TTY: Glastonbury Festival is not animal friendly

Re: True to You: Glastonbury

http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_150409_01

9 April 2015

Glastonbury Festival is not animal friendly

barbarism begins at home

Last year the artist Banksy burst into the Glastonbury Festival with his very clever moving art-piece called Sirens of the Lambs, which shows the screaming faces of lambs crying out from a truck bound for slaughter of the most unimaginably corrupt and vicious savagery.
Michael Eavis, the gentlemanly God of Glastonbury, was not impressed.
"Is it some kind of animal rights thing?" he asked, pretending not to understand what the rest of us saw so clearly. No, Michael, it was a preview of the UK entry for the 2015 Eurovision Song Contest…

"Our cows are actually very happy," Michael Eavis, now suddenly Dr. Dolittle, assured reporters, "they have the highest milk yield in the county."
What Michael Eavis meant by this statement was: WE are economically very happy because our cows have the highest milk yield in the county. No Glastonbury cow was available for comment, and no cows were heard laughing. Dr. Eavis equates milk yield as a sign of happiness, we note.

In order to 'have the highest milk yield in the county', a cow must be persistently 'raped' against its will (a logical assumption), or it must be artificially inseminated from the age of 13 months onwards, or injected with bovine growth hormone. The latter is banned (that is, frowned upon) in the UK, but since farmers pay no heed to the law when it comes to gassing badgers, shooting foxes or hunting, then we're safe to assume that the bovine growth hormone practice continues. In the UK, the farmers' financial gluttony is unassailably up there with the holy scriptures.
Dairy cows are not allowed to not be in lactation because then their milk production decreases and they do not produce enough milk to justify the cost of their board and lodgings. Therefore, cows are repeatedly raped and raped and raped … which Michael Eavis presumably thinks is a great way to make sentient beings happy. Dairy cows are only allowed to live for as long as they are useful to the farmer, which is about 4 years. If left alone, the cow could live for 20 years.
I assume that the dairy cows at Glastonbury who no longer yield milk are brought into the home of Michael Eavis and allowed to sit down and watch Emmerdale until they gently pass away in their later years, because, after all, Michael insists that Glastonbury cows are "very happy."
In truth, of course, as soon as a cow is a substandard producer of milk, she and her friends are sent off to have their throats slit.
We can easily imagine Michael Eavis waving the cattle truck off, and we can see his cows being "very happy" about that, and waving back to Michael.
A male calf produced by a dairy cow is immediately shot, or raised to be murdered for beef, or allowed no daylight during its entire short lifespan where it is trapped in a crate, unable to move, and thus the creation of veal. After calving, newborns are hit on the head with a hammer or pulled away from their mothers after just one day together, which causes explosive stress to both mother and baby. Does Michael Eavis approve of this? It appears so. Milk is worse than "meat" because on dairy farms the cows are tortured for YEARS before they are killed. Calves are pulled away from their mothers by dragging the calf with one leg, both mother and calf in a state of chaotic distress.
Does Michael Eavis at his Glastonbury Farm accommodate any cows at all that do not yield money his way? I doubt it. Off with their heads!
Does Michael Eavis care about the insane environmental damage caused by dairy farming? I doubt it. To hell with the environment! People who do not care about animal rights usually do not care about human rights. It naturally follows.
Should you actually agree to play at the Glastonbury Festival you might find visual arts expert Michael Eavis meddling with your presentations. In 2011 I played Glastonbury and attempted to sing the song Meat is murder. Behind me, a screen that usually shows the many evils of factory farming remained blank. I was told that Michael Eavis had stopped the screening of the film because it wasn't indicative of how his dairy farm operated. He didn't quite understand that the poor souls in the actual film did not want to be there in the first place. Michael Eavis also went on to justify banning the film by saying it would "upset" younger people. What Michael Eavis was saying, in effect, was:

it's OK for our belly, but not for our eyes … and at all costs don't educate anyone on animal cruelty because it might damage the financial profits of our happy Glastonbury Farm.

If he had thought the film gave an incorrect view of dairy farming, he wouldn't have cared if the film had been shown, but he banned the film because he knew the film was truth.

