The world's oldest music store Spillers Records bans Morrissey albums

Morrissey banned. Let the book burning's begin..



Spillers Records bans Morrissey music over his support for the far right - Wales Online
The world's oldest record store said it was 'saddened but not surprised'

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The world's oldest record store Spillers Records in Cardiff has banned Morrissey records from its store.

The shop, in Morgan Arcade, is refusing to stock the singer's releases because of his continued support for the far-right.

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However, one place you won't be able to buy the album is Cardiff's much loved independent record shop Spillers.

Ashli Todd, the owner of Spillers said: "I'm saddened but ultimately not surprised that Spillers is unable to stock Morrissey’s releases any longer. I only wished I’d done it sooner.”

Spillers owner Ashli Todd (Image: WalesOnline/Rob Browne)

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Media coverage:

• World's Oldest Record Store Bans Morrissey Sales Because He Has a Different Opinion - Infowars via Drudge Report
• Morrissey’s music banned from the world’s oldest record store - NME
  

 

[ordinaryboy86]

Probably you are just a sad and lonely person. Nothing wrong with that, but if you hate Morrissey so much why do you run the Morrissey/Smiths rarities FB page and why do you spend your days (and money) looking for Moz/Smiths related stuff? You can do whatever the f*** you want with your time, but it just doesn't make sense to me. I would find it depressing when I spend my time on a "fascist/racist" or on someone I dislike. Have a nice day.

Oh haha

 

[Famous when dead]

Who else is mirroring Morrissey’s behaviour? Who deserves the same banning treatment? I’m sure you actually have a list of names tbh lol but I don’t follow the music scene much, so I don’t know which other artists are out there plugging this campaign and wearing For Britain badges on tv, which other artists have received personal video messages from Anne Marie Waters thanking them for their endorsement.

This deserves a very long answer and it would delve in to topics that are still being discussed via perpetual keyboard tennis in other threads - that's not really something I often engage with.
So to that end: I most respectfully decline to progress with my view.
I think I've said enough.
That said, how I square any of Morrissey's real or alleged behaviour over the last 35 years whilst still collecting and listening to his music is deeply personal and not something I do blindly and without any thought.
It doesn't need to be explained here really.
I know that is to the chagrin of others, but that's how it is.
Here are 2 statements that I believe many here agree with (I do) and that are not yet mutually exclusive:
1. I can not abide bigotry.
2. I enjoy hearing & collecting Morrissey's music.
If that makes anyone hypocritical, conflicted or complicated - then, yes, that's me.
I feel the same about all sorts of art that may come from/be seen to support provocative topics.
Off to stalk the web,
Regards,
FWD.

 

[vegan cro spirit 333]

Not sure where you get the impression that I'm 'left-

wing'. Not said that anywhere in my post. Pointed out the rise of violence and hatred towards people of a certain religion or colour is not left-wing.

Here's a wee bit of evidence to back it up - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...se-since-brexit-vote-nationwide-study-reveals

Hardly left-wing to condone violence and hatred towards those of a different culture.

Poor Twat

took umbrage as being classified as a twat, this puppet loon

only a left wing twat would refer to something by 'the guardian'-mega left wing cucks, as 'evidence'

living on the dole stifles the brain cells.

 

[vegan cro spirit 333]

I wholly disagree, I believe it’s 100% a moral choice.
Sounds to me like she’s finally had enough of Morrissey’s constant whining and negativity & now publicly endorsing a far right campaign, Morrissey is a bag egg. (Fans) You’re guilty of fascism & racism by association now, that’s how bad it’s got with the stink that surrounds him. Maybe she’s hated him for years, and begrudgingly sold his records, and this is the final straw. Maybe she’s been an adoring fan and now feels disappointed & let down. But some of the cry baby arguments on here make no sense, might aswell be saying “Ban Eminem cos’ he says naughty words”, why would she tho, that doesn’t affect her personally, “ban jacko, he’s a peado”, again, doesn’t affect her personally so it’s a pointless comparison. Morrissey is campaigning for something utterly poisonous, and she’s obviously at odds with it. Good on her.

if she really finally had had enough of Moz negativity, she would be posting here with the rest of you
cuck twats.

 

[McCol]

took umbrage as being classified as a twat, this puppet loon

only a left wing twat would refer to something by 'the guardian'-mega left wing cucks, as 'evidence'

living on the dole stifles the brain cells.

Nope I've been a twat for a long time so no offence taken, not a left wing twat though.
The Guardian is far from left wing, that would be the Morning Star your thinking of.

Your responses suggest to me however that your probably more at home gazing lovingly at some pictures and grunt noises from your role model Mr Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

 

[ordinaryboy86]

if she really finally had had enough of Moz negativity, she would be posting here with the rest of you
cuck twats.

