nicky wire's legs
all is vanity
oh i didnt know that! thanks for telling me!! the more i hear about this lorca guy the more i think he's my kinda writer
The two greatest lyricists Morrissey and Bob Dylan, discuss
- Thread starter ZOOM FROM GLOOM
- Start date
ZOOM FROM GLOOM
New Membrane
get a copy of Poet in New York, my favorite of his works.
“…en Nueva York (published 1940; Poet in New York), a series of poems whose dense, at times hallucinatory images, free-verse lines, and thematic preoccupation with urban decay and social injustice mark an audacious departure from Lorca’s previous work. The collection is redolent of Charles Baudelaire, Edgar Allan Poe, T.S. Eliot,…”
Poet in New York | work by García Lorca
Other articles where Poet in New York is discussed: Federico García Lorca: Later poetry and plays of Federico García Lorca: …en Nueva York (published 1940; Poet in New York), a series of poems whose dense, at times hallucinatory images, free-verse lines, and thematic preoccupation with urban...
www.britannica.com
The New York dawn has
four columns of mud
and a hurricane of black doves
that paddle in putrescent waters.
The New York dawn grieves
along the immense stairways,
seeking amidst the groins
spikenards of fine-drawn anguish.
The dawn comes and no one receives it in his mouth,
for there no morn or hope is possible.
Occasionally, coins in furious swarms
perforate and devour abandoned children.
The first to come out understand in their bones
that there will be no paradise nor amours stripped of leaves:
they know they are going to the mud of figures and laws,
to artless games, to fruitless sweat.
The light is buried under chains and noises
in impudent challenge of rootless science.
Throught the suburbs sleepless people stagger,
as though just delivered from a shipwreck of blood.
ZOOM FROM GLOOM
New Membrane
No.
I’m saying to different degrees Morrissey and Dylan have had the greatest impact on lyric writers.
1. For the first time in popular music they brought something new to the table that was uniquely theirs.
2. Besides their distinct delivery and maybe also because of their distinct
deliveries and unique presence, their lyric has influenced other lyric writers.
As I’ve already said, there are many many good lyric writers, great ones too !
But the greatest lyric writers as far as influence goes, are Morrissey and Bob Dylan.
That’s not to say other lyricists can’t be enjoyed and loved or influence other writers also, but these other lyric writers were most likely directly or indirectly influenced by Dylan or Morrissey.
So, what do you folks think ?
ThePoliticalRevolution
On Timeout
I am taking @ketaminesun's computer for Christmas.
ZOOM FROM GLOOM
New Membrane
Toward An Understanding Of Leonard Cohen's Take This Waltz - AllanShowalter.com
Notes On And Recommended Analyses Of Take This Waltz The publication of The Unrealized Potential of Cohen’s Take This Waltz in The Gin Game aroused interest about the song itself. Now, in my personal editionContinue reading
allanshowalter.com
ThePoliticalRevolution
On Timeout
Taking it to the mall.
ThePoliticalRevolution
On Timeout
Have a shower, and i'll take you to the ball.It was hoping the ball.
ZOOM FROM GLOOM
New Membrane
But I thought you liked dirty dancing?
ZOOM FROM GLOOM
New Membrane
I love love love Cohen! and definitely prefer him over Dylan any day.
But I still say that Dylan and Morrissey are the greatest lyricists because they have made a larger impact on lyric writers (directly or indirectly) that’s not to say that these or any lyric writers to come don’t also have other influences.
What’s your favorite Cohen song or songs?
Surface
Chilling in Cheshire.
Can you name any lyricists that Morrissey has had an impact on as I genuinely can't think of many who mention him as an influence?
T
Trans
Guest
Colin meloy has for sure been influenced by morrissey. Not many modern musicians really talk very specifically about there lyrics which is I think a shame
sea salt
Always summer, always alone, the fruit always ripe
It has got to be Famous Blue Raincoat. Or maybe The Stranger Song. Impossible to decide.
Anyway, Brett Anderson was definitely influenced by Morrissey.
nicky wire's legs
all is vanity
sounds great! i love baudelaire ("be beautiful and be sad") and ts eliot! and also discovering new poets! i will put that one on my list, for sure!!get a copy of Poet in New York, my favorite of his works.
“…en Nueva York (published 1940; Poet in New York), a series of poems whose dense, at times hallucinatory images, free-verse lines, and thematic preoccupation with urban decay and social injustice mark an audacious departure from Lorca’s previous work. The collection is redolent of Charles Baudelaire, Edgar Allan Poe, T.S. Eliot,…”
Poet in New York | work by García Lorca
Other articles where Poet in New York is discussed: Federico García Lorca: Later poetry and plays of Federico García Lorca: …en Nueva York (published 1940; Poet in New York), a series of poems whose dense, at times hallucinatory images, free-verse lines, and thematic preoccupation with urban...www.britannica.com
The New York dawn has
four columns of mud
and a hurricane of black doves
that paddle in putrescent waters.
The New York dawn grieves
along the immense stairways,
seeking amidst the groins
spikenards of fine-drawn anguish.
The dawn comes and no one receives it in his mouth,
for there no morn or hope is possible.
Occasionally, coins in furious swarms
perforate and devour abandoned children.
The first to come out understand in their bones
that there will be no paradise nor amours stripped of leaves:
they know they are going to the mud of figures and laws,
to artless games, to fruitless sweat.
The light is buried under chains and noises
in impudent challenge of rootless science.
Throught the suburbs sleepless people stagger,
as though just delivered from a shipwreck of blood.
nicky wire's legs
all is vanity
famous blue raincoat is defo in my top five!!!!!
I hear that you're building your little house deep in the desert
You're living for nothing now, I hope you're keeping some kind of record
<3
That’s right, and also Matt Berninger from the National, I think (at least in the good old days).
And can we add Kirsty MacColl to the list?
T
Trans
Guest
I’m assuming the sundays should be in there as well
ZOOM FROM GLOOM
New Membrane
Yes all these folks were influenced by Morrissey.
Directly and indirectly. I mean, some artists may even proudly claim to not even own a record of his, but most likely they were or are being influenced by an artist that is directly influenced by Morrissey.
And this is one of the reasons Morrissey is one of the greatest lyricists, as is Dylan.
Bob dylan is unquestionably a better lyricist,over the years his range is incredible taking in folk,county,rock n roll and gospel.Bob Dylan is one of those people I immediately buy their music as I believe every thing they do has merit.Of course Morrissey is another favourite of mine as well as Paul Weller, Neil Young,Tom Waits and many more.
A
Anonymous
Guest
I don't think art works that way, Ketamine.
Putting Morrissey up there with Dylan is like putting Damien Hirst up there with Picasso.
Similar threads