Like most animal haters, Michael appears to be one of those people who love dead animals, yet hate live ones. How is this sane, or logical, or possible?
If dogs and cats aren't 'food', then why are cows and sheep? The BBC recently made a terrible fuss when some unfortunate dogs were allegedly poisoned at Crufts - which, yes, was abysmal. But the BBC had no concern or report on the 40,000 piglets whose throats were slit in the UK in that very same week.
Why is the latter not a BBC story? Why is a poisoned dog at Crufts a story for national lamentation, yet the slaughter of 40,000 screaming piglets is not mentioned anywhere on any known news program?
If a dog is not food, then why is a pig?
Well, you might argue that 'oooh I love bacon', but if you love the pig dead, why do you not love the pig while it is alive, and why do you not protect it from slaughter … if you "love" "bacon" so much? Surely if you eat animals it's because you hate rather than love them?
Is a cat 'food'? No. So why is a lamb?
We have been trained and brainwashed to believe that some animals deserve to be killed and some don't, and much advertising effort is put into the hope that we do not ever decide for ourselves. No celebrity vegetarian chefs on the BBC! There is also heavy reliance on the hope that humans never quite become intelligent enough to understand that both humans and animals have natural rights. After all, as Gary Yourofsky brilliantly observed: if you remove bees or ants from the planet the entire cycle of life is damaged, but if you remove human beings from the planet then the entire planet will prosper and be saved.
Should we care that factory farming (which isn't farming at all - it's an industry very much like any other) is irrefutably linked to cancer in humans? Are you aware that the "country smell" so powerful in idyllic areas is actually the smell of mass slaughter of animals? Does anyone actually believe that the badger kill (not 'cull') is a move to protect cows, or to protect godly farmers' income? Are you aware that the virus of factory farming causes more greenhouse gas emissions than all combined forms of motorized transport? Of course you're not, for if you knew how much the "meat" industry is destroying the planet, well, you might grow wise to the biggest threat to your own life.

Like many animal haters, Michael Eavis was awarded a CBE by Elizabeth Battenberg (you have been ordered to address her as The Queen) in 2007. In 2005 he expressed how it was "outrageous to ban hunting". For such as Michael Eavis, there just cannot be enough bloodshed. More! More! More! Kill! Kill! Kill! Would he object if the hunters were also hunted?

Animal rights is now the leading social justice issue on the planet. Your decision is whether you support either the butcher or the butchered. It cannot be both.

Morrissey
8 April 2015
 
If Morrissey believes the average person eat animals because she hates them, then, he really doesn't understand people (we shouldn't be surprised by this). He goes from making these silly presumptions to patronising arrogance and ignorance about reader's knowledge of the world...
 
Re: True to You: Glastonbury

Michael Eavis is simply an example. Moz can't name everyone. And, actually, you do the same. You single out Morrissey for his believes but he isn't the only one. His views aren't as unique as everyone makes them out to be. Furthermore when you say "stupid statement" ... well, give a better one. I think we should change the roles a bit. Everyone around here picks a topic, makes a statement and then let others comment on it and rip it apart. To comment on people's statements is, for some, easier and more comfortable than make a statement by themselves.

This is a forum dedicated to discussion of Morrissey, of course I'm going to respond to his statements. Would you rather we discussed Shirley Bassey?
 
Man he is tough going sometimes. The Glasgow gig was my 26th. He finished with meat is murder... There was little call for an encore.. Quite embarrassing.. The crowd party shocked/offended/bored
The obvious thing to think, is that's he's been turned down for Glastonbury ? He is that childish.. The money and fame allow him to behave like he does.. With little reguard for anyone but himself... The constant falling out with everyone, labels , friends, musicians it's boring now. The cancellations, Alan Carr fiasco.. The attacking the queen? Why care that much about her? I Couldint care less.. It's just boring, he's getting boring. The thing is the new album is ok! Some great stuff on it... But his latest aimed rant is just YAWN

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benny and brummie were way ahead of the curve on this one, with moz finally coming to his senses.
congrats, benny and brummie, well done.
 
If Morrissey believes the average person eat animals because she hates them, then, he really doesn't understand people (we shouldn't be surprised by this). He goes from making these silly presumptions to patronising arrogance and ignorance about reader's knowledge of the world...

ticket demand for the usa shows are flatter than flat, he has to drum some sort of publicity.
 
Great, another KFC, McDonalds, Burger King eating New York Yankees cap wearing fat Brit infatuated with meat and killing animals. Just what the world needs.

Morrissey still drinks milk and he could never give up Parmesan cheese or any cheese for that matter. He just is stating that dairy cows should not be treated bad.

One thing the Morrissey stalkers should get from this, is that he spends a lot of time on youtube now. Maybe you can send him secret messages, like where the best Italian restaurants are when he is touring.

That's why he had a soy latte in LA and rice milk on his rider.

Troll.
 