She is! Posting as anon. Her IP Hash is: m0z15atw4t

 

[Jeffrey7777]

Crikey.

 

[BookishBoy]

Who else is mirroring Morrissey’s behaviour? Who deserves the same banning treatment? I’m sure you actually have a list of names tbh lol but I don’t follow the music scene much, so I don’t know which other artists are out there plugging this campaign and wearing For Britain badges on tv, which other artists have received personal video messages from Anne Marie Waters thanking them for their endorsement.

That's a fair point - and as I'm sure you know, no other musicians are publicly backing either For Britain or the Brexit Party. So Morrissey's very much on his own, here.

But I still think this banning of artists for certain criteria is very, very slippery. Does the shop stock any XTC records? (Andy Partridge spouts some hardcore Holocaust related stuff on Twitter.) What about Primal Scream, after Bobby G's Madonna-related tantrum of the other day? Where do you draw the line, here?

Having said that, I just read an in-depth interview/article about Ashli Todd and she comes across as a sane and good-hearted human being. But I still think this is a cheap stunt on her part!

Ah, nuances nuances.

 

[Anonymous]

David Bowie praised Nazism once - he'd have to go too.

Exactly what I thought when I saw the Bowie picture up on the back wall. People do like to pick and choose what they find offensive according with what the rest do.. Always have. Tit.

 

[Anonymous]

That's a fair point - and as I'm sure you know, no other musicians are publicly backing either For Britain or the Brexit Party. So Morrissey's very much on his own, here.

But I still think this banning of artists for certain criteria is very, very slippery. Does the shop stock any XTC records? (Andy Partridge spouts some hardcore Holocaust related stuff on Twitter.) What about Primal Scream, after Bobby G's Madonna-related tantrum of the other day? Where do you draw the line, here?

Having said that, I just read an in-depth interview/article about Ashli Todd and she comes across as a sane and good-hearted human being. But I still think this is a cheap stunt on her part!

Ah, nuances nuances.

Do you mean there are no musicians who supported brexit or none who supported the “brexit party” (a specific group named brexit party I’m unaware of). I think there were some celebrities who supported brexit or at least said there was some merit in it

 

[BookishBoy]

Do you mean there are no musicians who supported brexit or none who supported the “brexit party” (a specific group named brexit party I’m unaware of). I think there were some celebrities who supported brexit or at least said there was some merit in it

Sorry for being vague about that - I mean the recently formed Brexit Party, led by Trump buddy and ex-UKIP leader Nigel Farage, which seems on course to win the biggest share of the vote in the European elections that are being held today here in the UK. (Which is a pretty astonishing thing for a newly formed political party to achieve.)

Morrissey definitely isn't the only artist to have suggested that Brexit might be a good thing, you're right.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh I know he's not responsible for people's actions but those with a narrow mind and lack of being able to look beyond hatred will use any reason/excuse to spout hatred.

The original point was about the record shop, I'm not sure it makes any difference to anything really, my point is that by wearing a badge or making some of the comments he has made he is helping to contribute towards the growing issue of hatred towards those of a different colour/culture - racism

I don’t think he is though. Contributing that is. I remember the whole Bernie bros issue where a faction of his supporters and not necessarily a small faction were harassing and doxing people all over the place or where they threw chairs at one event. I didn’t hold people who voiced support for as contributing to the justification of vandalism lawlessness or harassment (especially when so much was directed at women). I also for the record would have voted for him despite not believing in socialism. My point being that my vote doesn’t mean an across the board support for everything he stands for. Parts of his platform and approach I don’t agree with at all. Part of me would have just been voting for certain issues and part of me would have been voting against the other side

 

[vegan cro spirit 333]

Nope I've been a twat for a long time so no offence taken, not a left wing twat though.
The Guardian is far from left wing, that would be the Morning Star your thinking of.

Your responses suggest to me however that your probably more at home gazing lovingly at some pictures and grunt noises from your role model Mr Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

the guardian is not a left wing loon rag? WtF??
i suppose you think skinny is a brilliant funguist as well
an expert on non fungi fungi as well as fungi fungus

the guardian is nothing but unemployed left wing loon twats working for a snack

this c*** at the record store is probably a nazi sympathizer, thats what they did
back in the day, boycott stuff that is pro israel like moz music.

 

[Anonymous]

Exactly what I thought when I saw the Bowie picture up on the back wall. People do like to pick and choose what they find offensive according with what the rest do.. Always have. Tit.

Not only did Bowie have a pro-fascist period, he also had sex with an underage lori Mattix/Lori Maddox. As did Jimmy Page and Mick Jagger: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Mattix

 

[Morrissey's left nut]

All this talk about the looney left, and here on Morrissey solo only the loonies are left. Sensible folks fled the scene some time ago. I guess that's how people grow up.

