Easy: John Cale. He wouldn’t have let them rest so easy with a thin punk sound.@Hovis Lesley, if you could turn the clock back and choose a different producer for The Smiths debut, who would you pick? What kind of sound would you go for?
It may seem silly to some, but I've often fantasized about a version of the debut that was produced in the same style as the first Dire Straits album. "Still Ill" should have had the same lean and agile touch that "Sultans of Swing" has. I can hear it so clearly.
Ah yeah, that's a good choice. I'd err more towards Horses-era Cale than Stooges-era Cale, but I'm sure he would've done something interesting with the material either way.Easy: John Cale.
I'm looking forward to the Sing along Disney listening party.I inherited all The Smiths albums as a toddler because my teenage sister bought them to impress a boyfriend & then dumped them in my room. I was listening to Strangeways Here We Come & Singalong Disney.
I still remember being terrified by Death of a Disco Dancer. It was so eerie. And I sang Unhappy Birthday to my baby brother. Which nearly got them confiscated.
@Hovis Lesley, if you could turn the clock back and choose a different producer for The Smiths debut, who would you pick? What kind of sound would you go for?
It may seem silly to some, but I've often fantasized about a version of the debut that was produced in the same style as the first Dire Straits album. "Still Ill" should have had the same lean and agile touch that "Sultans of Swing" has. I can hear it so clearly.
It's true, but The Smiths are way too lively for Hannett. They were the antithesis of that cold Factory sound.Martin Hannett would have been an interesting choice.
I started somethingStrangeways has always been my least favourite Smiths album. Whilst there are some great tracks on it - Started Something, Disco Dancer, Girlfriend, Last Night, Vulgar Picture - the rest is just ok. The group had lost its mojo and was coming to an end. You an hear it on this album. It was good it ended when it did - before the quality of the music deteriorated. It's tempting to speculate if 'I Started Something I Couldn't Finish' was Moz on some level unconsciously prophesying the ending of the group? Probably just coincidence of course - but strange things happen during the creative process.
It's tempting to speculate if 'I Started Something I Couldn't Finish' was Moz on some level unconsciously prophesying the ending of the group? Probably just coincidence of course - but strange things happen during the creative process.
Around 3:40: "Ok Steven shall we do that again?"
No I didn't know, I thought it was Stephen addressing Steven...It's Morrissey addressing Stephen Street.
I Don't Want Us To Finish was a Morrissey/Street song. It's included in Street's Viva Hate songbook, written down between Lifeguard On Duty and Little Man, What Now?, probably written at the very beginning of their partnership.Wasn't one of the lost / abandoned tracks at the miserable Streatham sessions called, "I Don't Want Us to Finish"?
It's just banter from the recording booth after M had finished his vocal that was left in.No I didn't know, I thought it was Stephen addressing Steven...
Referencing Autobiography, more or less as confirmed by Joyce's comments:
"Strangeways, Here We Come is the most joyful and relaxed Smiths studio session, with crates of beer wheeled in at the close of each day and no war in sight."
Wonderful.
Referencing Autobiography, more or less as confirmed by Joyce's comments:
"Strangeways, Here We Come is the most joyful and relaxed Smiths studio session, with crates of beer wheeled in at the close of each day and no war in sight."
Wonderful.
Johnny: "I didn’t want it to be our last record. I would have been really happy for it not to be our last record. But if the business and management pressures were gonna carry on being on my shoulders then I’d made the decision that spiritually, emotionally and physically I wasn’t gonna collapse under the weight of it. But it was a really liberating feeling making that album. We all had a great time, maybe because I was having such a good time."
Andy: "Everybody thinks as it was the last album that we were falling apart but we weren’t. The four of us really came together and it was probably the best time we ever had as a group."
Does the first album not have something of that Factory sound anyway? Hannett would’ve compounded, rather than solved, the production issues we can see now (which is to say, with the hindsight afforded by Meat is Murder).It's true, but The Smiths are way too lively for Hannett. They were the antithesis of that cold Factory sound.