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Fascinating to see you are litteraly incapable of thinking outside of your own propaganda. It's not only a difference of opinion here, it's the fact that you cannot accept the reality because it does not fit your "world view" (to use a nice word). You think mass immigration is great : great ! I think the opposite, but I don't deny your ability to
1) love the Smiths from day one (or day 24)
2) love Morrissey and his solo music
3) be a nice human being
whereas, as a self proclaimed anti mass-immigration man, I
1) am a fake fan pretending loving the Smiths from day one but in fact loving Spandeau Ballet
2) am not able and will never be able to really understand and love The Smiths
3) am a Nazi (but that goes without saying of course).
If you lefties / liberals on here were acting with a little care and thinking, maybe I could take some time to try to discuss with you the "Smiths were a gentle band with kind, compassionate lyrics" sentence of yours. It could be interesting: first "Hang the DJ" is not very kind and second being anti mass-immigration IS the compassionate and kind and gentle and humanist way of dealing with the world right now). But I know it will soon come to "racist c***", "nazi", "shit stain" and "f*** off", so...
'Racism' is an over-used term that has become totally devalued and meaningless.
Well, where to start. Whether you know it or not, many people still do believe in racism and believe that one is superior to others. That much is quite clear to anyone paying attention.
While I agree that Stalinism (aka Marxism-Leninism) was an ideology that led to the deaths and persecutions of millions, orthodox Marxism (aka the thoughts of Marx and Engels themselves) itself isn't an inherently authoritarian or oppressive ideology, whereas racist ideologies tend to be. If you've read any Marx, you'll know that Marx advocated for a stateless, democratic society, not a totalitarian dictatorship by a few at the top, which would only maintain the status quo under a different guise.
Additionally, there even more libertarian strands of Marxism, such as anarcho-communism, libertarian communism, libertarian Marxism etc etc. Look even further, and you'll see that "leftist" ideology is this massive sprawling web of ideologies, including social democracy, Christian socialism, democratic socialism, libertarianism (the real kind, not the 20th century American kind), state socialism, orthodox Marxism, authoritarian communism, Trotskyism, Stalinism etc etc. There is no one single "Marxism" or socialism. The idea that "the left still flirts with Marxism" is nonsense. There isn't a singl, major "Marxist" party in the developed, democratic world right now.
Fascinating to see you are litteraly incapable of thinking outside of your own propaganda. It's not only a difference of opinion here, it's the fact that you cannot accept the reality because it does not fit your "world view" (to use a nice word). You think mass immigration is great : great ! I think the opposite, but I don't deny your ability to
1) love the Smiths from day one (or day 24)
2) love Morrissey and his solo music
3) be a nice human being
whereas, as a self proclaimed anti mass-immigration man, I
1) am a fake fan pretending loving the Smiths from day one but in fact loving Spandeau Ballet
2) am not able and will never be able to really understand and love The Smiths
3) am a Nazi (but that goes without saying of course).
If you lefties / liberals on here were acting with a little care and thinking, maybe I could take some time to try to discuss with you the "Smiths were a gentle band with kind, compassionate lyrics" sentence of yours. It could be interesting: first "Hang the DJ" is not very kind and second being anti mass-immigration IS the compassionate and kind and gentle and humanist way of dealing with the world right now). But I know it will soon come to "racist c***", "nazi", "shit stain" and "f*** off", so...
You fell at the first hurdle. Buy a dictionary.
Fascinating to see you are litteraly incapable of thinking outside of your own propaganda. It's not only a difference of opinion here, it's the fact that you cannot accept the reality because it does not fit your "world view" (to use a nice word). You think mass immigration is great : great ! I think the opposite, but I don't deny your ability to
1) love the Smiths from day one (or day 24)
2) love Morrissey and his solo music
3) be a nice human being
whereas, as a self proclaimed anti mass-immigration man, I
1) am a fake fan pretending loving the Smiths from day one but in fact loving Spandeau Ballet
2) am not able and will never be able to really understand and love The Smiths
3) am a Nazi (but that goes without saying of course).
If you lefties / liberals on here were acting with a little care and thinking, maybe I could take some time to try to discuss with you the "Smiths were a gentle band with kind, compassionate lyrics" sentence of yours. It could be interesting: first "Hang the DJ" is not very kind and second being anti mass-immigration IS the compassionate and kind and gentle and humanist way of dealing with the world right now). But I know it will soon come to "racist c***", "nazi", "shit stain" and "f*** off", so...
Listen, Farnaby, I believe in the Popper Paradox, which asserted that societies that tolerate the intolerant become less and less tolerant, as happened in Weimar Germany, and as is happening now in the UK and USA. Racist c***s like you have been allowed to flourish and propagate for too long.
As for calling you a Nazi, I didn't call you a Nazi. I said people who spout the myth of Cultural Marxism are literally spouting a post war version of the Nazi propaganda "Cultural Bolshevism" which was anti-Semitic in nature.
I believe in the Popper Paradox
Not a word of response about my points, but the usual "racist c***" terminology. Why am I not surprised ?Listen, Farnaby, I believe in the Popper Paradox, which asserted that societies that tolerate the intolerant become less and less tolerant, as happened in Weimar Germany, and as is happening now in the UK and USA. Racist c***s like you have been allowed to flourish and propagate for too long.
