TTY: Morrissey show in Manchester (Aug. 20, 2016; on sale Fri.)

Morrissey show in Manchester - true-to-you.net
5 July 2016

Morrissey will play Manchester Arena on Saturday 20 August.
Damien Dempsey is very special guest.
Tickets are on sale this Friday (8 July), max 4 per person.
This will be Morrissey's first appearance in Manchester for four years, and his only 2016 show in England.

 

[MisguidedTrousers]

Do you think the arena made money. If not why would they book him again over someone else that could fill it.

Also is that just a amanchester thing to expect smiths songs and no morrissey sings. It just wasn't the case when I saw him here

Sorry but I'm having to guess what you mean about 'A Manchester thing'
Personally I like a mixture of Moz and Smiths material at concerts, as long as most of the crap off the last album is dropped I'll be happy. 'Oboe Concerto' what a f***ing embarrassment for everyone involved that pile of shit was.
Everyone will have made money I assume. Band, venue, promoters, McDonalds (yes the arena branch was open and doing a roaring trade in 2012)
This time around it looks like they'll make a lot more money...
Most arena staff, security, barstaff and ushers are on minimum wages or thereabouts.
Stage crew and techies make more but the artists and arena owners that take the lions share.

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry but I'm having to guess what you mean about 'A Manchester thing'
Personally I like a mixture of Moz and Smiths material at concerts, as long as most of the crap off the last album is dropped I'll be happy. 'Oboe Concerto' what a f***ing embarrassment for everyone involved that pile of shit was.
Everyone will have made money I assume. Band, venue, promoters, McDonalds (yes the arena branch was open and doing a roaring trade in 2012)
This time around it looks like they'll make a lot more money...
Most arena staff, security, barstaff and ushers are on minimum wages or thereabouts.
Stage crew and techies make more but the artists and arena owners that take the lions share.

The mix of songs was to another poster. Should have labeled it as such. What I'm saying though Is if it was only two thirds/half full why would they rebook him instead of getting someone who could fill the whole place or is it usually only that full. Ya know book someone that could sell tickets instead of having to mark them down so much

 

[Anonymous]

http://rockandrollguru.blogspot.de/2010/03/who-sets-prices-for-concert-tickets.html?m=1

 

[MisguidedTrousers]

The mix of songs was to another poster. Should have labeled it as such. What I'm saying though Is if it was only two thirds/half full why would they rebook him instead of getting someone who could fill the whole place or is it usually only that full. Ya know book someone that could sell tickets instead of having to mark them down so much

The arena went into profit years ago, it's not about booking people that can sell it out and not booking anyone else. The promoter takes the risk and will 99.9% of the time make money. Just because it wasn't a sell out doesn't mean it made a loss.
And as for booking someone that can sell it out completely, Adele, Rhianna or Take That for instance. What good is that for Morrissey fans?
You should check out how venues make money I think, you seem a bit confused as to how it all works.
And compare the price of tickets for Manchester to gigs in Israel and Turkey. The difference in price shows how Morrissey sees his home town as a place to make cash and nothing else these days.

 

[Anonymous]

The last Manchester Arena show was maybe two-thirds full. It's hard to see how this is going to be much of an improvement.

I know he hasn't played much in the UK recently - but the tickets are crazy expensive*, the venue is shit - last time had terrible sound, and even at the front you feel a mile from the stage. I'm saving my money and watching him somewhere better - even if it's abroad.

I'm sick of the UK only getting crap arena dates.

 

[Anonymous]

The only chance in a long time or maybe forever to see Morrissey in England and you are complaining about $80? Isn't like only 3 dinners out? I would have handed Morrissey my wallet at the door because i had so much fun. You Brits complain too much.

 

[Anonymous]

The arena went into profit years ago, it's not about booking people that can sell it out and not booking anyone else. The promoter takes the risk and will 99.9% of the time make money. Just because it wasn't a sell out doesn't mean it made a loss.
And as for booking someone that can sell it out completely, Adele, Rhianna or Take That for instance. What good is that for Morrissey fans?
You should check out how venues make money I think, you seem a bit confused as to how it all works.
And compare the price of tickets for Manchester to gigs in Israel and Turkey. The difference in price shows how Morrissey sees his home town as a place to make cash and nothing else these days.

Why doesn't whomever is responsible for the booking and risk book someone who can fill it more. Is it usually only that full. This is boardering on the pointless I think. I'm not asking how it's gonna help morrissey fans

 

[MisguidedTrousers]

The only chance in a long time or maybe forever to see Morrissey in England and you are complaining about $80? Isn't like only 3 dinners out? I would have handed Morrissey my wallet at the door because i had so much fun. You Brits complain too much.

$103 and the venue has the atmosphere and charm of a slaughter house specialised in bumping off peodophiles.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, I look forward to continuing this debate on the front row come the 20th. Hey, you will be able to show Morrissey your new 'I Luv Moz' tattoo.

