
    of Paris. Any other artist would be number 1 with this song RIGHT NOW.

    Why are you doing nothing? There is no other song in modern music that
    aptly supports the people of Paris.

    Most sincerely yours




    From: John Reid --------------------
    Date: November 19, 2015 at 6:39:51 PM GMT-2
    To: Boz Boorer --------------------
    Subject: Re: Paris

    Dear Boz

    Thank you for copying your email to me.

    I think we all know that this would be an appropriate and compelling gesture.

    I spoke with David Joseph today. His position is that owing to Universal having a very close connection to the events, much as they see your point, they are not intending to release any records in response to the tragic events of last Friday. They feel it is too raw for them given the death of one of their staff members and instead they are going to show support and solidarity in other ways, including concerts in Paris later this year by some of their artists.

    However, I believe that Universal would licence the song back for eg a release for proceeds to relevant charities (which I assume would be the plan). In short there may be a possibility here but it would have to be a release via a third party. Personally I think there could be a very forceful statement to be made. It will of course require M's input. Have you discussed this with him - I assume so.

    If you want me to pursue this, please let me know. Time inevitably is of the essence.

    Yours sincerely


    John Reid
    Russells Solicitors

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    1. mcrickson
      This was probably the planned "cover artwork" for the "charity" single.
    2. Anonymous
    3. BrummieBoy
      If you are seriously suggesting Boz Boorer acted without clearing this with his boss then you have a very myopic view of his terms of employment. Forced to wear clownish stage outfits and to defend the indefensible blaming of Kristeen Young, it is very clear that this 'request' originates from Morrissey via his hireling, Boz, thus the need to reply via a Solicitor.

      The grotesque opportunistic demand for a NO 1 RECORD! off the backs of 130 dead from a terrorist attack is the nadir of Morrissey's public meltdown, enhanced in it's depravity by his unrevoked abusive comments about the Oslo terrorist attacks. If Morrissey wishes to explain how and why he allows hired backing band musicians to negotiate his releases and PR with his previous employer, Universal, that's his choice. Given that it's clear Morrissey doesn't own the licence to this song and wouldn't be foregoing any profits from publishing, the only question left is why he chose to issue abusive responses to Universal Records very generous offer. Anyone who thinks this debacle is explicable other than as a naked attempt by Morrissey to troll the Paris Attacks for profit and to enhance his Public Image has a LOT of explaining to do. And we still await the 'explanation' for TTY linking to a website that claims the Paris Attacks were staged. Was that Morrissey? Julia? Or Boz/Borrissey? I think the ravings about bombing circuses is beyond any rational discussion other than in Morrissey's inner clique. Morrissey has exceeded himself this time and it is exactly as predicted by myself, Benny, Barleycorn and others. Sit back and enjoy as he descends into the abyss but, unless you're part of his Cult, don't go down with him.

      Morrissey=Vile Troll

    4. Anonymous
      Clearly he is a contemptible despicable opportunist. There are no depths to which morrissey would sink in order to be in the press and public eye.
    5. Anonymous
      Boz isn't even allowed to take a dump without his employer signing off on it. Why do you think Solomon had to leave the band?
    6. Musician
      Such a shame, really. Makes me stop being a fan after nearly 30 years. ''So why are you still here, hater?'' - comes the question. Well, after many fiascos you cannot defend Morrissey. It's all his fault and deserves all the criticism here.
    7. BrummieBoy
      It's now very clear that Boz Boorer is an enabler who lacks the guts and spine to stand up to Morrissey. He is just a showroom dummy to recycle Clash riffs and wear 'Fuck' t-shirts. Does he also agree with Morrissey's views on the Oslo Terrorist massacre? Does he eat chicken? Boz Boorer is now clearly as morally deranged as Morrissey if he thinks he can demand a NO 1 RECORD! off the back of the Paris Attacks whilst ignorning previous outrageous remarks about the Oslo Attacks. Shameless opportunistic careerism.


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      Trust me, I will dance on his grave if I get to outlive Morrissey. He has been revealed as a truly evil man by his trolling of Oslo and animal abuse in China. Trolling the Paris Attacks is just more of the same but this time it's blown up in his hate-contorted face. Morrissey=Vile Troll


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      A concise, excellent summary. Morrissey has always been a tool, it's just taken this long for many to realise it.

    8. Anonymous
      Imagine (or, technically Working Class Hero, which is catalogued as the a-side) is number 2 in France based on just that process. All the radio stations agreed to play it simultaneously as a tribute. I'm not aware that Yoko Ono needed to tell anyone to go fuck themselves to make it happen, either.
    9. Anonymous
      Hello Rat, how's the tail dragging?
    10. Anonymous

      moz wrote but signed off as boz. boz is not even allowed to think thru an email FFS.
      the peeps at universal probably have moz as totally insane. having his guitar player flunky email the record co.
      and what happened to the letter from Russel the solicitor?
    11. BrummieBoy
      Morrissey is petty and opportunistic. There was no mass Social Media eruption to have this absurd song as a memorial to the attacks. If there was, it would have charted as it is easily available for purchese online. What Morrissey wanted was to place his ugly face centre stage with the marketing might of Universal behind him, purely to further his sad campaign to appear relevant, contemporary and thus deserving of a new record contract with a Big 4 label. His ludicrous attempts to pass a festival crowd of 12,000 as purely his being another part of this nonsense. The only charity in Morrissey's mind was himself.