As for calling you a Nazi, I didn't call you a Nazi. I said people who spout the myth of Cultural Marxism are literally spouting a post war version of the Nazi propaganda "Cultural Bolshevism" which was anti-Semitic in nature.
FAIL. Writing more pish isn't proof of anything. Cite your references.
Listen, Farnaby, I believe in the Popper Paradox, which asserted that societies that tolerate the intolerant become less and less tolerant, as happened in Weimar Germany, and as is happening now in the UK and USA. Racist c***s like you have been allowed to flourish and propagate for too long.
As for calling you a Nazi, I didn't call you a Nazi. I said people who spout the myth of Cultural Marxism are literally spouting a post war version of the Nazi propaganda "Cultural Bolshevism" which was anti-Semitic in nature.
That was a syllogism meant to reflect your thoughts, you spoon. Granted, Farnaby's wasn't a perfect execution... but it's devilishly painful to see you miss the mark so proudly.At which point did I say I was anti-mass immigration?
Well, where to start. Whether you know it or not, many people still do believe in racism and believe that one is superior to others. That much is quite clear to anyone paying attention.
While I agree that Stalinism (aka Marxism-Leninism) was an ideology that led to the deaths and persecutions of millions, orthodox Marxism (aka the thoughts of Marx and Engels themselves) itself isn't an inherently authoritarian or oppressive ideology, whereas racist ideologies tend to be. If you've read any Marx, you'll know that Marx advocated for a stateless, democratic society, not a totalitarian dictatorship by a few at the top, which would only maintain the status quo under a different guise.
Additionally, there even more libertarian strands of Marxism, such as anarcho-communism, libertarian communism, libertarian Marxism etc etc. Look even further, and you'll see that "leftist" ideology is this massive sprawling web of ideologies, including social democracy, Christian socialism, democratic socialism, libertarianism (the real kind, not the 20th century American kind), state socialism, orthodox Marxism, authoritarian communism, Trotskyism, Stalinism etc etc. There is no one single "Marxism" or socialism. The idea that "the left still flirts with Marxism" is nonsense. There isn't a singl, major "Marxist" party in the developed, democratic world right now.
Well, where to start. Whether you know it or not, many people still do believe in racism and believe that one is superior to others. That much is quite clear to anyone paying attention.
While I agree that Stalinism (aka Marxism-Leninism) was an ideology that led to the deaths and persecutions of millions, orthodox Marxism (aka the thoughts of Marx and Engels themselves) itself isn't an inherently authoritarian or oppressive ideology, whereas racist ideologies tend to be. If you've read any Marx, you'll know that Marx advocated for a stateless, democratic society, not a totalitarian dictatorship by a few at the top, which would only maintain the status quo under a different guise.
Additionally, there even more libertarian strands of Marxism, such as anarcho-communism, libertarian communism, libertarian Marxism etc etc. Look even further, and you'll see that "leftist" ideology is this massive sprawling web of ideologies, including social democracy, Christian socialism, democratic socialism, libertarianism (the real kind, not the 20th century American kind), state socialism, orthodox Marxism, authoritarian communism, Trotskyism, Stalinism etc etc. There is no one single "Marxism" or socialism. The idea that "the left still flirts with Marxism" is nonsense. There isn't a singl, major "Marxist" party in the developed, democratic world right now.
The Daily Mail. The f***ing Daily Mail. Are you kidding? Whites never rape anyone, ever!
You fell at the first hurdle. Buy a dictionary.
Bless him. Give this man a medal. He's s done a public service. <3
Absolutely. And these intolerant people are slowly revealing their hand.The UK is less tolerant but not for the left/progressives.........it's never been more beyond the pale.
Well, where to start. Whether you know it or not, many people still do believe in racism and believe that one is superior to others. That much is quite clear to anyone paying attention.
While I agree that Stalinism (aka Marxism-Leninism) was an ideology that led to the deaths and persecutions of millions, orthodox Marxism (aka the thoughts of Marx and Engels themselves) itself isn't an inherently authoritarian or oppressive ideology, whereas racist ideologies tend to be. If you've read any Marx, you'll know that Marx advocated for a stateless, democratic society, not a totalitarian dictatorship by a few at the top, which would only maintain the status quo under a different guise.
Additionally, there even more libertarian strands of Marxism, such as anarcho-communism, libertarian communism, libertarian Marxism etc etc. Look even further, and you'll see that "leftist" ideology is this massive sprawling web of ideologies, including social democracy, Christian socialism, democratic socialism, libertarianism (the real kind, not the 20th century American kind), state socialism, orthodox Marxism, authoritarian communism, Trotskyism, Stalinism etc etc. There is no one single "Marxism" or socialism. The idea that "the left still flirts with Marxism" is nonsense. There isn't a singl, major "Marxist" party in the developed, democratic world right now.
Nice to see you have an open mind. You don't think the word is over-used? You don't think using the word to chuck at Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party, for example, is an over-use of the word? Words - just like coins circulating in an economy - become debased when other things are added to devalue their original content. In the case of the r word - it is debased when used simply to describe anyone whose views deviate from mainstream opinion. I'm not a fan of Jeremy Corbyn - but I recognise chucking the r word at him (and his party) is an over-use of the word and devalues it. The same can be said of Moz - who clearly abhors racism and everything racist ideology stands for.