After the show, you can claim that you were not there, it was empty, he was rubbish and that you definitely did not sing along to every word.

Bless.

 

[Anonymous]

$103 and the venue has the atmosphere and charm of a slaughter house specialised in bumping off peodophiles.

And the guy next to me was weird and i couldn't really see because Paul Buynan was in front of me it is Morrissey !

 

[Alex!]

Look at ticket prices. Yeah nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Anonymous]

The last Manchester show was maybe two thirds capacity, touts took a loss when tickets were reportedly distributed for free prior to the show. the touts couldnt give away the tickets prior to show time. this time around only an extended series of hysterical TTY posts immediately prior to the show could make it as full.
if that doesnt work then cancellation is in order, Moz will no lower himself to playing a half full house in Manchester, of all places.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

There are seated tickets for £38. Are those horribly bad?

 

[Surface]

He/the promoter is plain crazy. I will be very surprised if he sells out, especially at those prices.

New Order play an outdoor gig at Catlefield Bowl this weekend, capacity 8000 and they sold it out in a day. This would have been a far better option for Morrissey.

 

[Anonymous]

If you don't want to pay £70+, buy a cheaper ticket at £35, and then move into those more expensive seats, if as you lot seem to think, they won't get sold!

Morrissey, and I suspect very few artists actually set the ticket prices. Arenas have and always will be more expensive. Think of all the staff that need paying. Also promoters have now worked out that they used to sell tickets for £30. Touts then sold them for £70/£80. So now the promoters just sell them for £70/£80. Cutting out the tout.

Yes it's exploiting and is tottaly wrong but unfortunately it's the price you pay for actually wanting to go to the gig. You could spend no money at all, sit at home, come on here and read the set list/reviews and then watch the footage on YouTube. But you won't have witnessed the gig and had the experience.

Another point that backs up that Morrissey doesn't set the prices is that last year in Budapest the ticket cost £22, Warsaw and Kraków the year before £28, yet the O2 arena was £60(or there abouts). Hull was £50 yet a few days later London was £70. Do you really think Morrissey sits in his hotel room working out on his fingers and thumbs the price he is to charge at each venue on a tour??

 

[mozmal]

Please refer to previous replies on this thread.

Even if I get a free ticket, I doubt I'd stay for more than a few songs. There are much better things to do in Manchester on a Saturday night than watch a delusional closet case and/or fag-hag singing his old canon of tat.

But still you're here, and you'll be there. To be continued...

 

[billybu69]

That's actually comparatively inexpensive for an Arena show. And do you really think Morrissey sets the ticket prices himself? Get real ffs.

Nicklelback are £38.50 so are Madness, Bastille are 28.50 The Cure are £50 along with Selena Gomez and the entire Royal Philharmonic and Elvis, all playing the same stadium as are Placebo £27.50, in fact the only ones similarly priced Rod Stewart and the Who. If you think they have no input into ticket costs you're deluded, but thats not unusual round here these days.

 

[Anonymous]

Interestingly, I'm getting a lot of flack for pointing out Morrissey's original words to some blinded acolytes. I wonder what they don't like - the fact that Morrissey has once again been, to be kind, economical with the truth, or that someone had the GALL to point out that fact?

Apologies, there was me thinking that EggheadPeter was a mindless buffoon for repeatedly posting witless, boring, convoluted nonsense, when in fact you are really a brave little soldier posting the TRUTH with GALL about a singer who has announced that he is performing in an arena in a few weeks time.

What would we do without you and your garbled, pompous witterings?

I think we would all like the opportunity to find out.

 

[Anonymous]

Nicklelback are £38.50 so are Madness, Bastille are 28.50 The Cure are £50 along with Selena Gomez and the entire Royal Philharmonic and Elvis, all playing the same stadium as are Placebo £27.50, in fact the only ones similarly priced Rod Stewart and the Who. If you think they have no input into ticket costs you're deluded, but thats not unusual round here these days.

Just tell us how it works and what the influence is. Most of those bands are also not the most popular in terms of live draw. I will say placebo are amazing live. Better than on album which I am a fan of. There albums that is but still

 

[Flibberty]

Last time in Manchester was nowhere near a sell out. Standing was about 2/3 full and seated about 3/4. The touts were selling at £10 by showtime and two I spoke to had lost money overall (no sympathy)
The Apollo would have been a much better bet but it wouldn't make half as much cash for Moz as the arena does. I'm afraid it's all about the moolah these days, sound quality and fans experience is way down the list. Such a shame.

Some people have very short memories...

When ROTT was released, Morrissey could easily have done a very large arena tour but instead played small theatres. This included (I think) four different venues in Manchester.

Plus a couple of years ago in Japan Morrissey did a very similar thing, and played a lengthy tour instead of just a couple of large venues.