 

[vegan cro spirit 333]

All this talk about the looney left, and here on Morrissey solo only the loonies are left. Sensible folks fled the scene some time ago. I guess that's how people grow up.

if you hate moz and his 'negativity' and decide to give him up and never have anything do with him again, only to end up at the MOZ FORUM, you are pretty much a certifiable LEFT WING LOON>
you are deserving of a left wing loon pin.

 

[ordinaryboy86]

That's a fair point - and as I'm sure you know, no other musicians are publicly backing either For Britain or the Brexit Party. So Morrissey's very much on his own, here.

But I still think this banning of artists for certain criteria is very, very slippery. Does the shop stock any XTC records? (Andy Partridge spouts some hardcore Holocaust related stuff on Twitter.) What about Primal Scream, after Bobby G's Madonna-related tantrum of the other day? Where do you draw the line, here?

Having said that, I just read an in-depth interview/article about Ashli Todd and she comes across as a sane and good-hearted human being. But I still think this is a cheap stunt on her part!

Ah, nuances nuances.

I’m not being ignorant here but I really don’t keep up with those artists, but are they merely causing offence to their subjects, or are the inciting hate on a mass scale? That’s where the difference lies, at least for me anyway. We can be offended all we want by distasteful comments about the holocaust, or Bowie shagging a minor, or Spector committing murder, you could go through every artist with a fine tooth comb and she might aswell shut up shop, ban the Beatles too, they were probably on LSD when they wrote half their albums, is that questionable and potentially offensive behaviour too? I’m sure to some people it is. But do any of those offences I’ve just mentioned incite hate? Who gets the stick when Bowie shags a kid? Bowie gets it. Who gets the stick when For Britain & Tommy Robinson recruit new knuckle dragging followers? Some innocent bystander at a bus stop that’s done absolutely nothing wrong. That’s why she’s banned Morrissey, she doesn’t want no part of it, she doesn’t want the face of a far right advocater in her shop window.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

I’m not being ignorant here but I really don’t keep up with those artists, but are they merely causing offence to their subjects, or are the inciting hate on a mass scale? That’s where the difference lies, at least for me anyway. We can be offended all we want by distasteful comments about the holocaust, or Bowie shagging a minor, or Spector committing murder, you could go through every artist with a fine tooth comb and she might aswell shut up shop, ban the Beatles too, they were probably on LSD when they wrote half their albums, is that questionable and potentially offensive behaviour too? I’m sure to some people it is. But do any of those offences I’ve just mentioned incite hate? Who gets the stick when Bowie shags a kid? Bowie gets it. Who gets the stick when For Britain & Tommy Robinson recruit new knuckle dragging followers? Some innocent bystander at a bus stop that’s done absolutely nothing wrong. That’s why she’s banned Morrissey, she doesn’t want no part of it, she doesn’t want the face of a far right advocater in her shop window.

Yes but a celebrity who sleeps with a minor signals that it’s okay for others in that position of power to sleep with minors therefore hurting not just one minor. It’s not an isolated incident.

 

[ordinaryboy86]

Yes but a celebrity who sleeps with a minor signals that it’s okay for others in that position of power to sleep with minors therefore hurting not just one minor. It’s not an isolated incident.

It’s really not the same as campaigning for it. Unless Bowie wore a “have sex with minors” badge on his last tour, it really ain’t the same.

 

[Anonymous]

I’m not being ignorant here but I really don’t keep up with those artists, but are they merely causing offence to their subjects, or are the inciting hate on a mass scale? That’s where the difference lies, at least for me anyway. We can be offended all we want by distasteful comments about the holocaust, or Bowie shagging a minor, or Spector committing murder, you could go through every artist with a fine tooth comb and she might aswell shut up shop, ban the Beatles too, they were probably on LSD when they wrote half their albums, is that questionable and potentially offensive behaviour too? I’m sure to some people it is. But do any of those offences I’ve just mentioned incite hate? Who gets the stick when Bowie shags a kid? Bowie gets it. Who gets the stick when For Britain & Tommy Robinson recruit new knuckle dragging followers? Some innocent bystander at a bus stop that’s done absolutely nothing wrong. That’s why she’s banned Morrissey, she doesn’t want no part of it, she doesn’t want the face of a far right advocater in her shop window.

I think many people would say that gangster rap has perpetuated and inspired many people to join gangs sell drugs and commit violent crimes. Also the argument would and has been made that getting away with and brushing off instances of sex with minors normalizes the crime and contributes to reduced action towards the issue which is prevalent and wide spread. Christians many of whom vote believe that underage sex is ok as long as the raper marries the child. This happens all over the us though mostly the south. Look up the stats on child marriage in the us. I’d say we should ban Christianity (a joke) but then I might perplexingly get called a racist