CrystalGeezer
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Re: The positivity on this site is terrible
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
this site is so hypocrtical
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Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
Of course, yes. That little rant wasn't really specifically aimed at you, by the way; it was just a general criticism of people who genuinely do think that way (confusing 'truth' with opinion is one of my pet hates and something I get a bit obsessive about). It's all semantics with me.
Thanks, I just spat water all over my jeans.
Of course, yes. That little rant wasn't really specifically aimed at you, by the way; it was just a general criticism of people who genuinely do think that way (confusing 'truth' with opinion is one of my pet hates and something I get a bit obsessive about). It's all semantics with me.
Thanks, I just spat water all over my jeans.
Stanley the 2nd
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Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
Morrissey needs to take a reality check. His current output is poor and he needs to up his game. He really is trading on past glories.
Morrissey needs to take a reality check. His current output is poor and he needs to up his game. He really is trading on past glories.
Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
I don't remember that at all. I remember us all thinking he'd have a number 1 if he released first the gang as a single, I remember thinking mexico was ace (I hate the studio version) and I remember thinking irish blood was brilliant live too. I just can't get into these new songs and I don't think it is a good sign at all. Morrissey is a old fashion bugger who probably picked his best stuff for this as he sees a radio session as a really important piece of promotion, look at the past, the smiths did some of their best work in sessions.
I still love Morrisseys voice and although his lyrics tend to go over old themes and don't chime with me like they did in the past, I can forgive him for this. What he needs to realise is that he needs some new guitarists and songwriting partners, he has been too loyal to average musicians for too long.
I don't remember that at all. I remember us all thinking he'd have a number 1 if he released first the gang as a single, I remember thinking mexico was ace (I hate the studio version) and I remember thinking irish blood was brilliant live too. I just can't get into these new songs and I don't think it is a good sign at all. Morrissey is a old fashion bugger who probably picked his best stuff for this as he sees a radio session as a really important piece of promotion, look at the past, the smiths did some of their best work in sessions.
I still love Morrisseys voice and although his lyrics tend to go over old themes and don't chime with me like they did in the past, I can forgive him for this. What he needs to realise is that he needs some new guitarists and songwriting partners, he has been too loyal to average musicians for too long.
kyleleonard
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Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
People pay a lot of money for CDs, tickets, etc so they're entitled to an opinion, tbf.
People pay a lot of money for CDs, tickets, etc so they're entitled to an opinion, tbf.
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Skylarker
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Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
I don't see this as shit-stirring; I see it as honest. Morrissey isn't a six-year old kid who scribbles a drawing and brings it to Mommy who then feels compelled to praise him as the next DaVinci and tape it to the fridge so the kid feels good. We don't owe him any synthetic accolades.
He has a right to put out whatever he wants, and we -as fans who have stuck with him for ages and who he depends on to buy the music- have a right to say it sucks...IF WE THINK IT DOES.
And we do.
I was practically in tears during the piano intro of Action Is My Middle Name.
The ten minutes that followed, however, ALSO put me in tears...for a different reason.
I would LOVE to be posting to the point of coronary arrest about how much I love the new songs and how great they are. But I feel the opposite, so I'll post accordingly.
I in no way begrudge you your right to like the new songs, or to claim you like the new songs. But if others say they think the songs are trash, why do you see that as shit-stirring?
I think this is an absurdly obtuse post.
Maybe he IS pouring his heart out on the new songs..and his heart simply doesn't have that much to say anymore. More and more I'm starting to resign myself to this being the case.
No one is implying we think he has a duty to us. We are simply disappointed with yet another batch of sub-par, bland, A-B-C cockrock from him. If we DID NOT think he was capable of better, we wouldn't complain. At least not as much.
So basically you're saying...it is better to put out totally forgettable crap and become a laughable, watered-down self-parody than retire with dignity a legacy of music marked (for the most part) by heartbreaking, anthemic vocal melodies, phenomenal, one-of-a-kind lyrics, and uncompromising, unmitigated artistic vision?
Sorry, gotta disagree with you on that one.
I'd like to go back in time to the Australian radio interview from the Meat is Murder era where he tells the interviewer, "when I have to struggle and grasp for something to say, I think I'll probably stop then."
I'd let him know that 2011 is that time.
I don't see this as shit-stirring; I see it as honest. Morrissey isn't a six-year old kid who scribbles a drawing and brings it to Mommy who then feels compelled to praise him as the next DaVinci and tape it to the fridge so the kid feels good. We don't owe him any synthetic accolades.
He has a right to put out whatever he wants, and we -as fans who have stuck with him for ages and who he depends on to buy the music- have a right to say it sucks...IF WE THINK IT DOES.
And we do.
I was practically in tears during the piano intro of Action Is My Middle Name.
The ten minutes that followed, however, ALSO put me in tears...for a different reason.
I would LOVE to be posting to the point of coronary arrest about how much I love the new songs and how great they are. But I feel the opposite, so I'll post accordingly.
I in no way begrudge you your right to like the new songs, or to claim you like the new songs. But if others say they think the songs are trash, why do you see that as shit-stirring?
I think this is an absurdly obtuse post.
Maybe he IS pouring his heart out on the new songs..and his heart simply doesn't have that much to say anymore. More and more I'm starting to resign myself to this being the case.
No one is implying we think he has a duty to us. We are simply disappointed with yet another batch of sub-par, bland, A-B-C cockrock from him. If we DID NOT think he was capable of better, we wouldn't complain. At least not as much.
So basically you're saying...it is better to put out totally forgettable crap and become a laughable, watered-down self-parody than retire with dignity a legacy of music marked (for the most part) by heartbreaking, anthemic vocal melodies, phenomenal, one-of-a-kind lyrics, and uncompromising, unmitigated artistic vision?
Sorry, gotta disagree with you on that one.
I'd like to go back in time to the Australian radio interview from the Meat is Murder era where he tells the interviewer, "when I have to struggle and grasp for something to say, I think I'll probably stop then."
I'd let him know that 2011 is that time.
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M-in-Oz
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Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
Well, he still saying something to me. I like the new songs - I find that in every song there is a moment where it just is beautiful. A particular phrasing, or the way he can emotionally sing a line that just makes me stop whatever I am doing and become lost for a moment.
What I object to is the constant being told "these are bad songs" and any form of positivity (or even admitting to liking the songs) is rejected as "worship".
Well, he still saying something to me. I like the new songs - I find that in every song there is a moment where it just is beautiful. A particular phrasing, or the way he can emotionally sing a line that just makes me stop whatever I am doing and become lost for a moment.
What I object to is the constant being told "these are bad songs" and any form of positivity (or even admitting to liking the songs) is rejected as "worship".
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Skylarker
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Just a bit.
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Skylarker
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Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
I disagree...for the most part.
The worst song on Refusal was still much better than any of these.
I...think.
2009 was that time!
I disagree...for the most part.
The worst song on Refusal was still much better than any of these.
I...think.
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Skylarker
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Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
Correct...I'm whistling a medley of Dixie/Rock of Ages/Angel Band/Battle Hymn of the Republic...
Correct...I'm whistling a medley of Dixie/Rock of Ages/Angel Band/Battle Hymn of the Republic...
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Skylarker
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Re: The negativity on this site is terrible
Angel Band is a good song.
Angel Band is a good song.
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