If Morrissey believes the average person eat animals because she hates them, then, he really doesn't understand people (we shouldn't be surprised by this). He goes from making these silly presumptions to patronising arrogance and ignorance about reader's knowledge of the world...

very true, what a ridiculous thing to say. i dont think moz thinks very clearly.
 
As long as people make a fuss over such minor things like not being able to eat meat for 2 hours or being outraged about someone pointing out the truth that it is strange for people to kill and eat one animal but stroke and love another one then he will continue to speak up. It is quite sad that people like Moz still have to point these things out when even Leonardo Da Vinci already knew it ...

“As long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men.”

Oh, and this video from Steve Cutts is quite powerful and the music fits perfectly (in my humble opinion).
 
Ha ha silly Steven you wanker ! YOU and YOUR act performed on this very farm, not once but twice, how shady is that you phoney stroker.
Everybody is laughing at you now, we all know your all about the cheese you crankfraud.
Barry Manilow is taking all the headlines at the moment ! Haven't you heard ? He's just announced he's got married to his manager but sadly he's not homosexual but he's more a managersexual, oh well who cares did I tell you I'm a meatsexual.
How's your Nephew by the way Sam Whats-he-Called, is all this claptrap to divert attention from him and his shitty i-phone utube footage ?
I've got a new design for your t-shirt stall ! FRONT A picture of your head (black n white) without your syrup and the slogan "TITS AND CHEESE AND CROCK AND ROLL"
REVERSE "OUR CRANK"

Cheesed to be of assistance good to see the cancer isn't holding you back

Benny-the-British-Butcher
 
I'm sorry, but I *definitely* think the timing of this now is due to the constant barrage of posts regarding Morrissey's cheesy/dairy consumption here.
Obviously he hates this site - but he must, occasionally - have a quick glance. If only out of morbid curiosity. And pretty much any story he would have looked at would have descended into cheese/rants by page 2.
I think he might just have finally realised he needs to stop eating dairy, and be public about it, to stop people calling him a hypocritical bastard.
 
He is completely right about how evil the dairy industry is and good on him for speaking up. Sadly most people couldn't care less about how animals are treated in the meat and dairy industry.

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Mad old c***, does anyone ever get more than half way through his drivel?
 
I'm sorry, but I *definitely* think the timing of this now is due to the constant barrage of posts regarding Morrissey's cheesy/dairy consumption here.
Obviously he hates this site - but he must, occasionally - have a quick glance. If only out of morbid curiosity. And pretty much any story he would have looked at would have descended into cheese/rants by page 2.
I think he might just have finally realised he needs to stop eating dairy, and be public about it, to stop people calling him a hypocritical bastard.

i was greatly alarmed at first when accessing true to you, i feared that brummie had hacked the site and posted his cheesegate theories directly there.
i took me some time to realize that moz had absorbed the brummie/benny cheese is murder philosophy and made it his own.when will wonders cease?
 
very true, what a ridiculous thing to say. i dont think moz thinks very clearly.

Oh, really? I think Moz thinks very clearly. So, why do you eat animals then? You say it's not out of hate. Then it must be the opposite. You eat them out of love? Surely not. Because you are used to eat them. Because they taste good. Because you can't be bothered to make the efford of finding something else to eat (it is an efford in the beginning, I won't deny that). But surely not out of love which isn't associated with the killing and suffering of beings. Actually, if people would slaughter the animals by themselves before eating it them then it would be okay by me but they don't. They let other people doing it for them behind closed doors so that they don't have to watch.
 
I'm sorry, but I *definitely* think the timing of this now is due to the constant barrage of posts regarding Morrissey's cheesy/dairy consumption here.
Obviously he hates this site - but he must, occasionally - have a quick glance. If only out of morbid curiosity. And pretty much any story he would have looked at would have descended into cheese/rants by page 2.
I think he might just have finally realised he needs to stop eating dairy, and be public about it, to stop people calling him a hypocritical bastard.

i dont know what he reads but im not gonna assume based on nothing. there are dozens of moz sites and sites related to him. i think he gave up dairy a while ago and that perhaps if to give speculative credibility to him reading anything here that its probably the fake leather thing all over. feels the need to prove something already done because people are very assumptive. its not like he can talk about all animal cruelty all the time and still make music and play it to people (and still talk about gender roles etc). if anything id like to hear about the cynicism of vegan restaurants who charge large sums for vegan food, for the cause, for large amounts of profit. why dont those restaurants make as little profit as possible to ensure that all who want to can afford to eat at them maybe saving more animals ya know for there cause and conviction.
 
