I love, love, love them. When I lived in California, I saw them all of the last few times they played, and they are amazing live too. I would say they write some of the catchiest songs as well. Born To Quit and Destination Failure are absolute gems, and Get Fired is good too, but I like those other two better. First heard of them when I read an interview with them in an issue of the Morri'zine I think it was, and then finally saw them when they opened for Moz in 97', and liked them ever since. "Pretty Pathetic" also happens to be one of my favorite tracks, by anyone, ever. And can you ever really get tired of hearing "Need You Around?" I don't think it's actually possible.