Tim Westwood - national disgrace
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Black_Eyed_Sioux
Hey Doug, how ya been??
Haha! Tosser...
theneverplayedsymphony
The World's Forgotten Boy
Jay-Z looks like he's presenting that show... Westwood looks like the top to stand behind the tough kids and say "Yeah" every now and then and then run off crying when they look at him funny.
...Did he call him "My brudder"?!
...Did he call him "My brudder"?!
Buzzetta
WOOOOOOOO!!!!!
There are those that speak like this that do strictly for the camera. I knew this girl that taught Busta Rhymes kids. In front of a camera Busta Rhymes is all "whoo ha!!". Off camera, Trevor Smith is a very articulate individual who rarely misses a parent teacher conference and is but a phone call away in case anyone needs to get in touch with him concerning his kids. Basically he is all PTA Mom and everything.
Hip hop? For some it's all an act people.
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...but where's the talent? I seriously do not get it. What has this guy got that makes him popular? Where's the talent? Seriously, what does he do?
I'm not so arrogant to think that the stuff I like is universally adored, different strokes and all that, but I admire talent in its many forms - Bryn Terfel, Steve Vai, Gerschwin, Bacharach, Joanna Newsom...I'm really struggling to see the talent in Busta Rhymes - will someone explain it to me please.
Peter
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He speaks to people whose culture is similiar to the ones their characters portray on TV. It's a culture and way of life for some people.
I think he's quite talented in portraying that character. Now, as far as his lyrics go I don't find those very impressive either. But some people do.
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Dave
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I've never heard of him so at least he isn't an international disgrace.
IDon'tOweYouAnything23
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I went to see this pleb DJ the other night (don't ask why, I was very, very drunk and we wondered into this club) and I can honestly say I was so close to throwing my drink in his face, he's a disgrace to human kind tbh
Fair point. It's always subjective. However, when the 'Book' is written, I think in the lyricism battle, Morrissey would win 98% against Busta Rhymes' 2%. That's got to be a safe bet. I'm of to the bookies.
Peter
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Dave
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I had a painting teacher that would tell us what was good and bad and say that it wasn't taste, that it wasn't subjective, that her opinion was the truth. I know a voice teacher that thinks it's opera or nothing. She wouldn't see that much difference between Morrissey or Busta Rhymes. Neither of them "uses their voice properly" would be her opinion if she could listen to 3 seconds of it.
I think some artists are gifted. They can express something and make people feel it. As far as talent, that's a backhanded compliment. There are a lot of talented people that don't inspire people. Talent is the person playing scales very fast, a technically proficient bore. In my opinion, which is also the truth.
I think some artists are gifted. They can express something and make people feel it. As far as talent, that's a backhanded compliment. There are a lot of talented people that don't inspire people. Talent is the person playing scales very fast, a technically proficient bore. In my opinion, which is also the truth.
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Dave
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Did I win?
That's a big Q.E.D right there.
I think some artists are gifted. They can express something and make people feel it. As far as talent, that's a backhanded compliment. There are a lot of talented people that don't inspire people. Talent is the person playing scales very fast, a technically proficient bore. In my opinion, which is also the truth.
I think talent is clear. Talent is obvious. Critics have a wild variety of opinion. I read in one of Kenneth William's books (Acid Drops), a quote from someone (I'll dig it out tomorrow, I took the book to my office) that said "There's something fundamentally wrong about critics. What's good is good, without us being told so".
Peter
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Dave
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I don't care for critics generally either, but I don't think that the good ones tell us what is good, but why, and give some insight into the work.
You're right that talent is apparent, but Celine Dion is apparently talented, and very boring in my opinion. Not all art will reach all people.
Which rappers do you think are talented? And forget about politically correct or choosing them because they have a positive message. Morrissey is not politically correct and I'm not sure that you'd be able to say that he has a positive message.
I suspect that it's really about you not liking rap music unless it's polite and agrees with your politics and view of society.
It always Chacun A Son Gout, always. We must remember that. Vive La Difference and all that.
Good point about Celine Dion. She is obviously phenomenally talented, but used it to bore. In my opinion.
It takes a special person with a special connectivity to mean something. That's why I have always been a Morrissey fan.
Peter
IDon'tOweYouAnything23
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Maaaan i haven't laughed so much ...since i got down wiv me homies from the hood......or some other shit.
Oh you know it! braaaap!
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Dave
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well, see that's exactly what I mean. I've found some music I liked in the past to become less interesting, while some of it just gains more depth and resonance as life experiences may cause you to view it in new ways, and see other things in it.
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