Re: True to You: Glastonbury

http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_150409_01

9 April 2015

Glastonbury Festival is not animal friendly

barbarism begins at home

Last year the artist Banksy burst into the Glastonbury Festival with his very clever moving art-piece called Sirens of the Lambs, which shows the screaming faces of lambs crying out from a truck bound for slaughter of the most unimaginably corrupt and vicious savagery.
Michael Eavis, the gentlemanly God of Glastonbury, was not impressed.
"Is it some kind of animal rights thing?" he asked, pretending not to understand what the rest of us saw so clearly. No, Michael, it was a preview of the UK entry for the 2015 Eurovision Song Contest…

"Our cows are actually very happy," Michael Eavis, now suddenly Dr. Dolittle, assured reporters, "they have the highest milk yield in the county."
What Michael Eavis meant by this statement was: WE are economically very happy because our cows have the highest milk yield in the county. No Glastonbury cow was available for comment, and no cows were heard laughing. Dr. Eavis equates milk yield as a sign of happiness, we note.

In order to 'have the highest milk yield in the county', a cow must be persistently 'raped' against its will (a logical assumption), or it must be artificially inseminated from the age of 13 months onwards, or injected with bovine growth hormone. The latter is banned (that is, frowned upon) in the UK, but since farmers pay no heed to the law when it comes to gassing badgers, shooting foxes or hunting, then we're safe to assume that the bovine growth hormone practice continues. In the UK, the farmers' financial gluttony is unassailably up there with the holy scriptures.
Dairy cows are not allowed to not be in lactation because then their milk production decreases and they do not produce enough milk to justify the cost of their board and lodgings. Therefore, cows are repeatedly raped and raped and raped … which Michael Eavis presumably thinks is a great way to make sentient beings happy. Dairy cows are only allowed to live for as long as they are useful to the farmer, which is about 4 years. If left alone, the cow could live for 20 years.
I assume that the dairy cows at Glastonbury who no longer yield milk are brought into the home of Michael Eavis and allowed to sit down and watch Emmerdale until they gently pass away in their later years, because, after all, Michael insists that Glastonbury cows are "very happy."
In truth, of course, as soon as a cow is a substandard producer of milk, she and her friends are sent off to have their throats slit.
We can easily imagine Michael Eavis waving the cattle truck off, and we can see his cows being "very happy" about that, and waving back to Michael.
A male calf produced by a dairy cow is immediately shot, or raised to be murdered for beef, or allowed no daylight during its entire short lifespan where it is trapped in a crate, unable to move, and thus the creation of veal. After calving, newborns are hit on the head with a hammer or pulled away from their mothers after just one day together, which causes explosive stress to both mother and baby. Does Michael Eavis approve of this? It appears so. Milk is worse than "meat" because on dairy farms the cows are tortured for YEARS before they are killed. Calves are pulled away from their mothers by dragging the calf with one leg, both mother and calf in a state of chaotic distress.
Does Michael Eavis at his Glastonbury Farm accommodate any cows at all that do not yield money his way? I doubt it. Off with their heads!
Does Michael Eavis care about the insane environmental damage caused by dairy farming? I doubt it. To hell with the environment! People who do not care about animal rights usually do not care about human rights. It naturally follows.
Should you actually agree to play at the Glastonbury Festival you might find visual arts expert Michael Eavis meddling with your presentations. In 2011 I played Glastonbury and attempted to sing the song Meat is murder. Behind me, a screen that usually shows the many evils of factory farming remained blank. I was told that Michael Eavis had stopped the screening of the film because it wasn't indicative of how his dairy farm operated. He didn't quite understand that the poor souls in the actual film did not want to be there in the first place. Michael Eavis also went on to justify banning the film by saying it would "upset" younger people. What Michael Eavis was saying, in effect, was:

it's OK for our belly, but not for our eyes … and at all costs don't educate anyone on animal cruelty because it might damage the financial profits of our happy Glastonbury Farm.

If he had thought the film gave an incorrect view of dairy farming, he wouldn't have cared if the film had been shown, but he banned the film because he knew the film was truth.