      Instead of taking on board Universal's polite, measured response he goes off the deep end. Due to his confirmation bias he only sees Conspiracy. He has always understood that the public mostly only purchase music with a huge marketing budget behind it (other than Adele) and his snipings during The Smiths about Rough Trade, the move to a major label all falls into place once you accept he is a ruthless careerist businessman, not an Artist.

      Morrissey is in a hole but he'll keep digging because he isn't tethered to consensual reality and there is nobody in his employ who has the balls to stand up to him. Let him dig his own reputational grave. After Oslo and his comments on Chinese people being a 'sub-species' nobody can be surprised of yet more proof of his moral disarray. Morrissey is simply nothing more than a Vile Troll. All that remains is to explore and explain how he got away with this nonsense for decades. Over to you, Benny!

    12. Anonymous

      do what you do Moz
    13. BrummieBoy
      A suitable epitaph for his career failure. It will look good on his grave headstone alongside "Morrissey=VileTroll"

    14. Anonymous

      the lyrics are aboutarms
    15. countthree
      Earth is the loneliest planet of all...
    16. BrummieBoy
      To preserve his sanity. To escape the Cult of Morrissey. Or perhaps he saw an early draft of 'List of The Lols' and realised there was only so much time to get off the sinking ship. It is to his credit that he left. One hopes he was paid well to sign the Non-Disclosure Agreement about Dear Leader Morrissey. It will be fun when Morrissey croaks and those agreements are null and void.

    17. Anonymous
      probably everyone concerned is trying to figure out if boz is a typo for moz.
      who the f is boz? it has to be moz probably a typo.

      boz demanding, on behalf of himself and a set of similarly unknown musicians that universal reissue paris in several formats including vinyl.....LOL

      while wily fearless huma leader-and after this thing with boz the envoy we know for a fact that he is huma-percolates in a hot tub sipping veggie vodka calculating in his devious mind the profit from the never to be released paris hit single.LOL
      if i was moz id put a paper bag over my head in public from now on.
    18. BrummieBoy
      The interesting issue is how his Audience now come to terms with the fact that Morrissey is indeed a Cult Conspiracy Loon and that many of his songs both with The Smiths and Solo appear to be barely concealed ravings which reached their dire apogee in 'List of The Lulz' and his outbursts about Oslo, Paris and China as a 'sub-species'. The songs which I can personally still listen to without LOLing at his Crank-Fraud conspiracy lunacy is shrinking and, of course, ITMAAP is now in the dustbin along with obvious Conspiracy Candidates like YJHEIYB. Thank god for digital media so we can all curate our own playlists from the garbage bin of his career. The signs were there all along but it's taken until now for many to realise they were feeding Morrissey's mental illness by being 'fans' rather than discerning members of an Audience. Fuck Morrissey. Morrissey=VileTroll. If it wasn't for the horror of Paris, this would be funny but TJIFA. Etc

      Morrissey's attempts to censor this site and his harassment of DavidT now make total sense. He can order Boz and other hirelings to do his wishes but he cannot force The Internet to stop probing his Cult and his unretracted comments about Oslo.

    19. Anonymous
      Antisocial, narcissistic, paranoid, with a huge amount of erogenous masochism which is taking its toll now.
    20. Anonymous
      Dear Universal Records,

      Cheers, Conrad here. I am the official veggie pizza slicer for Mr Morrissey and his band, the latter comprised of Mr Boz Boorer and several other unknown musicians. I would like to demand on our behalf, and on behalf of the staff at the five star pestana hotel in brazil, the 12ooo festival punters in Chile, the gent from the Blure Rose Society, Little Joe D from the Warhol movies, the staff at TTY, that you at once and without ado re issue the Morrissey track that has Paris in the title. Be aware that this is a a serious inquiry-dont let the rumors that I am forced to wear knickers in the performance of my duties-confuse you into thinking otherwise.
      Please be advise that the preferred formats are: 12 and 7 inch vinyl with trimmed silk sleeves, Cd single with bonus cuts of of Adele and Sheerhan tracks to bump sales, and a deluxe download priced at 5 quid per.
      We also demand a video to accompany the release to be directed by Mr Boz but paid by Universal. Video will be of Morrissey dressed as Napoleon Bonaparte returning to Paris after a heroic escape from vulgar Elaba, only to be confronted by the repressive forces led by a team of record executives led by David Joseph himself.

      Attentively Yours,
      Conrad, official veggie pizza slicer and taster for Morriseey LTD

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