Like most animal haters, Michael appears to be one of those people who love dead animals, yet hate live ones. How is this sane, or logical, or possible?
If dogs and cats aren't 'food', then why are cows and sheep? The BBC recently made a terrible fuss when some unfortunate dogs were allegedly poisoned at Crufts - which, yes, was abysmal. But the BBC had no concern or report on the 40,000 piglets whose throats were slit in the UK in that very same week.
Why is the latter not a BBC story? Why is a poisoned dog at Crufts a story for national lamentation, yet the slaughter of 40,000 screaming piglets is not mentioned anywhere on any known news program?
If a dog is not food, then why is a pig?
Well, you might argue that 'oooh I love bacon', but if you love the pig dead, why do you not love the pig while it is alive, and why do you not protect it from slaughter … if you "love" "bacon" so much? Surely if you eat animals it's because you hate rather than love them?
Is a cat 'food'? No. So why is a lamb?
We have been trained and brainwashed to believe that some animals deserve to be killed and some don't, and much advertising effort is put into the hope that we do not ever decide for ourselves. No celebrity vegetarian chefs on the BBC! There is also heavy reliance on the hope that humans never quite become intelligent enough to understand that both humans and animals have natural rights. After all, as Gary Yourofsky brilliantly observed: if you remove bees or ants from the planet the entire cycle of life is damaged, but if you remove human beings from the planet then the entire planet will prosper and be saved.
Should we care that factory farming (which isn't farming at all - it's an industry very much like any other) is irrefutably linked to cancer in humans? Are you aware that the "country smell" so powerful in idyllic areas is actually the smell of mass slaughter of animals? Does anyone actually believe that the badger kill (not 'cull') is a move to protect cows, or to protect godly farmers' income? Are you aware that the virus of factory farming causes more greenhouse gas emissions than all combined forms of motorized transport? Of course you're not, for if you knew how much the "meat" industry is destroying the planet, well, you might grow wise to the biggest threat to your own life.

Like many animal haters, Michael Eavis was awarded a CBE by Elizabeth Battenberg (you have been ordered to address her as The Queen) in 2007. In 2005 he expressed how it was "outrageous to ban hunting". For such as Michael Eavis, there just cannot be enough bloodshed. More! More! More! Kill! Kill! Kill! Would he object if the hunters were also hunted?

Animal rights is now the leading social justice issue on the planet. Your decision is whether you support either the butcher or the butchered. It cannot be both.

Morrissey
8 April 2015

Says the so called 'man' 'animal right activist' who RAN AWAY INTO THE DISTANCE WAVING A WHITE FLAG ! Rather than face some old age men known as THE DUCK DYNASTY ! That's right you heard me THE 4KING DUCK DYNASTY !
You just can't make this shit up L M A O, everything he says or touches turns into a comedy club piss up,.
Keep it up Silly Steven you charlatan crankfraud.
Action is your middle name my arse you're an embarrassment to the Salford school of hard knocks, never show your boat race in Manchester ever again.

Benny-the-British-Butcher
 
30 years since Meat is Murder and he at long last educates on the ills of dairy. About time he made the connection!

"Milk is worse than "meat" because on dairy farms the cows are tortured for YEARS before they are killed."
 
im terribly afraid that benny is right, you could NOT make this up, if you were writing a shakespearean tragedy. after spending much time defending moz against the accusations lobbed at him by benny and brummie he takes up their cause directly.

furthermore, he has played glaston several times himself, how hypocritcal is that, is it that he was turned down wanting to return, and wishes he had the pay day.
 
So Moz drinks soy instead which boosts the female hormone Estrogen giving men gynecomastia (manboobs). With his see through shirts I hope he chooses a sexy bra.
 
30 years since Meat is Murder and he at long last educates on the ills of dairy. About time he made the connection!

"Milk is worse than "meat" because on dairy farms the cows are tortured for YEARS before they are killed."

Better late than never. With this statement he can begin to repair his psyche, his reputation and his mental health. Ever since I found out he WAS a Cheesetarian I was certain some of his depression was related to the cognitive dissonance of singing 'Meat Is Murder' whilst having cheese on his backstage rider. It appears he has genuinely woken up to a LOT of cutting edge thinking, on the debates around Carnism, in particular.

Thanks for your excellent input into Cheesegate over the last few months. And thanks to "Benny The Butcher"!

I am looking forward to the reactions of his 'fan' community to this statement and will enjoy responding to all who have referenced my name in this thread to date, once I have re-read and digested this new alignment of Morrissey with cutting-edge thinking.

LOL! I think this thread might get LOUD!

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Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows


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Re: True to You: Glastonbury

he probably gave up dairy a while ago when he ordered the soy drink everyone refers to. i also think it unlikely that he reads any of this posted here but lets fill our egos anyway

He does read it. Don't you remember the reaction to this 'community' expressing it's views on KAL, PATSE & AIMMN? He was most displeased. He even wore a t-shirt to protest the injustice of it. But let's not dwell on those discordant memories as we digest this latest *fascinating* update.

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